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Kilmacowen 11-24-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rrowe1234 (Post 1865030)
My dr says vit D, vitC,zinc, and Quercetin will help build immune system to fight Covid

Anyone that gets 10 minutes of sun per day gets enough vitamin D. It cannot be stored. As for quercetin , the quack my pillow guy was pushing that potentially dangerous drug.

coffeebean 11-24-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1864889)
The answer is simple. If your worried you may get Covid, STAY HOME AND AVOID CROWDS, order take out food, food delivery and pharmacy delivery to your door. Leave the rest of us alone, we would like to resume a normal life and are willing to take a calculated risk. PLEASE!

Normal life? I don't see our economy rebounding like it should be; just more and more shut downs across our country. I don't see sports stadiums packed with fans. I don't see Broadway shows resuming. Just think of all those actors, musicians and production staff...all out of work. I don't see cruise lines resuming their schedules; just folks itching to get on a cruise ship and enjoy a vacation from this madness. I don't see generalized in person schools open for America's children and young adults able to attend in person college classes. I don't see so many things that used to be a part of our normal lives.

Wearing a mask indoors and social distancing all the time will give us the ability to slow the spread of this virus and get us to a point that we will get back to our normal lives. Up until now, that has not happened.

Theoptimiser 11-24-2020 09:02 AM

I am sick of all the supposed “experts” and fear mongers that want to rob us of our God given freedoms. You want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don’t like being around those without masks, then stay don’t go there or stay home. We can’t continue to strangle this country with dictatorial unconstitutional requirements.

wayner1 11-24-2020 09:04 AM

face masks
 
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.

Do you think the wearing of face masks will stop the virus? I have read and heard pros and cons about wearing face masks from many so called experts. Being careful is a good idea but to be told that you must is not. less then 1% dies from this virus and I know even 1 person is 1 too many. However, this country should not turn inside out and close schools, business etc because of this virus. The serum will be available in January and hopefully that will answer all the worries. But I am sure many will not want to take the serum with worry of effects. Up to you.

kanoa1kale2 11-24-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottS (Post 1864955)
Can the admin of this page please stop all of these useless posts about masks??? Or create a special page for them? Everyday someone is beating a dead horse! Enough already! People creating these post are extremely undereducated about the topic! They haven’t changed a single persons mind one way or the other and they certainly haven’t educated a single person! Please Mr or Mrs admin stop the fear mongering posts and get back to what this page was initially intended for.

Absolutely! Close the topic like the others quickly please!:pray:

Larchap49 11-24-2020 09:08 AM

Mandatory masks
 
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.


How does Taiwan do it? Choices are wear a mask or, get beaten, go to jail, or die. Is that the government you want here? It's going in that direction but let's not hurry it along by giving government officials powers they should not have.

jbrown132 11-24-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.

It is interesting, as I recently took a trip up north to my old home state. Going into stores I did not see anyone who did not have a mask on. I went to several restaurants and again, I did not see anyone who was not wearing a mask until they were seated and who were significantly distance from other patrons. Capacity was set at 50 percent but if I had to guess each time I went out the restaurants they were probably at 30 percent. Yet COVID cases are significantly up as is hospital admittance but fatalities are down. So the question is how is the virus being spread if masks are so effective. I am not saying that you should not wear a mask. I wear mine all the time, but it is clear that something else is at play here and we really do not have all the answers as far as this virus is concerned.

Chitown 11-24-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.

As reported this morning. 11-24-2020 8:30 a.m. on ABC, Florida, 946,000 total cases, 18,000 deaths, that is 2% death rate or a 98% recovery rate. I and almost everyone I know and associate with have moved on. A very close friend who is 70 years young, his wife and their 35 year old son were tested positive last week in Chicago, 7 days later the son has no symptoms both mom and dad report sniffing running nose and a minor headache. I had it the last week of April before I moved here with very minor symptoms. I totally understand that some need to be worried and feel they need to wear a mask. And I will continue wearing my mask when in a store but the minute I exit the store the mask comes off. I do not begrudge someone if they feel they need to wear a mask. But please stop the hysteria.

Swoop 11-24-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1865013)
Agreed!!!

