The ONLY way the gun can fire is if the hammer strikes the firing pin or some old ones have the firing pin on the hammer. If the trigger has been modified, YES the gun can fire without pulling the trigger. BUT, only if the hammer is first pulled back. Single action revolvers ALWAYS have to have the hammer pulled back manually.
He may not "intended" to kill or shoot anyone, but he DID shoot and kill someone. That is manslaughter. He still took a life and must stand trial. The manslaughter was NOT justified, although it may be deemed accidental, such as someone accidentally running over a child when backing out of their driveway. I have seen no reports that he "intended" to end a life or even injure someone. Regardless, by ALL accounts he was negligent and there might be a charge of "negligent homicide" or "negligent manslaughter" depending on the local statute. The gun did not aim itself at the victim and certainly did not arm itself. The gun did not go off while laying on a table. It was handled by AB and it fired, regardless of intent.

nope not directed at you. Just a launch site posting.
Like the way you post. In my neighborhood we would of called you " machine gun "

And WHO brought a live round onto the set.

Police automatics are NOT single-action, but the Sig Sauer has been going off and shooting fellow Police Officers. Many incidents recently. So, if a modern expensive pistol can fire off unexpectedly (maybe from some bump) then an older single action with lesser metallurgy could fire off from a bump and possibly with the hammer down, but definitely with the hammer cocked.
.....But, most likely the actor had his finger on the trigger as he pulled back the hammer.

with all your experience, may i ask if you have ever worked with a modified weapon, & if so, what was the modification & why?

i think this would be the key argument. had there been NO live rounds, circumstances MAY have been different. yet on the other hand, i've heard blanks can hurt people as well. :shrug:

Can't remember if it was mentioned on TOTV or I read it somewhere, but didn't the crew/actors shoot at tin cans and other targets when filming was done for the day?
If they did, that was probably where the mixed ammo came about.

talk about reckless! a recipe for disaster

275 Million asked for but no account of what they settled for. Dan Rather was fired for his report on Bush......other than Lou Dobbs seems that Tucker and company are still working.......just saying

Yeah, but I always "pull the trigger" when I post... :pepper2:

The Sigs were primarily fired when dropped or when holstered, leading one to believe their cover garment or a worn leather holster got caught on the trigger.

It almost happened to me when I took my concealed carry class. I was having trouble re-holstering my weapon. The instructor noticed my shirt tail was getting jammed into the holster when I tried to re-holster the gun. He taught me to maek sure I swept by shirt back to clear the opening of the holster.

There have also been cases when an old, worn holster folded over at the opening, catching the trigger as the gun was inserted...

Neither had anything to do with the Baldwin case, unless he was re-holstering the gun with the trigger cocked back... A major no-no...

And there is no such thing as a "Police automatic"...

Brandon Lee and Jon-Erik Hexum were killed when using blanks...

Correct. I read the same thing...

FOX News hasn't paid a dime yet... Just saying...

People modify weapons all the time.

For instance, the carry guns carried by the NYPD have a 12 lb trigger pull (it takes 12 pounds of pressure to pull the trigger). The manufacturer recommends a 5 lb pull.

A heavier pull makes the gun much less accurate. It may be one reasin why NYPD officers have shuch a low rate of hitting their target...

I've added ambidextrous slide releases and magazine releases to my guns (I'm a lefty), I've had trigger work done to improve the feel of the trigger.

I've changed out the stocks on rifles to fit my body better.

Nothing odd about it...

Considering it was someone else's responsibility to do this, and considering that live ammunition was not supposed to be on the site and that it was someone else's responsibility to ensure this, and considering it is not common practice to hand someone a loaded gun with live ammunition on a movie site, I don't see how in any way, shape, or form you can find Baldwin responsible, unless you have no idea of ethical behavior. This is a unique and extraordinary situation that may have never happened before, and certainly not actually shooting someone.

And negligent homicide itself only happens when there is violence like a fist fight with no intent to kill someone but the violence ends up killing someone not an accident like this. Why are people so intent on incriminating an innocent person because he's a celebrity they don't like?

I was confused, but the reason FOX agreed to pay was because not only did they realize they were going to lose but that it would expose their lying and deceitful behavior to the public who would lose faith in their news reporting.

This seems to be in the wrong thread, however.

Ethical behavior is checking to make sure your firearm is SAFE before pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger...

