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Erider 05-26-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221198)

Who’s “they”? I assume you mean the big wheels at Bud. That is not where my concern lies. Those people never get hurt. Or if they, sort of, do, they walk away with millions. Nor are the investors the real losers because this, too, shall pass — for investors — but not for Bud workers if they lose jobs. Good jobs are the backbone of the overall economy. And, yet, taking them out is the goal of many in this thread.

Such noble concern all the little bud lite brewers and truckers. But don't worry! 100 million USA beer drinkers are not boycotting beer, just a particular brand. Bud's loss of sales volume is being picked up by their competitors>

Steep drops in sales of Bud Light continued to worsen for the sixth consecutive week, plunging by nearly 25% since the ill-fated promotion with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney, the latest industry data shows. Bud Light has lost $110 million in sales volume year-to-date compared to the same period last year. The number of Bud Light cases sold was down 28.4% in the week ended May 13 from a year ago compared to a 27.7% decline the previous week.

Meanwhile, Anheuser-Busch’s competitors are guzzling market share with Coors Light up 23.2% in the week ended May 13 compared to a bump of 22.2% the previous week. Sales of Modelo Especial – the second most popular beer brand in the US with more than $3.7 billion in sales last year – are up by 10% in the most recent week compared to a 5% increase the previous week.


So Bud Lite's loss is another brand's gain. So Coors will need more brewers and truckers providing jobs for all those poor little bud people. Isn't capitalism wonderful?

PS The big people do get hurt, especially if their compensation is heavily weighted towards stock options.

Bud Light Boycott Already Costs Anheuser-Busch $15.7 Billion

JMintzer 05-26-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2221171)
Aw, gee, I figured this thread might have boiled over in its own bile by now, but on it goes.

Oh well…..since I looked, while I am here, maybe one of the usuals can answer a couple of questions for me…….

How can all this wallowing in extreme joy at Bud losing sales be justified by those who like to parade themselves around here as capitalists to the 10th power who claim to be investors extraordinaire? —

(Yeah, they might not be directly invested in Bud — me neither — but how can these loud boycotters not understand that they are rooting against regular working people — many of whom might agree with the thinking by most here in this thread — but who have good jobs with Bud that they would like to keep.)

But (sigh) I must assume those ranting against Bud in this thread — as they stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — will explode in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who make the Bud and bottle the Bud and load the Bud and drive the Bud and stock the Bud.

Can any of you tell me how you can justify rooting against regular working people who have no control over a niche decision by their employer? So is possibly causing economic fallout in the lives of blameless workers worth it to you? How does that make you a capitalist who wants a strong overall economy? Huh?

And, btw, does the fact that Target employees working in the stores are being threatened also “spark joy” for you?

I just wish you hyped up, angry guys could look beyond the end of your…uh, er……noses and let go of this obsession.

Boomer

PS: I doubt I will get any answers to my rather pointed questions. I think I am on ignore lists for some because my contrary insight might have hurt their feelings. (Of course, I know this post I just quickly wrote for exercise is an exercise in futility…….Oh, what the hell, I think I will hit ‘submit’ this time instead of deleting.)

You want answers?

None of this is the employees' fault.

I feel for the regular employees, just like I felt for the employees who were targeted by the Chick Fil-A boycott (that failed miserably), and the Hobby Lobby boycott, or the My Pillow Guy Boycott... Did they not have employees that would be affected by a boycott?

Did those boycotting those places stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — exploding in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who work there?

No one working at Target is getting physically threatened... But it's a nice red herring. You can thank the media (AP) for that BS nugget...

I've seen a video of ONE GUY hit ONE sign with his palm as he walked by... SCARY!

You want to talk about real threats and violence? Look back at the Summer of 2020...

Stu from NYC 05-26-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2221243)
You want answers?

None of this is the employees' fault.

I feel for the regular employees, just like I felt for the employees who were targeted by the Chick Fil-A boycott (that failed miserably), and the Hobby Lobby boycott, or the My Pillow Guy Boycott... Did they not have employees that would be affected by a boycott?

Did those boycotting those places stand around in their circle, beating their drums, gazing only into each other’s eyes — exploding in ecstasy if job losses happen for those who work there?

No one working at Target is getting physically threatened... But it's a nice red herring. You can thank the media (AP) for that BS nugget...

I've seen a video of ONE GUY hit ONE sign with his palm as he walked by... SCARY!

You want to talk about real threats and violence? Look back at the Summer of 2020...

The media wants us to forgot about the summer of 2020 as well as 9/11.

manaboutown 05-26-2023 06:47 PM

"Recent high-profile and controversial marketing decisions by Target and Bud Light are backfiring and burning shareholders in the process to the tune of a combined $28 billion."

