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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-04-2023 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2223302)
You can’t change people’s attitudes by making them angry. All this in your face behavior is just making the situation worse.

They are angry, already. They're being selective in the target of their anger. Sometimes it's Dems. Sometimes it's liberals. Sometimes it's gays. Sometimes it's blacks, sometimes illegal immigrants, sometimes it's Russians. This week it's "LGBTQIA people who drink Bud Lite". It's like they run out of things to be angry about and have to pick something new every week in order to justify their perpetual anger.

jimbomaybe 06-04-2023 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223336)
They are angry, already. They're being selective in the target of their anger. Sometimes it's Dems. Sometimes it's liberals. Sometimes it's gays. Sometimes it's blacks, sometimes illegal immigrants, sometimes it's Russians. This week it's "LGBTQIA people who drink Bud Lite". It's like they run out of things to be angry about and have to pick something new every week in order to justify their perpetual anger.

Always will be some segment angry about something or whining and angry about some terrible injustice

JMintzer 06-04-2023 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223206)
To distinguish from all the times when they are treated as inferior because of their differences. Why do you NOT need to celebrate your sameness? Because - you're all the same. No one is discriminating against you. No one is treating you as inferior due to your sameness. No one is trying to kill you for being the same. No one is refusing to make a cake for you because of your sameness. No one is refusing to hire you, refusing to promote you, refusing to teach you, refusing to leave you in peace, as a direct result of your sameness.

People who are different, are vilified, trashed, bullied, belittled, assaulted, rejected, and killed - just because they're different. So one month a year they get together and say "y'know what - we are worthy of celebrating our existence."

And so they do.

:loco::loco::loco:

JMintzer 06-04-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223233)
Is doubling down on my point supposed to change my mind?

Is continually lecturing people about how bigoted they are supposed to change their minds?

Taltarzac725 06-04-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223336)
They are angry, already. They're being selective in the target of their anger. Sometimes it's Dems. Sometimes it's liberals. Sometimes it's gays. Sometimes it's blacks, sometimes illegal immigrants, sometimes it's Russians. This week it's "LGBTQIA people who drink Bud Lite". It's like they run out of things to be angry about and have to pick something new every week in order to justify their perpetual anger.

Fox News seems to get a lot of advertising revenue from ads in-between the "Hate of the Week".

JMintzer 06-04-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223336)
They are angry, already. They're being selective in the target of their anger. Sometimes it's Dems. Sometimes it's liberals. Sometimes it's gays. Sometimes it's blacks, sometimes illegal immigrants, sometimes it's Russians. This week it's "LGBTQIA people who drink Bud Lite". It's like they run out of things to be angry about and have to pick something new every week in order to justify their perpetual anger.

Good thing you're never angry...

manaboutown 06-04-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2223407)
Fox News seems to get a lot of advertising revenue from ads in-between the "Hate of the Week".

The primary hate I see is coming from demented transgender activists. They sure throw a lot of tantrums and hissy fits in public! See post #130.

FOX may benefit as the MSM bury stories and videos of transgender malfeasance. One of the few places to see what is really happening is on FOX News.

mickey100 06-04-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2223417)
The primary hate I see is coming from demented transgender activists. They sure throw a lot of tantrums in public! See post #130.

FOX may benefit as the MSM bury stories and videos of transgenders malfeasance. One of the few places to see what is really happening is on Fox News.

Fox News - reality...funny. Like the election lies that cost Fox $787 million? Or was it when a Fox news host claimed the Russian threat to invade Ukraine was a hoax by the Biden administration? Another Fox news anchor falsely claimed Disney wants 50% of all characters to be gay...Oh wait, maybe it was when Sean Hannity said the White house wants to ban all gas ovens and burners.

?? I mean, who in their right mind would believe all that crackpot nonsense?

:a20:

Bill14564 06-04-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2223405)
Is continually lecturing people about how bigoted they are supposed to change their minds?

One can only hope.