As I said before, if the scene required him to play "Russian Roulette", do you think he would "just take someone's word" that the gun was safe, or would he check for himself?

First of all, you couldn't be more wrong about what constitutes "negligent homicide"... I suggest you Google the definition...

Second of all, I don't give a rat's patootie about Alec Baldwin...

Third of all, YOU saying he's innocent means nothing...

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Ever hear the phrase, "Cheaper to keep her"?

Sometimes it's actually cheaper to settle than go thru a trial... Happens all the time...

cheap was not the desired outcome. Fox could have appealed up to sc. Brand protection was the goal as it should be

Agreed. :bigbow:

Agree on all counts. Amazing the know-it-alls on TOTV who know everything about everything!

As a director myself, I’ve directed many episodes of television and was a script supervisor for 30 years before that. I’m not retired and still direct. I just directed the Flash and have directed show such as Blue Bloods, Vampire Diaries and worked on Dexter, Entourage, The OC, and many other shows. There’s a very strict protocol when it comes to guns on set. The Armorer or prop master is in charge of all guns. The guns should never be in public and the only person who can get them is Armorer or prop person. Then the 1st Assistant Director must look into every chamber as the armorer turns it to show there’s nothing inside. At that point, the 1st AD calls out ‘cold gun’ at which point, he hands it over to the actor. There was a movie called The Crow, where an actor shot Brandon Lee (Bruce Lees son) with a blank, and killed him. That’s when the safety protocol went in place. That armorer was fired off a movie with Nick Cage months earlier for guns going off accidentally on set. I don’t like or dislike Alec Baldwin but there’s just now way he’s to blame when there are clear union jobs and armorer and 1st AD are the ones in charge of gun safety. As for the producer title. It’s a title. Almost every actor gets a producing title these days. As do all the writers. The only real producers are the Line Producer and the show runner.

Agree on almost all counts...

They weren't filming and Baldwin was screwing around with the gun...

What makes that even more interesting is, I’ve never in my life been on a show where they’ve used an actual gun for rehearsal. That gun is supposed to be rubber and it’s a big deal when a real gun is on set. They call a safety meeting before the gun leaves the hand of the armorer. Or at least that’s what’s supposed to happen. BUT the bigger question is how did live ammo get on the set and inside that gun??? I choose my blank loads on every job I have with a gun. 1/4 loads up to full loads. I’m shocked at how many balls were dropped. Including on Alecs part and the director. But only on Alecs part as an Actor, not a producer. Maybe this will make Actors stop asking for producer credits. It’s just a lame title that means nothing in the end. On Vampire Diaries 2 actors had producer credits but neither one were actual “producers” if that make sense. I was a producer on Vampire Diaries too but again, mine was a nothing title just to keep me around for the later seasons. As an actor though, he should’ve known better but he’s certainly not to blame. It’s the armorer and 1st AD but also the line producer, who didn’t listen to concerns and I believe they had guns go off accidentally earlier on that set. The camera crew walked off the day before due to safety issues. That line producer should’ve shut things down or done something earlier. Too many people dropping balls. I mean sadly, the DP should’ve said something about the gun situation too. They have lot of say on a set. They’re the most respected person besides the director. The whole thing is a sad situation for everyone. I don’t know if you’re familiar with he Sarah Jones death but that was also sad and the director got put in prison for it. As he should have. The Line Producer and 1st AD also got charged
”Midnight Rider” filmmakers charged with involuntary manslaughter in Sarah Jones death – Boston Herald

If it were you or I we would be in prison already. I have been following the Legal Opinion issues in this case and they all agree it was second degree manslaughter (non-intentional). That is a crime.

Yet Michale Massee walks a free man to this day after shooting and killing actor Brandon Lee on a film set with a prop gun. Perhaps, they looked at the filming rules and safety protocols, who’s responsible for guns on set and realized they didn’t have a case?

That prop gun had the correct blank cartridge in the chamber. Unfortunately, there was a fragment of a fake "real looking" cartridge left in the chamber from a previous shot, where they needed to "see' the bullet...

That was what was propelled out of the barrel, killing Lee...

Even if the shooter had checked the chamber, he would have seen the proper "blank" round.

From what I've read, they weren't in actual "rehearsal".

Yes, they were on set, but they were not rehearsing. Baldwin was sitting on set, "practicing" his cross draw. They were NOT rehearsing a scene...