Yeah, and you’re probably not a many time convicted felon like GF are you, either?

This is a bad joke, right? A police person who kneels on a ma's neck for nearly 9 minutes as the victim says "I can't breathe," must be found guilty of manslaughter, at the very least.

Floyd and the police officer worked together for years as bouncers at a bar. Rumor is counterfeit money was being washed at the bar.
Now for the interesting question. Was Floyd and the police officer into washing money together? What if Floyd told the officer he was going to be arrested with him?
There is more to this than we are seeing.

No!! They won’t.

Let the system work. We will C.

I certainly hope not. what are you judging this opinion on?

Do you have all the facts that will be brought to light? I don't understand how someone can make a statement like this unless they know al of the facts.

I don't have anymore facts than what has been reported in the media. One thing that I haven't seen brought up here however is the fact that Officer Chauvin and Mr Floyd had a history. From what I understand they worked together as security guards, had several arguments and threats had been made.

This was no mistake and not the first nor last black person to die from lack of oxygen by a choke hold.

Everyone knows if you stop oxygen to the brain you will die how much proof do you need.

Doctors don’t target black people to make mistakes on, way different.

How about the girl murdered in the fast food parking lot!

Let's reread that first sentence again ... "spoken like a true white person"

Racist thought that is well, simply despicable ... we need for guilty white liberals stop their self-abuse


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You are dreaming. They are going to hang these guys cause the BLM will once again riot, protest and stamp their feet if they don't. It doesn't matter if Floyd was high and crazy or a hardened criminal. They will be the fall guys no matter the truth or circumstances.

That’s what my mom told me too. But that still doesn’t excuse kneeing someone on their neck when he was handcuffed and it was 4 against one.

I agree with you but I’ll do you one better. When a governor makes a mistake and kills thousands he is never charged with a crime.

I may have misspoken. I don’t know that his carotid artery was occluded, but I believe an interruption in blood supply was on the autopsy. The point I was trying to make was even if Floyd’s airway was open, an interruption of blood supply may have contributed to his death. It sounded like Chauvin was making an effort to assess Floyd’s well being with the comment if he can talk he can breathe but may have overlooked the fact that the blood supply to his heart and brain may have been interrupted. Floyd would have been able to talk for a period of time depending on the severity of an occlusion. Read my later comment regarding Fentanyl. This may have been a much larger factor than put out in the media.

Sadly I have to agree with you. I hope we’re proven wrong.

BLM and ANTIFA are hoping that will happen so they have the excuse to loot and burn. BLM is a known Marxist/Communist group whose goal is to eliminate capitalism and turn our great country to sociaism/communism. They are doing this under the guise of black lives inequality. Are you racist? Do you know anyone who is? They all should be rounded up and jailed.

I’m disgusted by the replies I’m reading on this post. Just stop for 8 minutes and 46 seconds and imagine a knee pressed hard on your neck and you can’t move. All because of a counterfeit bill? Those who think the cop is innocent of murder is not paying any attention nor have any sense of reality.

True enough; nothing in the linked article was in quotes except when Leslie Stahl or Chief Arradondo were actually quoting someone else, just like in the 2 excerpts you included below. It turns out that the quote was actually from narration by Leslie Stahl (as opposed to the Q&A), which was not apparent in the transcript of the interview. The 2nd quote you included below says basically the same thing in the Chief's own words.
The Chief may or may not be called to testify at the trials. I'm sure the defense lawyers will use whatever video & witnesses they can to attempt to prove their clients' innocence.

It was quite obvious that the cop knew exactly what he was doing. It was cold blooded murder. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone else’s for that matter.

This is one of the goofiest, unfounded conspiracy theories yet in this entire episode. :MOJE_whot: :eek:

That was 100% Chauvin’s intention.
 

It is about time this bad cop is locked up, Sadly there’s folks out there thinking he should get off I’ll assume they are former law officers. I’m hoping all involved in that murder end up in prison and in general population. Then justice will be served. And NO I am not a person angry at our fine men in law enforcement that we pay to enforce the law,
I’m sickened by the ones that try to protect the ones that are corrupt and dirty. They seem to forget what goes around comes around if another officer breaks the law its their duty to uphold the law. But from the beginning they’re taught to look the other way and don’t cross that blue line.
That makes them as corrupt as their brother.:ohdear:

Might want to be more careful in the use of quotation marks for words that were never said. There is no doubt that Floyd resisted officer instructions verbally and physically. That doesn't mean the officers will be exonerated.

