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OrangeBlossomBaby 05-26-2023 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2221167)
I had to select binary vs non binary on one of the last surveys I took at work. I was not familiar with those words and needed to goggle to find the difference.
You'll need to google "google" too - it's not goggle.

Boomer 05-26-2023 11:03 AM
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me neither — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)

Pennyt 05-26-2023 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2220652)
North Face, REI, Columbia, etc. all lean lefty, primarily due to their vested interest in National Parks, all things outdoors, which leads them down the road to climate issues, etc.

Can't boycott them all, but I do try to pick and choose the lesser of the evils.
And what's wrong with being interested in National Parks and the outdoors?? That should be everyone's concern, regardless of some political leaning.

Caymus 05-26-2023 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2221170)
You'll need to google "google" too - it's not goggle.
Is pointing out a typo a micro aggression?

Caymus 05-26-2023 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221171)
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me either — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: Btw, I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)
It is pure capitalism. They should have considered the intense competition they face in the beer industry.

rsimpson 05-26-2023 11:33 AM
Child Sexual Abuse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221171)
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me neither — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)
Easy Answer - this 'fad' as some have called it, is targeting children with life-changing surgeries, drugs, strerilization and mutilation. It is worth a few thousand jobs to keep kids from being destroyed.

shut the front door 05-26-2023 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2220758)
I am sure that you realize that there really IS a difference? Rainbows and Rainbow symbols became the logo that the gay deviant lifestyle commandeered to represent them. Not the other way around. Just as the Christian cross that represents the Crucifixion of Christ and HIS subsequent rising from death, was commandeered by the KKK to represent them. In the Bible the rainbow symbolizes promise and hope, AND never symbolized the gay lifestyle. I think that comparing lifesavers and crayons to the gay symbol is a bit far fetched. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
It has always given me a chuckle the way the alphabet crowd want to comandeer religious symbols and words. Last I checked, "pride" is one of the 7 deadly sins.

Boomer 05-26-2023 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2221176)
It is pure capitalism. They should have considered the intense competition they face in the beer industry.
Nope. No pass for you. Was that intended as a diversionary tactic or did you actually miss my point in Post #93?….

Who’s “they”? I assume you mean the big wheels at Bud. That is not where my concern lies. Those people never get hurt. Or if they, sort of, do, they walk away with millions. Nor are the investors the real losers because this, too, shall pass — for investors — but not for Bud workers if they lose jobs. Good jobs are the backbone of the overall economy. And, yet, taking them out is the goal of many in this thread.

What about the Bud workers who had no influence over Bud’s decision? How can any right thinker be glad Bud’s working people could be out of jobs through no fault of their own? That smells elitist to me. Kind of a “Let them eat cake” mentality.

I want people working for good money and benefits. But the raging boycotters are so stoked they don’t care — or can’t think because they are being successfully targeted and manipulated by propaganda from power-grabbers.

Those who made the decision to go with some niche advertising will not have the kind of economic consequences fall into their personal lives like those frontline Bud workers might — if this megaphone-mouthed obsession does not stop.

Like Trae Crowder said in his recent YouTube, darkly funny, smartazz, 3 minute video, “It’s not like this was some Super Bowl ad” …… and he goes on to explain how it all started. This was a tiny ad for a small number of people.

But even if you won’t look up Trae Crowder, can you please think about the weirdness of taking joy in the possibility of causing blameless people to lose their jobs.

Boomer

Note to Self: Damn. I’m too purdy to get all tangled up in this thread. Why oh why did I have to look this morning. I need to remember what Mark Twain said about arguments like this. (sigh)

Byte1 05-26-2023 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2221170)
You'll need to google "google" too - it's not goggle.
Isn't it supposed to be spelled "nothingburger?" I mean, if we are going to suddenly check for spelling errors..........:boom:

Byte1 05-26-2023 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221171)
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me neither — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)
Did you have a point? Or, is the point that there is no point? Or, is it that we should not discuss subjects that are sensitive?
Oh well, like I said above I am just following this because I am bored today, like I was yesterday. Looking forward to Memorial Day cooking out.

dewilson58 05-26-2023 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2221218)
Looking forward to Memorial Day cooking out.
Besides Coors Lite, what R U having??

Byte1 05-26-2023 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2221221)
Besides Coors Lite, what R U having??
Would if I could, Coors Lite. Most likely Arnold Palmer will be my usual beverage of choice. I usually keep Stella and Ultra cold for company. If I know someone has a preference that I don't usually stock, I try to purchase it ahead of time. I limited my alcohol consumption years ago when I carried a high security clearance, and never bothered to revisit it since.

Byte1 05-26-2023 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2221175)
Is pointing out a typo a micro aggression?
More likely, just someone being a S**A**.

Stu from NYC 05-26-2023 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221171)
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me neither — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)
I usually agree with you but not this time. When a company does something that could harm our country and our kids how do we sit back and not react?

manaboutown 05-26-2023 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2221229)
I usually agree with you but not this time. When a company does something that could harm our country and our kids how do we sit back and not react?
I agree. Unfortunately I directly own some TGT; another company in which I own shares owns a large chunk of BUD. Of course S&P 500 index, many other mutual funds and various ETFs hold both. These companies have been abysmally mismanaged, severely injuring their public images, likely for years to come, and financially hurt their shareholders. The effect of TGT's merchandising what it has, especially in their children's wear section, is simply beyond the pale.


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