I just read it again. Which of those 16 fallacies do you think applies?

All the statements in the previous post are true. Rather than put words in your mouth, tell us what statement about teaching about LGBTQ, reading about LGBTQ, or acknowledging LGBTQ individuals is contrary to those.

So, teaching children has what limits imposed? Do they teach them sodomy? After all, that's what LGBTQ-aphabet is all about. I know, I know, maybe, maybe trans-whatever might not be involved in sodomy. My guess is that many trannys are gay, and not just dress up because they love to act like the opposite gender. Not that it's any of my business UNTIL they make it OK to teach children this abnormal behavior.

Could someone explain why there has been such a massive increase in children identifying as LGBT+?

Since 1980, there has been a 5 fold increase...

Could it be that these kids, who view themselves as "different" have found a new outlet for their angst?

It used to be "Grunge, or Goth", then, it was "Emo"... Now it seems to be fashionable to claim one is "non-binary", or "LGBT+"...

The internet (twitter, Instagram, Facebook) have had a massive influence on Millenials and GenZ... It has been compounded by progressive "educators", who want to push an agenda...

Or, it's just a coincidence...

Straw man...

True, or not... They have ZERO relevance to the conversation...

Sounds like a list of made up shows trying to drive an agenda. I see none of this on History, Discovery, NASA or real science channel

Now I'm confused. I thought the assertion was that Target selling those clothes was an attempt to groom children or to convince them.to be LGBTQ. That seems to be your assertion in your previous post. That being the case, those statements do not present straw-man arguments, they represent direct contradictions to the assertions.

Sad that we know right from wrong and we express an opinion we are called bigots or even worse

The ignorance of these statements requires no further response.

So you still haven't looked up the definition.

How is teaching about frogs in any way the same as grooming children?

Pushing to have books teaching exactly that to little kids is most certainly an agenda...

Do you deny that is what is being attempted?

I'll post titles and pages from said books if you can promise I'll still be here to respond to whatever excuse you post...

BTW... Parents who attempted to read from said books were thrown out of school board meetings for obscenity reasons...

Hmm, your post seems irrelevant if my statement requires no response.

Let me make it simple so that anyone can understand. The idea that has been bandied about is that children should or should not be taught or exposed to abnormal lifestyles by the media or commercial business. Those that oppose the idea of exposing children to the abnormal, deviant lifestyle are suggesting that children are too young to made to decide for themselves whether the lifestyle should be part of their life. Those that are pro-exposure to children are suggesting that they be taught the lifestyle and then let them decide because today's grown up are not reliable parents. Does that put it simple and in a nutshell?
So, my question is:
Suppose we say "OK, let's teach the kids that these other lifestyles are acceptable and that they should decide for themselves if one of those deviant lifestyles is for them or not." So, how do you explain them to the children? When they ask their parents or the so-called teachers what or how these lifestyle are, are they explained the abnormal nature of sodomy? Of course, I have been told many times that trans-dressers are not gay. Really? Does anyone really believe that? So, explaining sodomy to children is OK or not? I believe it should be taboo to little children. Like I have said many times in the past, what you do in private is your business. What you attempt to teach my children better be fine with me or we have a problem. So, NO this garbage does not need to be commercialized for all to see.
"SO, what are you going to teach your child to be when he/she/it grows up? Male, female or non-binary?"

Deviant lifestyles??? oh brother.

I don't have to demonstrate anything at all. In fact, a person's identity is THEIR identity.

If a guy says he's a woman named Angela then I'll refer to him as "her" and "she" and call her Angela. It's a pretty stupid thing to get uptight about.

LOL, how better to demonstrate the complete lack of understanding of the customer base between the board room and reality, it is truly amazing what people get paid these days to make such decisions based on ?? Based on what ? An IN DEPTH survey of their typical customer ? Do they truly believe that the "typical" gay individuals who enjoys their beer, is actually a clone of the "character" they use to represent them ? Same with target, does anyone really believe that the typical, average, gay customer really cares if "gay" products are featured as the very first display when you enter the Target stores ? Do "straight" or hetero people care where "their" clothing is located ? Do the outdoors type personalities secretly RESENT always being banished to the back of the stores, will that group protest next ? Instead of a fair and democratic people, we've become a nation of irrational people.

deviant
dē′vē-ənt
adjective

Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.
Deviating
having behavior or characteristics differing from that which is normal or expected, especially in an undesirable or socially disapproved manner.

Was there a problem with how I used the word?

"They" want to be invited to the "correct" cocktail parties and score bonus points in the ESG community.

Yes, yes, a true bargain in exchange for the "free" advertising on not just Fox News, but several others, and especially GMA and the View ladies, non stop publicity, must be worth it to them, more and more follow them what others of us consider "over the cliff" ! I don't even chose the products I buy and use based on WHO is in their advertisements, could not care less what ________ (name a star) thinks of Gold as an "investment" or if ______ just "loves" this brand of shampoo !