JMintzer 06-04-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2223425)
Fox News - reality...funny. Like the election lies that cost Fox $787 million? Or was it when a Fox news host claimed the Russian threat to invade Ukraine was a hoax by the Biden administration? Another Fox news anchor falsely claimed Disney wants 50% of all characters to be gay...Oh wait, maybe it was when Sean Hannity said the White house wants to ban all gas ovens and burners.

?? I mean, who in their right mind would believe all that crackpot nonsense?

:a20:

You mean this "crackpot nonsense"?

"Karey Burke, president of Disney's General Entertainment Content, announced on a company-wide Zoom call Monday that as “the mother of two queer children”—one transgender and one pansexual, she elaborated—she intends to drastically ramp up queer visibility within the Magic Kingdom, increasing characters in Disney ...Mar 30, 2022"

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

And I remember a former POTUS scoffing at Russia being the premier global threat, saying, "The 80's called, and they want their foreign policy back..."

JMintzer 06-04-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223440)
One can only hope.

Don't hold your breath...

dougjb 06-05-2023 05:35 AM

Celebrate diversity!

We are all god's children and deserve respect from our fellow human beings.

We are all different. Yet, we all breath the same air, drink the same water and eat the same food.

There is way too much hate in this world! Let's make it a far better place by recognizing we are all different while knowing we are all in this together doing our level best to get through it in the best way we each find possible.

villager7591 06-05-2023 06:44 AM

You can add the frauds at blm too...

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2223566)
Celebrate diversity!

We are all god's children and deserve respect from our fellow human beings.

We are all different. Yet, we all breath the same air, drink the same water and eat the same food.

There is way too much hate in this world! Let's make it a far better place by recognizing we are all different while knowing we are all in this together doing our level best to get through it in the best way we each find possible.

Sadly, you are both preaching to the choir, and shouting a brick wall. On this forum, there is no nuance. You either hate and fear anything that's different and will declare that it is evil, against god's will, against humanity, against your personal sensibilities, so sayeth Newsmax..

Or you will already agree that people need to chill out and stop being afraid of and hate other people just because they look different, dress different, and prefer you call him a "he" even if he has a uterus.

jimbomaybe 06-05-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2223566)
Celebrate diversity!

We are all god's children and deserve respect from our fellow human beings.

We are all different. Yet, we all breath the same air, drink the same water and eat the same food.

There is way too much hate in this world! Let's make it a far better place by recognizing we are all different while knowing we are all in this together doing our level best to get through it in the best way we each find possible.

This is not about persecuting mistreating or abusing any one or group, no one here has suggested anything of the sort. You deal with the world as it is, facts have to be addressed, if you can not accept facts because they are unpalatable/ uncomfortable you will just make more problems, compassion for people with issues certainly , but pretending to deal with issues by accepting a non reality is unhealthy for individuals as well as the larger society, note how one side of this discussion is being characterized

Byte1 06-05-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223634)
Sadly, you are both preaching to the choir, and shouting a brick wall. On this forum, there is no nuance. You either hate and fear anything that's different and will declare that it is evil, against god's will, against humanity, against your personal sensibilities, so sayeth Newsmax..

Or you will already agree that people need to chill out and stop being afraid of and hate other people just because they look different, dress different, and prefer you call him a "he" even if he has a uterus.

So, you are demanding that folks fantasize and pretend along with those that apparently you think are "different?" Humor, not respect...is that it? Tell me, if one goes along with the idea that pretending is a normal behavior, does that make us less bigoted or homophobic? If a person identifies as a dog, are we supposed to converse with "it" by barking and allow "it" to roam the streets nude? Pretending does not make a person a male if female or a female if a male. Even having surgery does not do anything except enhance the perception of pretense. I thought that folks believed in science. I guess mental illness is also a subject of science. Is pretending healthy?

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2223666)
So, you are demanding that folks fantasize and pretend along with those that apparently you think are "different?" Humor, not respect...is that it? Tell me, if one goes along with the idea that pretending is a normal behavior, does that make us less bigoted or homophobic? If a person identifies as a dog, are we supposed to converse with "it" by barking and allow "it" to roam the streets nude? Pretending does not make a person a male if female or a female if a male. Even having surgery does not do anything except enhance the perception of pretense. I thought that folks believed in science. I guess mental illness is also a subject of science. Is pretending healthy?

