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Well I guess it's time to burn our Eric Clapton records once and for all.
Eric Clapton’s DIsgusting Racist Tirade | Dangerous Minds |
Well said
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Once history is re-written and evidence of slavery is removed, what will the gripe be then? I guess the divide in getting there will remain.
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It will end when decent, rational people rise up and make it end! Sitting around wringing our hands and lamenting the problem isn’t going to do it.
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Guilt?
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Right now I'm feeling a lot of sadness. Sadness for our country and all that is going on. |
The Duke
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Davem4616, this is just a BLM thing to tell the legal system who's boss or who they think is. They've got the legal system so scared that they're getting there way with their demands. Also it a strategy for to get one of the presidential candidates elected. Just my opinion! I agree with you totally, if what you say is true, I haven't heard this one yet! |
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Or those want to call all Mexican-Americans “Chicanos.” Only a small percentage like that. (Those who prefer it are usually highly political and anti-assimilationist.) I don’t mind calling people what they like to be called, but I’m opposed to being shamed into doing it or forced into doing it. The NYTimes yesterday had an article yesterday on whether black should be capitalized while white is not. The idea is that Black stands for activism and rebellion and trying to get power and pride and fighting back, but black does not. But what if we all just want to get along with each other? I believe in assimilation and integration. The better cooked the stew, the better the flavor mix. I’m opposed to separatism. A Debate Over Identity and Race Asks, Are African-Americans ‘Black’ or ‘black’? - The New York Times |
Slavery has been present nearly as long as civilization. Many groups, perhaps most, were enslaved throughout history. It was customary to raid, plunder, and enslave. This country was among the first to realize it is wrong and to abolish it. Since then the US has tried hard to give extra advantages to those who suffered through employment, school admissions, housing, financial programs, and continues to looks for more avenues.
So, all of this violence and agitation is about something else. |
Motion Picture Alliance of America
Let’s just set race aside for awhile. This was an organization that Wayne was about the 4th president of they were all about finding communists under every rug. They worked closely with the head commie hunter McCarthy . My father was brought before this committee . He had been a union organizer all over USA In the 1930’s and fought in the Spanish Civil War where he faced German troops years before Americans did. WhenWW2 started he probably wouldn’t have been drafted because of age but he went anyway , and when he parachuted in on D Day he was 37 . McCarthy and guys like Wayne had my father branded a communist and thrown out of a National Union Job for his union activities and fighting in Spain he was not bitter for himself he still had an iron workers union card but for all the people who were destroyed by McCarthy and men like Wayne who backed him , did my father and I still watch his movies yes , like he said there were worse offenders but I couldn’t care less about his name coming down , he went along with destroying many other names . While reading many post here I can’t help thinking that quite a lot of people here probably still think Joe McCarthy is a great guy . I read somewhere where he still has a statue in town . Hmmmmm maybe we should send someone out there hmmmm
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Also I was married to a hispanic lady from NM for 26 years. She has six siblings. No one in her family ever refers to themselves as Latino or Latina, ever. A DNA test showed she is about 28% American Indian which is probably par for the course over there as the Spanish started settling the area in 1598 or thereabouts. Recently some rioters tried to tear down a statue of Onate in Albuquerque and were stopped but the authorities did afterwards remove it. He and his outfit treated the Indians terribly and enslaved some. The area is tricultural: Indian, Hispanic and Anglo. While there are no doubt underlying tensions over many matters both past and present most folks get along most of the time and intermarriage is common and not even noteworthy. Interestingly enough, John Wayne was attracted to hispanic women. His widow, Pilar, now 91 years of age, is Peruvian and well loved in Newport Beach. |
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I came home for summer and watched TV with my family. My dad, who always said he prayed daily to God to be given a gift for understanding others, suddenly blurted out, "Send them all back [to Africa]." Nobody else in the family ever openly stated thoughts like that. Anyway, the number of Blacks that we knew were an extreme minority in NH. My dad had feet of clay, and I was shocked beyond belief and felt betrayed by him. I thought everybody in the family felt similarly about colored people, friendly, welcoming, something to offer as citizens. None of Dad's kids ever grew into the hatred part for any other people of color, to this very day. And, Boy, am I glad of that. Chip |
Rush no more
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I'd laugh if it weren't for the poverty of thought the government had to allow this to happen. It's like tearing the monument down by sullying it with politics. Chip |
Those same ones.....
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People who protest have more gumption than the rest of us who give lip service only and yell at the TV for irregularities in governance. AT LEAST SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING THAT OTHERS ARE NOT WILLING OR ABLE TO. Chip |
I can do waaaaay better than that..
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Yeah, they should name it "We are the stupidest state in the U.S." airport!! That way, at least it fits California!
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The silliness of all this statue removals and name changing is getting in the way of the real message. Unfortunately the USA has had racism imbedded in our culture for hundreds of years. Even if we begin now, it will take generations to mute those habits and feelings. Changing statues, names, logos, etc. won’t help al that much.
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Happy Trails John Wayne Airport
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And how about Princeton? Several presidents of the U.S. including Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have been repeatedly referenced as continuing the tradition of Wilsonianism in America. Guess anything related to any of them needs to go too. Costa Rica might be lookin' better and better |
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Maybe they should rename all the airports. Just give them a number. “I’m flying out of Airport # 327 and landing at Airport # 723.” Then they can start on the State names and then the city names in the same way. Las Vegas Has dibs on City #69.
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Agree.
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If we want to improve over the past how does it help to remove all mentions of it?
We should study the past and understand what earlier times were like and how we are better as a nation and how we can continuously improve. |
A system can not be changed until all vestiges of the previous system are completely erased. This started as protests against the police killing of George Floyd, but the current focus is to destroy our economic and governmental systems and anything that is representative of those systems. BLM is a Marxist organization. I'm not saying that, the co-founder (Patrisse Khan-Cullors) of that organization says that.
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Facts are always fun. I have no idea what racist words Mr. Wayne may have uttered in his 30's but your posting of his age was a bit off. He was born in 1909 thus was in his early 60's when those words were spoken. |
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His movies did a lot of good for us during the war and he should be honored for that. |
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Esperanza Baur - Wikipedia |
I'm with you my friend. I'm a big-time John Wayne fan. This is too ridiculous to believe even in these insane times.
I used to live near Disneyland in Orange County, Ca. I think now, the entire state of California has become a Disneyland. This is not the first time "they" wanted to change the name of the airport. I'm just waiting till five o'clock to start my happy hour at my home bar. At least my mind can get a little rest for a few hours. WHEN WILL ALL THE INSANITY END? |
I lived in Costa Rica for eighteen years and loved mostly everything. If things don't go right in November (God help us!), I may move back.
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We should all feel it is wrong and do our best to make everyone live on an equal playing field. Idiotic that people today who were never slaves should ask people who never owned slaves to pay reparations. |
Utter and complete stupidity.
I am beginning to believe the special interest minority groups are purposely research and targeting that which will pi$$ off most Americans. Next? Snow White? National Anthem? American Flag? Apple pie? The tail is vigorously wagging the dog!!!! Has not a :censored: thing to do with making anybody's life matter. Disgusting and sad. |
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Flew in and out of that airport many times in the 90's. Since Orange County was a conservative enclave back then I just figured that naming it John Wayne was just a reflection of that fact. Never gave it much of a thought after that. Plus it sure did beat LAX.
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