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drducat 09-14-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2004030)
Oh yes, the last resort when logic and facts fail..............blame the media.........and deflect!

Never listen to propaganda....They are the problem. Not blaming them for what they are being paid by what ever foreign power to mock each other about.

drducat 09-14-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2004006)
If the Delta variant was found in India around 2020, and India's vaccination program only got under way in January 2021, how did vaccine cause that variant?

Found but began where?

drducat 09-14-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2004052)
Reuters is a reliable source.

Righhhhhht!

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-14-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2004056)
Righhhhhht!

Reuters is not a "source" of scientific information. It's a media outlet that reports FROM actual sources.

Not to be confused with "media" like OANN, which is an "alternative facts" outlet that writes mostly emotionally charged rhetoric with snippets of quotes taken out of context, and passes it off as facts.

Reuters can sometimes be wrong, and can sometimes lapse in their fact-checking. Compare with OANN, which doesn't bother with pesky details like fact checking, and is often not merely wrong, but intentionally wrong.

Two Bills 09-15-2021 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2004055)
Found but began where?

Your the one with all the answers. Tell me.

drducat 09-15-2021 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2004105)
Your the one with all the answers. Tell me.

To be honest it is really hard to tell...We have Pakistan, UK, Bangladesh where Delta took roots and with the amount of travel??? No one knows and it can't be ascertained.

Koapaka 09-15-2021 06:51 AM

Interesting....Nearly Half Of All Hospitalized Patients With COVID-19 Had Only Mild Or Asymptomatic Cases, Study Shows


So why were they hospitalized?

JMintzer 09-15-2021 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2004187)

A multitude of other problems... Heart problems, Kidney problems, Cancer, MVAs..

They also happened to test positive for Covid...

Byte1 09-15-2021 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2003514)
Yes agreed, just take zinc. And try and ONLY care about yourself and near relatives. That is the SMALL-tribal theory of human society.

Works for me. Less worry, longer life.

Byte1 09-15-2021 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2004187)

BINGO!!:clap2:

Byte1 09-15-2021 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgodin (Post 2002879)
Yes to vaccine passports.

Let the unvaccinated enjoy "freedom" from inside their homes while patriotic americans move about freely.

Remember when patiotism meant a sacrifice for the common good? In WWII people gladly accepted years of rationing and blackouts. Soldiers letters home were read and censored. Where is that sense of civic duty now? Instead too many just in it for themselves.

And as for boosters. The military gave me more vaccines and boosters than I can count.
And on Monday I'm going to to the VA for the covid vaccine booster. It isn't just for my benefit. It's my patriotic duty to do what I can to stop the virus and save American lives.

Patriotism?
Good try, but no dice. That dog don't hunt. Love of one's country has nothing to do with what YOU deem is right for other people, such as being vaccinated.

It would be a lot easier for those "vaccinated" persons that fear getting infected, to stay home where they would not have to worry about anyone else infecting them. Since the vaccinated can still become infected and/or infect others, if they are afraid they should stay home where they can be assured of their safety. After all, those that are unvaccinated, have no idea whether or not they are infected and probably do not care.

Patriotism? That is like accusing someone of being a racist if they do not agree with you.
Come on Man!

Koapaka 09-15-2021 07:49 AM

EXACTLY! These are "stats" we are having thrown our way daily when many of these "COVID" patients clogging up hospitals are actually patients for others medical procedures and just happen to be tested positive with NO problems/complaints.

Again, the effort to drive a narrative certainly seems to be in play in the media trying to push people to believe otherwise.

Koapaka 09-15-2021 08:28 AM

The discussion section states "The findings indicate with moderate certainty that ivermectin treatment in COVID-19 provides a significant survival benefit."



Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infectio... : American Journal of Therapeutics

jswirs 09-15-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2004187)

So, if a patient enters a hospital with, for example, a heart condition, AND he test positive for Covid, should that person die, his / her death certificate indicates he / she died BECAUSE OF Covid, instead of WITH Covid. As usual, it's all about $$.
And now, for all those who disbelieve, I most humbly suggest you post a question on various social media sights, asking all whose loved ones passed with Covid on the death certificate, if they, indeed, passed BECAUSE of Covid, when they were suffering from some other malady unrelated to Covid.

SkBlogW 09-15-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2004236)
EXACTLY! These are "stats" we are having thrown our way daily when many of these "COVID" patients clogging up hospitals are actually patients for others medical procedures and just happen to be tested positive with NO problems/complaints.

Again, the effort to drive a narrative certainly seems to be in play in the media trying to push people to believe otherwise.

Yep, and gullible eat it up and follow with a drink of smug superiority. :)


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