And if a nasty, crusty, hatemongering piece of filth pretends to be a member of humanity, we're supposed to just go along with it?

Your turn.

Byte1 06-05-2023 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223674)
And if a nasty, crusty, hatemongering piece of filth pretends to be a member of humanity, we're supposed to just go along with it?

Your turn.

That's exactly what I have been saying. Glad you agree with me.

jimbomaybe 06-05-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2223705)
That's exactly what I have been saying. Glad you agree with me.

I don't understand how a genetically male can change to a female through a subjective feeling rather than be a male with issues. I haven't had much of a response explaining the mechanism, perhaps my posts demonstrates by projection a deep fear and anxiety on my part ?

JMintzer 06-05-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223634)
Sadly, you are both preaching to the choir, and shouting a brick wall. On this forum, there is no nuance. You either hate and fear anything that's different and will declare that it is evil, against god's will, against humanity, against your personal sensibilities, so sayeth Newsmax..

Or you will already agree that people need to chill out and stop being afraid of and hate other people just because they look different, dress different, and prefer you call him a "he" even if he has a uterus.

So much nuance in you're post...

Either you agree with you or you're a "hater"...

Do we now have to start drinking when people say "Newsmax"?

JMintzer 06-05-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223674)
And if a nasty, crusty, hatemongering piece of filth pretends to be a member of humanity, we're supposed to just go along with it?

Your turn.

So much nuance...

Byte1 06-05-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2223716)
I don't understand how a genetically male can change to a female through a subjective feeling rather than be a male with issues. I haven't had much of a response explaining the mechanism, perhaps my posts demonstrates by projection a deep fear and anxiety on my part ?

.........or theirs...perhaps?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Byte1 06-05-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2223728)
So much nuance...

Did you mean "nuisance?" :jester:

Bill14564 06-05-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2223716)
I don't understand how a genetically male can change to a female through a subjective feeling rather than be a male with issues. I haven't had much of a response explaining the mechanism, perhaps my posts demonstrates by projection a deep fear and anxiety on my part ?

Read about fetal brain development and differences between male and female brains. If a brain develops one way while the body develops another there is a conflict - the way you look and the way you are treated doesn't match the way you feel. You can't change the structure of your brain but you can change your outward appearance.

Since brains start with female characteristics and develop into male brains, the most common conflict is when this doesn't happen. The brain has a more female structure while the body develops as male. Someone who changes their outward structure to better align the two is known as a trans-woman.

This has nothing to do with sexual desires. This not a sin. This is not deviant behavior. This is not something that can be "cured" through deprogramming. This is not a choice any more than left-handedness is a choice.

Things might be better for these people if our social norms were changed. If we stopped demanding that those with male characteristics behave one way and those with female characteristics behave a different way. If society was more accepting of those who were different then there wouldn't be as much pressure to look the part you feel you need to play. Unfortunately, acceptance of those who are different hasn't caught on yet.

dewilson58 06-05-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223747)
Read about fetal brain development and differences between male and female brains. If a brain develops one way while the body develops another there is a conflict - the way you look and the way you are treated doesn't match the way you feel. You can't change the structure of your brain but you can change your outward appearance.

We are all aware.
Such a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of humans have this bad wiring.
This is not what is happening in America.
This is not what this thread is about.
This is not what the gay Bud-Lite guy is all about.


Nice try.

Byte1 06-05-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223747)
Read about fetal brain development and differences between male and female brains. If a brain develops one way while the body develops another there is a conflict - the way you look and the way you are treated doesn't match the way you feel. You can't change the structure of your brain but you can change your outward appearance.

Since brains start with female characteristics and develop into male brains, the most common conflict is when this doesn't happen. The brain has a more female structure while the body develops as male. Someone who changes their outward structure to better align the two is known as a trans-woman.

