I agree, some peoples posts (like the one you referenced) are so divisive, nasty and foolish. Thank you Thank You Thank You that they are not my neighbors.

You weren't listening...I wasn't talking about that, I was referencing the daily update, which btw, the whole nation watched.

Such a dilemma, sick covidelderly, removed from hospital... what to do with them? Their families didn't care, otherwise THEY would of taken them, so he sent back to their "listed" home address... the nursing homes(it's a care facility)....not the street.
Now the ones that closed their doors on gramma want to sue....what a surprise.

You know....thinking about it, you might be right. Always the same people try to turn it around and this thread is no different.

I respectfully disagree with this statement...

“Almost no politicians have the character of successful and good people who we know well who have the remarkable good sense to not be in any popularity contests.”


And also disagree totally with this...

“And the onesided media holds the reporting of news by their vulnerable parts.”



BOTH are simply recent additions to the demise of our country.

If you really believe what you said, must be frustrating to even get out of bed in the morning.

No, all politicians are honest, moral, etc. but the United States is replete with resignations because of honor, parties preventing nominations because of character.

And I can net recall even one instance of an elected official passing him or herself off as someone who is to decide any scientific issue, yet to dare lie about it. G Bush comes to mind and the anguish he went through making a decision on stem cell research.

No, I have much more confidence in our system than you. It is limping right now, and has and is under attack for a few years, and surprising to me even, openly with no qualms.

I prefer my country to any one leader, and trust my country. I can see lies, and I can see hypocritical behavior on any side, and mostly will fight for my country, and never give up. What we are experiencing in this pandemic behavior is simply unamerican. The lies, accusation and hate defended on this forum and other places is unforgivable and certainly will be not be forgotten.

You are correct a handful of posters try to get a thread shut down if it doesn’t fit their political narrative. Their posts are often long, obtuse, lacking facts and frequent. They try to draw you into off topic side issues. There is lots of evidence both direct and circumstantial that the virus was man made and the OP is correct. A full investigation is warranted.

The COVID lab-leak hypothesis: what scientists do and don’t know

This has a pretty thorough discussion of this topic.

First, I agree with the investigation part of your post. It has been done by various groups, and certainly should/will be many more. Problem is, on this forum the reliance is on theories grounded not in facts in evidence or even mentioned.

If Dr Faucci lied so many times to Congress, there is no penalty great enough to cover how I feel. Nothing in these links show anything.

As far as posts are concerned, this has been made political and not by me. Look back to spring of 2020 to find that birth. When the posts join a campaign of politics to accuse over and over, no matter the facts, it is hard to escape. I trust the moderators are able to easily choose those posts that don’t even try to address the thread title.

I've read enough of your posts to know the phrase 'without merit' means any post that doesn't agree with you.

Might surprise you but there are other experts out there that know as much or more than Fauci.

Do you even realize how circular your reasoning is?

I don't rely on my own logic and common sense but my logic and common sense tells me.....

Great link.

But, it will not be received well on this forum should any of these folks decide to read it.

Great read. We all want an answer, and this read shows those who care have been and are totally invested in getting the truth.

That includes Dr Faucci, if anyone reads.

There was a reason his Pulitzer prize was taken away.

The self agenda and greed by our politicians has been going on for decades. IMO, anyone who goes to Washington, with honesty and integrity, will soon be, literally, squashed. I suggest you view the 1939 film, "Mr. Smith goes to Washington", Staring Jimmy Stuart and Jean Arthur. That film depicts the "Tip of the iceberg", for what is happening today. Don't misunderstand, I LOVE my country, but I am beginning to fear my government, and I mean both major parties.

On this forum, so many have been taught, and really believe that creating villains, attacking them personally will lead to power.

Guess it will take no more villains and anyone to hate to stop that. It has certainly pushed our country to the back over the past years. No ideas for the country, but lots of proven unsubstantiated accusations and hate does not make for growth of our country.

I do not fear my government, but do fear those who attack it constantly and as a matter of course. Change in direction, when needed, has a route. It is not public accusations and hate, but requires LISTENING and discussing with the aim being what is best for the country, not simple political power.

And if I recall in the movie you reference voters would not tolerate lying in public under any circumstance. Although long time since I saw it. And those who wanted only raw power short on ideas were not tolerated

And the other lesson in the movie you reference......do not fear the government, but fear those voters who send the wrong people to serve., and those who are privileged to serve need to be held accountable.

We wouldn't expect anything less from you.