Why are we choosing to ignore and resist the obvious facts? Wearing a mask and respecting social distancing not only protects the wearer’s life, but more importantly the lives of those around him. It’s been proven here in the U.S. that these simple practices will slow and even stop the spread of COVID in a matter of weeks. We could flatten the curve very quickly while awaiting the arrival of the vaccine. Saving lives and avoiding a very difficult way to die is not a political issue. Why are we making it one?

“ It’s been proven here in the U.S. that these simple practices will slow and even stop the spread of COVID in a matter of weeks.”
Really?!?!?!?

Dana1963 11-24-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 1864902)
Yes. You’re correct. We can absolutely trust the numbers from a a communist country. They’ve been so honest during the whole thing. Wow....I have some swamp land to sell. Let me know if you’re interested, I’ll give you a good price!

Taiwan is considered a separate country. They are supported by the U.S. It is not Communist China. Learn some world history.

JOLIVERIO 11-24-2020 09:21 AM

You are not sick today but how do you know what the future holds. I’m sure you have been sick in the past...one day you are not sick, the next day you are sick. You sound like a person who would say I haven’t had a car accident to date so I’m not going to wear a seat belt. And COVID-19 has more illnesses and deaths in just 10 months than alcohol and smoking have in a year. Stop thinking about yourself and think of others. Is that to much to ask?

dougawhite 11-24-2020 09:21 AM

I wear a mask inside public places so I'm not shamed, but I am amazed by those who say mask-up everywhere to keep others safe from you. This means you believe you are contagious and don't want to give it to others. Now you go home after shopping or whatever and go to sleep without a mask on right next to your spouse all night. If you believed you were contagious a few hours ago then you just exposed your spouse to the virus during the night.
The lack of consistent thought by mask mandaters is why I am skeptical.

sloanst 11-24-2020 09:22 AM

Before you can make this assertion, you must show that amount of immigration to and from Taiwan versus the number of people that enter or leave Florida. Transmission of a virus is directly related to the movement of people and immigration is a big part of that number.

Larchap49 11-24-2020 09:23 AM

Hide from Covid
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1865042)
Normal life? I don't see our economy rebounding like it should be; just more and more shut downs across our country. I don't see sports stadiums packed with fans. I don't see Broadway shows resuming. Just think of all those actors, musicians and production staff...all out of work. I don't see cruise lines resuming their schedules; just folks itching to get on a cruise ship and enjoy a vacation from this madness. I don't see generalized in person schools open for America's children and young adults to attending in person college classes. I don't see so many things that used to be a part of our normal lives.

Wearing a mask indoors and social distancing all the time will give us the ability to slow the spread of this virus and get us to a point that we will get back to our normal lives. Up until now, that has not happened.

You can hide all you want. When you come out Covid will be here waiting. Because you wear a mask the virus is not going to go elsewhere. Covid is a variation of the common cold virus, has our great pharma industry ever been able to cure the common cold? Noooooo it has not, or they have been lying to us to keep the billion dollar cold remedy business going. Covid 19 will continue to mutate on its own into a seasonal flu like illness because a virus does not want to kill the host because it needs him to survive. When or if we ever come up with a successful remedy China will be waiting with the next attack. We cannot be defeated militarily but we can be defeated and the attack has started from within and without.

Swoop 11-24-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JOLIVERIO (Post 1865060)
You are not sick today but how do you know what the future holds. I’m sure you have been sick in the past...one day you are not sick, the next day you are sick. You sound like a person who would say I haven’t had a car accident to date so I’m not going to wear a seat belt. And COVID-19 has more illnesses and deaths in just 10 months than alcohol and smoking have in a year. Stop thinking about yourself and think of others. Is that to much to ask?

Another false statement!
According to the CDC
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.

JOLIVERIO 11-24-2020 09:27 AM

Keep your head in the sand. This is a world wide epidemic, so the whole world is lying about COVID-19 and the deaths and illnesses. And all the doctors and nurses are all lying. Go to the hospital and see for yourself.

jbrown132 11-24-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 1864902)
Yes. You’re correct. We can absolutely trust the numbers from a a communist country. They’ve been so honest during the whole thing. Wow....I have some swamp land to sell. Let me know if you’re interested, I’ll give you a good price!

P.S. Taiwan is not a communist country.

sail33or 11-24-2020 09:37 AM

I was in the Grocery store yesterday getting stuff for Thanksgiving.

There were 2 people ahead of me in line at the register.