This has nothing to do with sexual desires. This not a sin. This is not deviant behavior. This is not something that can be "cured" through deprogramming. This is not a choice any more than left-handedness is a choice.

Things might be better for these people if our social norms were changed. If we stopped demanding that those with male characteristics behave one way and those with female characteristics behave a different way. If society was more accepting of those who were different then there wouldn't be as much pressure to look the part you feel you need to play. Unfortunately, acceptance of those who are different hasn't caught on yet.

Almost an example of an oxymoron. Accepting OR forcing acceptance? Tolerance is more likely before condoning. The problem is that "they" want to be accepted as normal when the fact is that they do not fit the normal category. Suffice it to say that most good folks tolerate and have removed laws prohibiting the perverted nature of some of those alphabet representatives. They may not condone and shouldn't be forced into condoning against their will. Tolerance should be enough. You generalize when you suggest "accepting of those that are different" when that could encompass many other examples of deviant behavior. Should pedophiles be accepted because they are different? After all, they were accepted in Greece. Bestiality accepted because they have different inclinations? Where is the line between normal and abnormal or what we accept or not? Like I have said many times, keep your inclinations in private. I do not wish to know or be forced to accept that which is considered taboo in most cultures and definitely by the majority of American citizens, whether tolerated or outlawed. Just because something feels good, does not make it right or acceptable. I have known of persons that would disrobe and run completely nude throughout the community. That is a person that is different, so I should "accept" their behavior? Common sense or common decency? Even on here, there are those that defend the abnormal and yet use the term "different" when referring to the deviant lifestyle. Different in this case, is saying that it is not normal behavior.

Bill14564 06-05-2023 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2223750)
We are all aware.
Such a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of humans have this bad wiring.
This is not what is happening in America.
This is not what this thread is about.
This is not what the gay Bud-Lite guy is all about.


Nice try.

Who is "we?". Apparently, not everyone on this thread is aware.

What is the tiny, tiny, tiny percentage? How many living humans do you write off?

The lack of understanding, lack of compassion, and outright hatred against those that are different in this way is what is happening in America and is EXACTLY what this thread is about.

I don't know the "gay Bud-Lite guy" so I can't speak to what she is or is not about.

dewilson58 06-05-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223765)
Who is "we?". Apparently, not everyone on this thread is aware.

What is the tiny, tiny, tiny percentage? How many living humans do you write off?

The lack of understanding, lack of compassion, and outright hatred against those that are different in this way is what is happening in America and is EXACTLY what this thread is about.

I don't know the "gay Bud-Lite guy" so I can't speak to what she is or is not about.

What a silly response.
Of course not 100% on this thread is aware. There's always a chance.
Not writing anyone off, never said I did. Worthless attempt at a debate.
I don't have a lack of understanding or compassion and absolutely not hate.
The tiny, tiny, tine percentage should get help.
Again, this thread & North Face & Bud Lite & Target issue is unrelated to your reach.
Nice try pulling in the hate card. Doesn't apply.

Read the OP, that is what this thread is about.

JMintzer 06-05-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2223736)
Did you mean "nuisance?" :jester:

I could go either way...

Wait... Does that mean I get my own flag?

JMintzer 06-05-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223747)
Read about fetal brain development and differences between male and female brains. If a brain develops one way while the body develops another there is a conflict - the way you look and the way you are treated doesn't match the way you feel. You can't change the structure of your brain but you can change your outward appearance.

Since brains start with female characteristics and develop into male brains, the most common conflict is when this doesn't happen. The brain has a more female structure while the body develops as male. Someone who changes their outward structure to better align the two is known as a trans-woman.

This has nothing to do with sexual desires. This not a sin. This is not deviant behavior. This is not something that can be "cured" through deprogramming. This is not a choice any more than left-handedness is a choice.

Things might be better for these people if our social norms were changed. If we stopped demanding that those with male characteristics behave one way and those with female characteristics behave a different way. If society was more accepting of those who were different then there wouldn't be as much pressure to look the part you feel you need to play. Unfortunately, acceptance of those who are different hasn't caught on yet.