amen

Confused
 

I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed that’s why I guess I’m so confused. Many folks say that Chauvin should burn in hell for his negligence. Others say he was negligent in the course of his duty and unfortunately a person died but he should be exonerated. The reason I’m confused is because we’ve seen this before and the process was completely different. On July 18, 1969 in a small town in MA a young girl was in a car driven by a person that was allegedly drunk. The driver went off the road into a pond. The girl was submerged in water and therefore denied access to air for a lot longer than 9 minutes. The driver never attempted to rescue the girl, he simply got out of the car and left the scene. He never called for an ambulance as Chauvin did. The driver allegedly went home to sober up and met with others to formulate a plan to mitigate the damages. The driver did not return to the scene of the accident until the next morning. The girl was dead due to his negligence. Floyd was dead due to Chauvin’s negligence. Chauvin lost his job and has been charged with murder. The driver never lost his job and was never charged with murder. The driver was, however, punished by losing the possibility of a promotion. Maybe losing the possibility of a promotion for one person equated to a murder charge for another person. Again, I’m not the sharpest tool, so could someone explain why Chauvin is so guilty of a crime by many, yet that driver was so not guilty of a crime by many. Maybe I just don’t understand the meaning of negligence. Maybe the girl resisted the driver more violently than Floyd resisted Chauvin.

"I’m sickened by the ones that try to protect the ones that are corrupt and dirty."

That statement goes directly to the heart of the problem. While we have seen posts from a number of those claiming to have been law enforcement officers, I seem to have missed any of them saying they have turned one of their own in or that they disagreed with their union protecting the corrupt, racist, bigoted or generally bad cops. Why is that?

I don't know about the details of this conspiracy theory, but Chauvin and Floyd did have a history.

I believe that it has been reported that they argued and didn't get along. I don't know anything about the money laundering aspect of this, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that this history had something to do with the killing.

Could someone please tell me what the evidence is that the George Floyd incident was racially motivated? Thanks.

Just the opposite....listen to the whole tape that came out....

Why are you people making excuses for the cop. He was dead wrong....

Why post something like this? You have no way of knowing anything about the prosecution of the officers or the process of jury selection or trial. You obviously made this post with the simply objective of inflaming emotions.

Why did you do that? Shameful.

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That’s not a reason to find them guilty. Well, I guess it is... a terrible reason!

I agree. They will be found guilty in a court of law and I hope they get the maximum sentence.

twinkie
 

Hey it's not any worse than the twinkie defense. Lawyers will try anything to defend. It's their job.

It is just one of very many possibilities

What is funny about these types of threads

1. The USA has a legal system where guilt or innocence is decided by a jury after seeing all the evidence.

2. Nevertheless, people continue to pronounce guilt or innocence based on media reports and only a portion of the evidence.

Lots of people were 100% sure Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin. Jury pronounced him innocent on all counts after seeing all the evidence.

Lots more people thought Michael Brown was murdered with his hands up by Officer Wilson. But it was all a lie. Brown wasn’t surrendering and didn’t say don’t shoot. And he wasn’t a victim of police misconduct. Rather than the “Gentle Giant” he was portrayed at in the media, he sucker punched Wilson while Wilson sat in his police car, tried to grab Wilson’s service pistol, and was shot when he charged Wilson a second time.

BLM movement was founded on these two cases.

Nobody here knows what will happen in the Floyd case yet because a jury hasn't been shown all the evidence yet.

good post

Yes, the defendants in the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown cases were not found guilty of any crime. But, their lives were still ruined. Not by the jury, but by the prosecutors who caved in to public opinion and protestors and charged cases that they could not prove. Prosecutors don't have the authority to declare someone guilty of a crime, but just by charging them and taking them to trial will ensure that they will be punished. Where is the accountability for the prosecutors? I don't think either one of these cases should have gone to trial.

Really, kneeling on a neck for 8.5 minutes is not murder. Sorry, not even close.

I read the autopsy and I do not see where it indicated that Floyd died because of the COPs. Bad COP or bad handling of the situation, does not mean there was any "malice" or "intent" which means that if anything the COPs could be convicted of manslaughter. I have seen dope heads on PCP take on seven trained COPs and injure several. I seen them injure themselves and not even notice broken bones. This guy was under the influence of some heavy stuff. His record indicated a violent nature, a criminal nature. Did he deserve to die? Not for anyone of us to judge that. Did his lifestyle prognosticate a tragic end to his miserable life?
I heard a statement from a young lady (Ms.Owens) recently that made sense. She said that the black community will champion or support the lowest element of blacks, whereas the white and other minority community champion and support the highest examples of good behavior. Floyd was NO martyr. He did not deserve a presidential style funeral, especially during these times of COVID-19 where funerals and large groups have been banned.
Hopefully, these COPs will get a fair trial and not a lynching or kangaroo court. You do not throw them under the bus, just for the sake of satisfying a misled group.

At least we know that Floyd's death will not be categorized as being COVID-19 related.

My (naive) interpretation of video. One policeman kneeling on uncooperative person. Another policeman looking around as if to look around to see can anyone see them. Guy on the ground saying, “I can’t breathe”. Nothing changes. Later guy on ground calls softly, “mama”. Nothing changes. That’s what I saw.

From that short video it looked like murder.