Not sure but I don't recall CNN having to pay 787 million dollars for "fake news". Just saying. If they dropped the charges it pretty much means they can't prove their case as it stands. Law suits to follow.

The gun experts have said that it could have fired without the trigger being pulled. That is why the prosecutors dropped the case against Alec Baldwin but now have to investigate as to who and why the gun was modified.

Sorry, as someone who has been shooting guns for the last 50 years, including IPSC competition pistol, if the hammer is not pulled back, there’s no way that gun will fire. It’s a single action.
Regardless, I’ve been taught since the age of 10 you never point a gun at anything or handle it without checking to see if it’s empty or loaded.

Never heard of manslaughter?

There is truly one person to blame.
 

If he pulled the trigger or not should not matter and I said in an earlier post, I would not be surprised if the cinematographer told him where to point the gun to get the visual, she wanted. Movie companies do not hire armorers because they want someone who knows about guns, if that was the case, they could hire a gangbanger to do the job for less. They hire a professional who understand safety protocol for insurance purposes. The production has to take 5% of the blame for either not hiring someone with a better resume or for overworking her. The armorer is the one that has to accept 95% of the blame.

1. No one should have any access to any firearm besides herself.
2. To allow any live ammunition anywhere near a set was irresponsible.
3. At one point she claimed she was overworked; at that point you hire an assistant, or you quit.

As far as actors, I don't know what true knowledge Mr. Baldwin has, but I've worked with some stars that didn't know their right from their left and were handed a gun on set.

Until you work on a movie set, you will not grasp that this is a place waiting for an accident to happen.

And Aliens could have come down in a UAP and pulled the trigger……. But logic says, “He pulled the trigger!”

Aliens?

They will be doing more tests on the weapon involved in the death and injury.

Baldwin was cleared in the shooting or something like that despite having a lot going against him.

The FBI examined the gun very carefully and said the trigger had to be pulled for that gun to fire.

That does not sound accurate. Baldwin would still be on the hook if it were true.

I do like Alec Baldwin's work but know very little about his character. I do know some Hollywood or other place stars are spoiled rotten brats with no real regard for other people.

My Dad worked insurance claims made by the rich-and-famous sometimes when we lived in Reno, NV; Scottsdale, AZ and Rohnert Park, CA. He did a lot of other stuff too.

Anyone that knows anything about a fire arm knows you check to see if it’s loaded my opinion

Alec Baldwin is a star with connections. Surprised there were any charges.

If he sues he will collect. It's the American way.

Checking is for the little people.

Trial by public opinion
 

I think most could agree that Baldwin isn’t a very likable guy. Yet he gets his “day in court” as it should be. It’s a shame that certain political figures don’t get the same unbiased justice.

I thought that was taxes.

Those connections often mean nothing in a place like where the movie Rust was being filmed.

Not seeing your point since Baldwin is now the victim, according to the "law" in this case.

"Rust" was being filmed in New Mexico which has courted the film, movie, entertainment industry since Bill Richardson was governor. The state provides a multitude of incentives to the industry, at great cost to its citizens. Many question if the industry is actually costing the state rather than paying off. The heavyweights in the industry including its so-called stars carry great influence.

Q&A: Bill Richardson – The Hollywood Reporter

"As the film industry expands in the Southwest, New Mexico leads the region as top destination thanks to competitive incentive and infrastructure programs."

Forging the Future of Filmmaking in New Mexico - Entertainment Partners

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – Netflix is quickly working to expand its relatively new studio in Albuquerque.

“This is going to be their main production facility in North America,” said Alicia Keyes, New Mexico Economic Development cabinet secretary.

From: Netflix plans to expand studios in Albuquerque - KOB.com

So somebody said. Did you or anybody see the actual FBI analysis report? Just saying..

It is a single action revolver. Its hammer can be fanned to fire it.

"The actor originally said he had pulled the hammer of the gun back as far as he could and released it but did not pull the trigger."