There are males that act more feminine and females who act more masculine... It's always been that way...

And guess what? Nobody cares... That is not the issue that you keep arguing about...

JMintzer 06-05-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223765)
Who is "we?". Apparently, not everyone on this thread is aware.

What is the tiny, tiny, tiny percentage? How many living humans do you write off?

The lack of understanding, lack of compassion, and outright hatred against those that are different in this way is what is happening in America and is EXACTLY what this thread is about.

I don't know the "gay Bud-Lite guy" so I can't speak to what she is or is not about.

It would help if you actually knew what the argument was about...

Bill14564 06-05-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2223795)
It would help if you actually knew what the argument was about...

Oh, I am well aware of what the argument is about (and you know that). I just do not presume to know what this person whom I have never met is or is not about.

jimbomaybe 06-05-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2223728)
So much nuance...

And if a nasty, crusty, hatemongering piece of filth pretends to be a member of humanity, we're supposed to just go along with it?
Can't you feel the love?

JMintzer 06-05-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223799)
Oh, I am well aware of what the argument is about (and you know that). I just do not presume to know what this person whom I have never met is or is not about.

Well, Dylan Mulvaney is the person who helped start this fustercluck with Bud Lite, so it would behoove you to figure out what he/she is about...

Bill14564 06-05-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2223810)
Well, Dylan Mulvaney is the person who helped start this fustercluck with Bud Lite, so it would behoove you to figure out what he/she is about...

This has nothing to do with Dylan Mulvaney as a person or what she is about. Any trans-person in that position would have resulted on the same reaction.

That is what is most disgusting about this: it doesn't matter who she is or what she believes or even what she said, all that matters is Bud Lite dared to associate with one of those trans-types and that cannot be allowed to stand.

manaboutown 06-05-2023 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223814)
This has nothing to do with Dylan Mulvaney as a person or what she is about. Any trans-person in that position would have resulted on the same reaction.

That is what is most disgusting about this: it doesn't matter who she is or what she believes or even what she said, all that matters is Bud Lite dared to associate with one of those trans-types and that cannot be allowed to stand.

Dylan is a he, not a she. biology, not bigotry.

JMintzer 06-05-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223814)
This has nothing to do with Dylan Mulvaney as a person or what she is about. Any trans-person in that position would have resulted on the same reaction.

That is what is most disgusting about this: it doesn't matter who she is or what she believes or even what she said, all that matters is Bud Lite dared to associate with one of those trans-types and that cannot be allowed to stand.

Well, that's certainly an opinion...

So tell me, where to you keep your crystal ball?

I'm Popeye! 06-05-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2223765)
I don't know the "gay Bud-Lite guy" so I can't speak to what she is or is not about.

Another one that has no clue on the definition of a WOMEN...

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-05-2023 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2223847)
Another one that has no clue on the definition of a WOMEN...

Another one who doesn't know the difference between singular and plural.

But I digest.

Mulvaney claims the pronouns she/them. Since it doesn't hurt me in my feelings place, and no trans-gender ever touched me in an inappropriate spot, I have no problem referring to her as a her. Because, my femininity isn't so fragile that it's threatened by someone with a beard and a wanker who wants to be referred to as a she. Maybe some men need to man up, if this is just SO threatening to their fragile egos that they have to boycott a company over it.

That's not a man, to me. A man is someone who isn't afraid of a guy who says he's a she.

manaboutown 06-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2223848)
Another one who doesn't know the difference between singular and plural.

But I digest.

Mulvaney claims the pronouns she/them. Since it doesn't hurt me in my feelings place, and no trans-gender ever touched me in an inappropriate spot, I have no problem referring to her as a her. Because, my femininity isn't so fragile that it's threatened by someone with a beard and a wanker who wants to be referred to as a she. Maybe some men need to man up, if this is just SO threatening to their fragile egos that they have to boycott a company over it.

That's not a man, to me. A man is someone who isn't afraid of a guy who says he's a she.

A man is an adult human being having XY chromosomes. Mulvaney is XY; he is not a she. No surprise, Dylan is a dude.


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