Turning a back on reality.... :coolsmiley:


Brother, I don't need to research, I come from the area and have seen what goes on.. :ohdear:

Hasta La Vista Amigo! :ho:

They tested a small sample of the protesters, not every protester. If every one of the millions who have protested how many positives would that 1.8% rate generate?

And how many did those positive protesters infect before getting tested?

16 women getting infected in a Jacksonville eatery is a spit in the bucket and you conclude that this proves protests are not a major component of the uptick?

Maybe one of the 7 waiters and bartenders who also tested positive was a super spreader. That happened on June 6, there were protests in Jacksonville May 30 and 31. Maybe one or more of those waiters and bartenders went to the protests.

And then those New Yorkers went around the country seeding the virus everywhere. So what exactly should the other States have done. Seal their borders in violation of the Constitution?

I personally feel that we need to discourage those outside of TV, that have not been sheltering in place, PLEASE DON'T COME VISIT. Also, all Villages people limit outings, maintain social distancing, and wear masks. That's the way we will keep our town safer from COVID 19 (IMHO)

Not true-Finland has minimum cases.

Not even close to being true.

And that colored all future thoughts about maybe(?) the V.A overall is a good organization. If it was so bad there would not be a NEED for a VA in the Villages.

1 indoor = bad outcome----2 outdoor = a little bit bad outcome.

Exactamento!

I think you may have meant to say an OUTDOOR gathering...........

Nope.

Satire.

It's obvious, that an indoor gathering without masks (like the ladies in Jax)...is much more dangerous than an outdoor gathering. :ho:

Having universal healthcare has nothing to do with the number of cases but it has a huge impact on the healthcare provided to those who contract Covid. There were massive outbreaks in Italy, Spain and Sweden, all with universal healthcare. Yet these countries had to resort to choosing who was to live and who was to die because of a healthcare system that could not cope with it. Yet, NYC, which had an even bigger outbreak had plenty of ventilators and hospital beds.

While progressives like to paint universal healthcare as a human right and an act of compassion, I urge anyone who may think along these lines to watch this Youtube of how universal healthcare in Sweden is dealing with Covid. As a summary, the government is not allowing anyone over 80 or anyone over 60 with comorbidities to go to the hospital. Instead, they are sent to the equivalent of hospices where they are are deprived of oxygen supplements and instead given drugs that eases the discomfort but which almost certainly guarantees death - in other words, it is government mandated euthanasia. Very compassionate, eh?

Of course, Governor Cuomo has his own cross to bear for the way he treated nursing home patients, but that has nothing to do with universal healthcare.

YouTube

they can't get the 'same' because some can't afford the major plans, of which the aca was. i hear many say medicare for all, but medicare isn't free & i'm not sure how many people actually know that. those who cant afford get medicaid.

Since this topic is primarily one of Covid which had a reference to universal healthcare as a better way of dealing with Covid, it seems appropriate to point out countries which have universal healthcare in which the healthcare system failed miserably. It also seems appropriate to show by contrast how the US healthcare system does not have the same limitations in terms of resources such that we had to resort to euthanasia in order to deal with the crisis. As to every US citizen having access to the same health care, can you provide any documentation that shows that a person in the US who showed up at a hospital with Covid was denied treatment?

To put it another way, would you rather be a poor 80 year old person with Covid in the US or a middle class 80 year old person with Covid in Sweden? That's what universal healthcare in Sweden has given their citizens.