The one closest to me had glasses on. Every breath they took FOGGED their glasses. I am not a scientist but doesn't that mean their breath (which could have VIRUS in it was escaping from their beloved MASK. I was breathing that air at some point. Because there are gaps between masks and face.

The person being checked out must have touched and adjusted their mask 5 times. Hands to the face, nose and eyes. They were touching their purchases before they got to the cashier. The cashier touched every single purchase. Then obviously the cashier touch MY purchases. If I am a VIRUS, did not I just go from purchaser to cashier to ME.

Yea Masks work. NOT.

Mrprez 11-24-2020 09:47 AM

The heck with Taiwan, we should be more like Tonga. They nailed it. <sarcasm for those who are sarcasm challenged>

stadalberts 11-24-2020 09:55 AM

.......for a short period of time, REALLY???

Topspinmo 11-24-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.


Taiwan island, enough said. Taiwan don’t have world traveler or islanders traveling daily all over the island. I hope you’re not snowbird and if you are? Did you quarantine for 14 days after arriving? If so you may be part of the problem infecting those of us that stay put. We have more People coming in Florida in day that Taiwan does in month or more.

Topspinmo 11-24-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1865080)
I was in the Grocery store yesterday getting stuff for Thanksgiving.

There were 2 people ahead of me in line at the register.

The one closest to me had glasses on. Every breath they took FOGGED their glasses. I am not a scientist but doesn't that mean their breath (which could have VIRUS in it was escaping from their beloved MASK. I was breathing that air at some point. Because there are gaps between masks and face.

The person being checked out must have touched and adjusted their mask 5 times. Hands to the face, nose and eyes. They were touching their purchases before they got to the cashier. The cashier touched every single purchase. Then obviously the cashier touch MY purchases. If I am a VIRUS, did not I just go from purchaser to cashier to ME.

Yea Masks work. NOT.

That’s why you stay at least 6 foot from them mask or no mask. Most problem people CAN’t stay apart in stores, on golf course, in bars, at squares, on pickleball courts, get the message here?

dboyd29 11-24-2020 10:38 AM

Here’s an idea. Why don’t you people that are willing to get up your freedoms just stay under the bed? The few of us who are not sheep want to live our lives as we see fit and not how some communist think we should live our life. It the words of Patrick Henry “give me liberty or give me death”.

graciegirl 11-24-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hardwick2112@yahoo.com (Post 1865107)
Hell No. Take personal responsibility. This is America not a democratic NE or West Coast State.

I will see that I am immunized against it as soon as the two most effective vaccines are available to ME.

Please don't politicize a health issue. There are many people who are conservative in many ways, (and with whom I agree) yet we are depending on the medical knowledge of our great scientists of the world.

jimjamuser 11-24-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864780)
The country of Taiwan (population almost 24 million) has had the virus under control from the beginning. In fact, there was not one new locally transmitted case of the virus for more than 200 days, NOT ONE! While Florida (population 21.5 million) has anywhere from 5000 - 10,000 cases every day. How does Taiwan do it? One of the main reasons is the mandatory use of masks in public.

Isn’t it time that we asked our representatives to make mask wearing mandatory in our state? Mandatory mask wearing is a small sacrifice for a short period of time in order to reduce and finally eliminate COVID-19? If the number of cases and deaths continue to increase, we may be forced to have another complete shutdown.

We don’t have to wait until the vaccines are distributed. Call our representatives and tell them that there should be a mandatory mask policy put in place immediately. The number for Gov. Ron DeSantis is 850-488-7146, for Sen. Dennis Baxley is 352-750-3133 and for Rep. Brett Hage is 352-315-4445. The phone numbers and/or email addresses for our county commissioners in Lake, Marion and Sumter can be found at the county websites.

I agree completely and we are now seeing an increase in TV Land cases. We have a choice do nothing and watch hospitalizations rise (to over-capacity) or do something - such as, wearing masks and staying 10 feet away from people not in your immediate household. It is worth doing UNTIL the vaccines are UNIVERSALLY distributed. It can't be worth spreading a DEADLY virus just to dance the YMCA for the 50th time. Priorities are needed and it is up to each INDIVIDUAL. The nanny state will NOT help us! The nanny state has walked away from THIS battlefield!

Joe V. 11-24-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1864883)
You one of those who will argue your rights with a virus or is it just that you don't give a hoot about the person next to you?