Target, Bud Light investors lose billions on marketing misses | Fox Business

BrianL99 05-26-2023 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2221268)
"Recent high-profile and controversial marketing decisions by Target and Bud Light are backfiring and burning shareholders in the process to the tune of a combined $28 billion."

Target, Bud Light investors lose billions on marketing misses | Fox Business

Just my opinion, but the message I see in these ridiculous advertising decisions, is much more significant than the specifics of the issues.

We all knew this would happen. We knew that Millennials would eventually be in positions of responsibility and allowed to make decisions they weren't capable of making.

Most of us knew they are dumbest, most self-absorbed and naive generation in US history.

They are now proving it every day, by making moronic decisions, whether in business or politics.

Taltarzac725 05-26-2023 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2221281)
Just my opinion, but the message I see in these ridiculous advertising decisions, is much more significant than the specifics of the issues.

We all knew this would happen. We knew that Millennials would eventually be in positions of responsibility and allowed to make decisions they weren't capable of making.

Most of us knew they are dumbest, most self-absorbed and naive generation in US history.

They are now proving it every day, by making moronic decisions, whether in business or politics.

They are marketing to their age of people and it actually looks smart in the long run. The media is the cause of a lot of this boycotting and stuff. And that is usually to draw more viewers who are upset by these trivialities. FOX and their ilk know just how to trigger some people with what should be non-stories.

BrianL99 05-27-2023 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2221284)
They are marketing to their age of people and it actually looks smart in the long run. The media is the cause of a lot of this boycotting and stuff. And that is usually to draw more viewers who are upset by these trivialities. FOX and their ilk know just how to trigger some people with what should be non-stories.

They are marketing to a minuscule, marginal & irrelevant minority of a market, in the hope that their "wokeness" will translate to enhanced public perception of their businesses.

If folks really cared about the politics of the companies they support, Arm & Hammer would have been out of business 50+ years ago and Nike, 25 years ago.

mraines 05-27-2023 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2220623)
Amazing how executives have not learned from the bud disaster.

Amazing how intolerant some people can be.

Stu from NYC 05-27-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2221383)
Amazing how intolerant some people can be.

Or people learned right from wrong at an early age and do what they think is right and not what others tell them to do.

manaboutown 05-27-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2221284)
They are marketing to their age of people and it actually looks smart in the long run. The media is the cause of a lot of this boycotting and stuff. And that is usually to draw more viewers who are upset by these trivialities. FOX and their ilk know just how to trigger some people with what should be non-stories.

It has proven to be disastrous in the short run and it definitely does not look smart in the long run. Bud Light has probably lost market share for the foreseeable future. Target started losing customers when it opened its ladies rooms to use by men with all their male parts able to enter and use them by laughably claiming they identified as women. Yeah, right! Target is marketing to only a very small percentage of the population, those wanting LGBTQIA clothing for babies, toddlers and young children, perhaps to groom them? . Their marketing is repugnant to the vast majority of us which is why their sales and stocks are bombing. I for one am an extremely unhappy shareholder!

dewilson58 05-27-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2221383)
Amazing how intolerant some people can be.

Intolerant about publicly celebrating sin.

What other sin do we celebrate and take PRIDE in??

Michael 61 05-27-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2221429)
Intolerant about publicly celebrating sin.

What other sin do we celebrate and take PRIDE in??

I whole-heartedly agree with dewilson - I have bitten my tongue up to now on these threads about companies pandering to the trans community, but the bottom line for many of us that disagree is that we are Bible-believing Christians, who see many of these activities as sinful, and it would be contrary to our faith to celebrate such sinful acts. I think I speak for the majority of residents here in The Villages, but most are fearful of posting their beliefs, as they would probably be mocked, shamed and attempted to be silenced by a small minority, yet very vocal few that are intolerant and unaccepting of the majority that hold Christian beliefs.

manaboutown 05-27-2023 01:11 PM

Bud Light 24-pack sells for $3.49 in at least one store as sales tank: report | Fox Business

Taltarzac725 05-27-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2221304)
They are marketing to a minuscule, marginal & irrelevant minority of a market, in the hope that their "wokeness" will translate to enhanced public perception of their businesses.

If folks really cared about the politics of the companies they support, Arm & Hammer would have been out of business 50+ years ago and Nike, 25 years ago.

And where are these advertisements? From what I have seen they are in places where their target audience would look and not where anyone but someone who wants to stir up trouble would look.

JMintzer 05-27-2023 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2221284)
They are marketing to their age of people and it actually looks smart in the long run. The media is the cause of a lot of this boycotting and stuff. And that is usually to draw more viewers who are upset by these trivialities. FOX and their ilk know just how to trigger some people with what should be non-stories.

FOX News! Everybody drink!

And sure, losing $10 BIlLION in value is absolutely BRILLIANT in the long run...


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