I imagine it would be a pretty big deal to women who encounter him in the ladies room

I'm guessing "Marketing" wasn't your major in college...

The fact that you think all of this is "good" publicity, despite the 25% drop in sales and the $$$ Billions lost in market capitalization, stock prices dropping daily is stunning...

Remember the "Be Like Mike" campaign from Gatorade?

Or the $$$ Billions Nike made from his involvement?

How about Tiger and Nike?

Lebron James and Nike?

PGA players being paid $$$ Millions to use certain clubs/balls?

So yeah, WHO is involved in the marketing most certainly matters...

But it's good to know you're so far above all that...

Just don't make the mistake of misgendering that person in the workplace, lest you get fired...

Any women who was not 100% accepting would be considered a bigot. Even if "Angela" had a raging ********

I have no problem with some living a delusion , dressing as they will act as whatever , but not having society at large accepting delusions as factual, that can not be healthy

Thank goodness they do not believe they are a horse because I am all out of apples.

Got any carrots?

Angela the "guy who says she's a woman" isn't asking me to give her anything. She's just asking me to call her a woman and refer to her as a she/her. It costs me nothing to do that. It is no more energy spent than referring to her as a him and calling him a man. It doesn't take money from my pocket, it takes no food from my refrigerator, it doesn't trespass on my property, it doesn't infringe on my rights to think of her as a guy.

I get it. Guys who say they're women is a weird thing, and hard to wrap your mind around. I don't understand it either. I can't imagine feeling, or believing, or thinking I'm anything other than how I was born. But apparently some people do, and demanding that they reject how they feel, is just as weird to me as someone demanding that I reject how I feel.

If you meet me on the street and I tell you my name is Orange Blossom Baby, and you call me George, and absolutely refuse to call me by MY preferred name, then it's you, being disrespectful to me. I'm not asking you to take me out to lunch. I'm asking you to call me by a particular name, and refer to me as such.

So are you OK using the restroom with this "she"?

Disney just hit a new low with this mustached guy dressed up in work clothes at Disneyland in Anaheim as a princess selling princess outfits to little girls. They have out targeted Target. This is perverted! Parents Furious After Video Captures What Male Disney Employee Was Doing in Shop for Young Girls

Odd, but harmless.

What are you so concerned about? Do you think.this will.make little boys want to wear dresses? Do you think it will make little girls want to grow moustaches? Or do you worry it will make your grandchildren accepting of others and embarrass you when they call you out for your intolerance?

Do you generally expose yourself to others in the restroom? If so, please stay away from me!

I assume there are no urinals in the women's restroom and most women don't peek through the door to check out the other women in there.

I was asking a woman for an answer.
Obviously, you are OK with it.

Wonder what people would do with various individuals who are sometimes hard at projecting a masculine or a feminine image? Like Saturday Night Live's "It's Pat". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdV3VomzKdI

And there are a few rather new shows with characters you are hard pressed to identify gender like on Quantum Leap. Mason Alexander Park - IMDb Mason is a they.

I do! Just picked some up at Aldi. So if any delusional person shows up thinking they are a horse I can offer them a treat.

I see your point. So from now on, please refer to me as Intellectually Superior. If you do not, then I assume you are disrespectful.

but this is only a pretend woman

:agree:

Yes - there is a clear problem. Science says that variation in sexuality, such as homosexuality, is normal - a natural part of our diversity as a species. Gallup polls show U.S. acceptance of Gay/lesbian relations - they are morally acceptable to 71% of the polling audience in 2022.

So true. They are all pushing all types of sex on children. No matter of our mental health there is only male and female.

But really, our country celebrating an entire month as pride month.

Hah! Gallup asked how many for such a response?
Yes, but science also says that it's very "normal" to find society with lots of deviant traits. It is quite normal for a few folks in any culture or country to think they are animals. It's all in the WORDING. Sorry to inform you but even though folks in some countries are gracious enough to accept demented folks (folks with mental disorders) they do not consider them "normal." There's a word for it that many of our decent folks use --- Tolerance. Folks that do not CONDONE can still TOLERATE mental disorders. I have some dear friends that are "homosexual" as you use it. [ I understand that that word is taboo? and you are supposed to use the word "Gay?"] I love those folks (that does not make me Gay) but I do not condone their lifestyle. Knowing that I am straight (as in heterosexual) they do not discuss their lifestyle.
So, if the only retort one has to justify their abnormal behavior is to attack anyone that does not endorse their lifestyle, then they have already lost the debate.
I tolerate that abnormal behavior to a limited extent. I will NOT tolerate children being taught that the lifestyle is normal. It is not.
BTW, GOD says the behavior is wrong, so that's good enough for me. Yes, HE also says there are many other things that man does that is wrong also. But those are another subject.

Oh, and Pride parades with silly makeup and costumes to flaunt their lifestyle really instills so much of the "respect" that they are seeking. :pepper2: :clap2: