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GoodLife 06-19-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1787407)
I beg to differ. Infections grow exponentially. It isn’t much at first, but then gradually grows and then seems to explode. Snowballing...

However, I’m willing to change my mind if you can share logic that shows me I’m wrong.

Taking Dade county as an example, new cases per day for a week or so before June 12 were averaging about 250 per day, not going up or down. Then June 12 huge spike of 570 new cases. That's an increase of well over 100% in one day. No gradual growth beforehand. Something caused this and I don 't think it is reopening. Also, Dade and other South Florida counties have been under tighter restrictions than the rest of Florida. Protests in Miami began on May 31 and continue, some of the largest were on
June 6 and 7. One week before the huge spike. Average time from exposure to symptoms is 5-6 days.

Take Sumter County for example, no protests, no spike. Only 4 new cases since June 10. If spikes are due to reopening why no spike in Sumter? Lake County was cruising along with 3-10 new cases per day and then gets 62 on June 12. They had protests in Clermont a week earlier.

I looked at a lot of Florida Counties and saw the same thing. Big protests = big spike Small protests = small spike. No protests = no spike.

I am sure some new cases come from reopening, but reopening does not explain these spikes we are seeing. Otherwise we should see similar 100% spikes in all Florida counties not just the ones that had protests.

Saluce 06-19-2020 07:16 AM

The cause Of the rise could also be from all the protesting/riots, since that is were it appears the numbers have risen. You know when COVID-19 was hardly mentioned.

Dana1963 06-19-2020 07:21 AM

Protests
 
If Protests were the issue all states would be increasing.We here in central Florida are still getting people infected by not socially distancing and hygiene or failing to wear a mask to minimize exposure.
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1787059)
70% of the this record new high of cases come from just 7 counties, Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Lee, Hillsborough, Orange, and Duval. The same places where the largest George Floyd protests have taken place.

Counties like Sumter with no large protests = 4 new cases in last week. No big spikes in places without protests.


allus70 06-19-2020 07:22 AM

NY now has one of the lowest infection rates in the country.
Florida has one of the highest.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo considers 14-day quarantine for Florida visitors | wgrz.com

GoodLife 06-19-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saluce (Post 1787468)
The cause Of the rise could also be from all the protesting/riots, since that is were it appears the numbers have risen. You know when COVID-19 was hardly mentioned.

Neat trick isn't it. Encourage giant protests during a highly contagious pandemic and then blame the spike on reopening. Meanwhile make sure there's no fans at golf tournaments, no funerals, severely limit church activities and keep a straight face while doing so.

Keysers 06-19-2020 07:24 AM

I too believe we could see an explosion similar to New York but I hope I am wrong. I think smart, cautious reopening is possible but it does not seem to be happening. Too many people either think this is behind us or they accept the death rate..

kenoc7 06-19-2020 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1787432)
How long will it last here?

Some friends ventured out for dinner at an outside table at Cane Garden earlier this week. They made sure to wear masks while being escorted to their table outside. But while walking past the bar they reported it was two-deep all around, noisy, animated, not one person with a mask, just like the old normal.

Isn’t the “rule” in Villages facilities “mask and distancing”? It won’t be normal for either Cane Garden patrons or it’s restaurant-bar for very long. It was our favorite, but with this report we’re not tempted to venture back again very soon.

From The Villages Weekly Bulletin

Vulnerable Populations:
Individuals older than 65 years of age and individuals with a serious underlying medical condition (such as chronic lung disease, moderate-to-severe asthma, serious heart conditions, immune-compromised status, cancer, diabetes, severe obesity, renal failure and liver disease) should continue to stay at home. When leaving the home, these individuals should follow social distancing and other general mitigation guidance. Those living with vulnerable individuals should be aware of the exposure risk that they could carry the virus back home

GoodLife 06-19-2020 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by allus70 (Post 1787476)
NY now has one of the lowest infection rates in the country.
Florida has one of the highest.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo considers 14-day quarantine for Florida visitors | wgrz.com

Yes New York is a real success story with almost 400,000 cases and 31,000 deaths.

Epidemiologists have also proved that New York City citizens fleeing the outbreak there seeded up to 80% of the cases in the USA. Good Job!!

theruizs 06-19-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1787028)
Did you read this morning's article from Europe that says genetics may have much to play in some people who have more serious cases, such as having type A blood? I know that some say that more people get it in poor areas and blame lack of good health care but it could be connected to genetics.

You’re not implying that being poor is a genetic issue though, right?

theruizs 06-19-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1787477)
Neat trick isn't it. Encourage giant protests during a highly contagious pandemic and then blame the spike on reopening. Meanwhile make sure there's no fans at golf tournaments, no funerals, severely limit church activities and keep a straight face while doing so.

What would be the point of doing this on purpose? If so, it is not a very neat trick at all. I fail to see who would be advantaged by this.

Kilmacowen 06-19-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DONKEY10 (Post 1787400)
Of course it's genetics. Why are so many asymptomatic and some very sick.

Most likely the immune system, and in better health.

GoodLife 06-19-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1787524)
What would be the point of doing this on purpose? If so, it is not a very neat trick at all. I fail to see who would be advantaged by this.

It would violate site rules to explain it completely. We know that a large percentage of the media leans one way. We know there is an election in November. Persuading the country that most of us are racists and that police brutality is a huge problem might motivate certain demographics. Also, attempting to promote the idea that reopening is dangerous is one way of keeping the economy in a depressed state.

Kilmacowen 06-19-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1787537)
It would violate site rules to explain it completely. We know that a large percentage of the media leans one way. We know there is an election in November. Persuading the country that most of us are racists and that police brutality is a huge problem might motivate certain demographics. Also, attempting to promote the idea that reopening is dangerous is one way of keeping the economy in a depressed state.

What about other countries that are experiencing spikes. And Dr Fauci warnings. Are they all involved in your conspiracy theory?

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-19-2020 08:31 AM

Oh yes let’s just blame the protesters, God is punishing them just like he did aids patients in the 80’s , let’s not take into consideration that they have started to test more or the fact that our governor shut down to late and opened to early , yes the protest will cause some more cases , but also the fact is people who live in denser areas are going to have more cases . Before you point fingers , just look around villages and see that people aren’t doing what they should , I’ve been to a few restaurants but the outside bars are a mess,and do yourself a favor at least put your mask on if you go into a restaurant or public bathroom, it’s a close space and people from everywhere are going to be tight on top of you

Dana1963 06-19-2020 08:34 AM

Wearing a mask is NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT!


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