"Leading up to the decision to drop the charges, the prosecution has dealt with a number of issues. Originally, Baldwin had been hit with a firearms enhancement that carried a five-year minimum prison sentence. The charge was removed after Baldwin's legal team argued it was "unconstitutional." The enhancement had not been part of New Mexico law at the time the shooting took place.

Later, the original special prosecutor was removed, and District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies stepped down. Baldwin's lawyer argued Rep. Andrea Reeb could not simultaneously serve as the special prosecutor and as a member of the New Mexico House of Representatives."

Alec Baldwin'''s criminal charges for fatal '''Rust''' shooting to be dropped: lawyers | Fox News

The original prosecutors were dismissed and replaced. My oh my I wonder why?

For that type of gun, you MUST pull the hammer back to cock the gun before it can be fired. The act of cocking a gun and pointing it at someone in my opinion is negligent to start with. It's one thing to point a weapon at someone (which is wrong in the first place), but it is a whole different level when you cock the gun first (preparing to fire it) and then point it at someone. This didn't happen during filming so why would you even do that in the first place? Everyone knows or should know that the first rule of gun safety is that you never point a gun at anything that don't wish to destroy (or some would say unless you intend to shoot it).

That sounds logical, but it's not. Many times, we have to rely on others to do their job. The armorer's job was to make sure the firearms were safe, secure, and bought to the set unloaded when needed. It's obvious none of these were met. I don't kick the tires before I get on a plane, smell the breath of my uber driver to make sure he was not drinking. Baldwin like many actors, are more worried if their hair, make-up, wardrobe is looking good and of course their lines which most of them blow over and over. I've seen many accidents on sets, none have resulted in death. Let's be honest if the actor was John Doe, it would barely have been a blip on the news. Look the industry pushes the envelope to satisfy the audience and have a time limit to get it in the can. That's the real problem here.

"Jostling it"... Bwahahaha!

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I can't handle the truth? Methinks you're responding to the wrong person...

Precisely!

Apparently, they were using the same weapons after hours for target practice...

Incredibly stupid...

Negligent homicide is a thing... Does not require "intent"...

Nonsense. The article you posted said no such thing...

Er... You might have missed my sarcasm a lil bit...

Vicious?

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Name one person who suggested he did it deliberately... I'll wait...

No, there is no question as to whether he pulled the trigger.

It has just been opined that because the gun had been worked on since it left the factory (a very common occurrence), that it would be difficult to prove in a court of law...

And even though it was a movie set, they still use REAL GUNS. They just use "blanks", which require a functioning gun in order to fire...

Nothing like playing "cops and robbers"...

Exactly. This "trigger was modified" nonsense is nothing but a red herring.

Guns are modified all the time. Parts wear out, so they are replaced.

And yes, with a single action revolver, it is possible for the gun to fire if you pull the hammer back "almost" all the way, before you set the trigger, and then let it go. It'll drop on the primer, firing the round.

That is "user error"...

Does the name "Nick Sandman" ring a bell?

No they didn't... I'll give you if the gun was dropped, there is a slight possibility. But there is NO EVIDENCE that that happened...

The "gun modification" angle is BS and since Baldwin was screwing around with the gun (he admitted to practicing has "cross draw"), he most likely pulled back the hammer part way and dropped the hammer on the primer...

Guns just don't "go off" unless something stupid is being done with them...

Then prepare to be surprised... Baldwin admitted practicing "cross draw" while sitting there. They were not rehearsing a scene, nor filming...

I'll accept all of that (even though some of it is speculation), but none of it really matters.

No, a judge said they would have a hard time proving their case.

Completely different from "being cleared"...

Nope. Your latest excuse, "But the gun was modified" muddied the waters (even though it doesn't matter to anyone who knows anything about firearms). But it WILL matter to in ignorant jury...

Oh shush with your logic and reason... :icon_wink:

Looks like he won't be getting his day in court...

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