I am one who is educated enough to know that my freedoms are more important than your psychosis.

shut the front door 11-24-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1864884)
Nothing is complete protection to anything, we get up everyday and we live with numerous risks in life...did everyone just forget this? Heart attacks, strokes, flu, cancer, hit by a golf cart sorry my risks have been there and I work everyday since this started and I will NOT give up my freedom...period. If you chose to, have at it, do not impose your fears on me...show me the conspiracy? The one where I have been out everywhere and everyday and I’m fine, if one of any of these random illnesses or accidents happen, it’s called life, and I plan on continuing till that happens..and I will be more confident in my chances with CCP since the recovery rate is 99% not the case with other things...

I have to LOL at the pearl clutchers calling constitutionalists "nuts".

graciegirl 11-24-2020 11:05 AM

We all say the same thing over and over.

we all must be


Dumb as ROCKS.

RonaldJ 11-24-2020 11:06 AM

A lot of misconceptions in these replies. If I am not sick don't need face diaper. How do you know just because you don't have symptoms you are not the worst spreader of all. Just talking and breathing if 6' away won't spread virus. Fact, indoors without good ventilation virus can spread 18' and linger in air for hours. Correct, a face mask does not completely protect you. It is to protect others from those who may be carriers. Mandatory mask mandates is the only way to protect us from others that may carry the virus.

jimjamuser 11-24-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1864800)
How does Taiwan do it?

Easy. Strong border control. It's an Island. No land borders. Strict quarantines. It's not the masks.

Masks do not stop infection. They can help slow spread down and they can help reduce your exposure. It does NOT eliminate your exposure. If you are exposed while wearing a mask, you will probably have a better outcome. The fact is though, you're still exposed.

Don't take this as anti-mask. I think they can help indoors. They will not stop the pandemic.

If you want to mandate something, mandate that everyone needs to get their vitamin D level up to a healthy number. There have been many Random Controlled trials on this done so far and a healthy level of Vitamin D is associated with an 89% reduction in mortality. Hazard Ratio of .11 is ASTOUNDING and yet, here people are calling for mask mandates which, so far, have proved to be doing bupkiss. Mandates are in place in NY, NJ, CT and positive tests are still climbing.

Masks DO save lives. This is positively proven by the immediate decrease in cases (around 30%) that CITIES in Arizona like Phoenix, experienced AFTER they mandated the wearing of masks. It can be proven in the NEGATIVE by the fact that North Dakota (where masks are not often worn) has the WORLD's highest mortality rate due to COVID. It is proven by the CDCs recommendation. And recommendations by ALL respected US epidemiologists! Side note ; Dr. Atlas is merely a shill! He is neither respected nor an expert on infectious diseases. He is spreading DIS-information and propaganda designed to hurt Americans.

oldtimes 11-24-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1865140)
We all say the same thing over and over.

we all must be


Dumb as ROCKS.

Best...post...ever...

Swoop 11-24-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1865143)
Masks DO save lives. This is positively proven by the immediate decrease in cases (around 30%) that CITIES in Arizona like Phoenix, experienced AFTER they mandated the wearing of masks. It can be proven in the NEGATIVE by the fact that North Dakota (where masks are not often worn) has the WORLD's highest mortality rate due to COVID. It is proven by the CDCs recommendation. And recommendations by ALL respected US epidemiologists! Side note ; Dr. Atlas is merely a shill! He is neither respected nor an expert on infectious diseases. He is spreading DIS-information and propaganda designed to hurt Americans.

How’s that working in Pennsylvania?!?!?

Rosebud1949 11-24-2020 11:29 AM

Yes the whole country will have to do, otherwise it will not work. As we see by the explosion of positives now people WILL NOT. They think its clever to yell at shop staff and restaurant owners wanting to protect their business and staff by stating masks must be worn.

Because you do not have it ( or think you do not, is more the truth) you go "patriotic" and refuse to wear one, and quote your constitutional rights. Well we all have rights, not to have our health endangered by these people.

Everyone could go out, enjoy some time out of the house, even eat in certain places, but this will NEVER HAPPEN while these selfish folk continue to rant. Diaper faces, is that what we are called by caring for our fellow man. Bring it on.... the thought killing someone is not on my agenda, sad if it is on yours.

graciegirl 11-24-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1865153)
Yes the whole country will have to do, otherwise it will not work. As we see by the explosion of positives now people WILL NOT. They think its clever to yell at shop staff and restaurant owners wanting to protect their business and staff by stating masks must be worn.

Because you do not have it ( or think you do not, is more the truth) you go "patriotic" and refuse to wear one, and quote your constitutional rights. Well we all have rights, not to have our health endangered by these people.

Everyone could go out, enjoy some time out of the house, even eat in certain places, but this will NEVER HAPPEN while these selfish folk continue to rant. Diaper faces, is that what we are called by caring for our fellow man. Bring it on.... the thought killing someone is not on my agenda, sad if it is on yours.

Thinking that people in any group all think the same way is NOT ACCURATE.

Our numbers here in The Villages show that most people are doing the right thing.

jimjamuser 11-24-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1864849)
Mortality is not the only risk with COVID-19. Millions of people - especially children - who RECOVER from the virus have permanent lung damage and injury and damage to other organs as well. COPD is up in recovered COVID-19 patients, compared with people who were never infected.

Vitamin D is not a treatment or preventative for COVID-19. It might very well help reduce mortality, but it doesn't prevent you from getting sick. However, if you are deficient, then taking Vitamin D can and will of course increase your ability to fight off ANY illness, because a deficiency in necessary nutrients is - a deficiency.

But that's basic health, and not related to COVID-19.

That is absolutely a great presentation of the facts! Dr. Fauci calls the people with continuing CV complications "long haulers". They HAUL around the CV symptoms like organ damage permanently. That is one of the main reasons that I quarantine myself strictly. I do NOT think that MOST TV Landers are aware of these additional risk factors and statistics
- when they choose to continue living in a "NORMAL" manner. It is a good local public service message that your post has provided. Kudos!

SacDQ 11-24-2020 11:43 AM

We already wear mask when we go out in public. It’s a personal choice.

LG999 11-24-2020 11:50 AM

It is actually illegal for the government to order ppl to wear masks. It is one more way the constitution protects citizens from govt over reach. So, govt officials actually can not order the state to wear masks.

jmcote 11-24-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 1864902)
Yes. You’re correct. We can absolutely trust the numbers from a a communist country. They’ve been so honest during the whole thing. Wow....I have some swamp land to sell. Let me know if you’re interested, I’ll give you a good price!

Taiwan communist? Since when?

graciegirl 11-24-2020 11:57 AM

Numbers of deaths from Covid-19 by age;

COVID-19 Deaths by Age | The Heritage Foundation

jimjamuser 11-24-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1864860)
There is a misconception by many who believe that the masks are to protect the wearer. Although a mask has been shown to afford a degree of protection to the wearer, its main purpose is to protect other people FROM the wearer. The basic problem is that although a person may have no symptoms of COVID, they may still have the virus. Some of these people may never actually suffer symptoms and are just carriers, while most will show some signs 5-14 days after they first contacted COVID. In that period of time, without masking and distancing, think of all the people they could have transferred the virus to. If those transferees also refused to distance and mask, the likelihood is that a very large number of people in their circle will come down with the virus.

Many of the masks mandates that have been put into effect are very recent and they are not being enforced. You can readily see that what has been put into effect to date is not working. We are going into our tenth month and the numbers are becoming outrageous. Vaccines won’t be available to most of us before next April or May. If 90-95% of our people would adhere to wearing masks, we should be able to slow down the virus. If that does not happen, I believe that this pandemic will spiral out of control and our hospitals will be overwhelmed. That was the worry back in mid March when we had to close down the country for six weeks, which was very detrimental to our economy. We don’t want to have to do that again.

Very well written. Kudos! I have written several times about the 90-95% mask-wearing principle to bring the CV down to a controllable level. But, your writing is clearer. And I agree - your warning about not wearing masks causing the hospitals to become overwhelmed IS already happening in the Dakota states area. I COULD(?) happen here in The Villages. Yesterday there was a spike in cases upward to 157 in The Villages. AS the thread suggests The Villages should resist the unscientific DICTATE of our Governor and start our own self-imposed mask mandate. It is time for older people to show wisdom and warmth for their fellow humans. Greed for "NORMALCY" and politics have been PROVEN to NOT bring life-saving RESULTS. We need to start our own "grass roots" mask-wearing movement!


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