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Viperguy 06-06-2020 09:38 AM

How about a peaceful protest for all the cops that have been beaten up or killed?

ColdNoMore 06-06-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cgilcreast (Post 1778440)
How about a peaceful protest for all the cops that have been beaten up or killed?

No one is stopping you...from starting/organizing one.

Just advertise the time and place and I'll (along with many others I'm sure)...will join you.
:thumbup:

Topspinmo 06-06-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776362)
:thumbup:...:thumbup:...:thumbup:


Given that many studies have shown that in general, the younger generations are a lot less racist, bigoted, xenophobic and misogynistic than the large numbers of old white folks, who will be dying out in coming years...there's still hope for this country. :ho:

Nobody gets out do this world alive. All younger generations have different views than mom, dad, and gramps. Nothing new here except?????

ffresh 06-06-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1776673)
I'd like to tell a true story.

When I first came to TV, the neighborhood men got together once a month for lunch and invited someone to come speak. It was a sheriff's deputy one month. He suggested we call the Sheriff's Office to request a free safety assessment of our houses. I did and a deputy came to my house. He showed me some things I could do to make it more difficult for someone to break into my house.

After that, he warned me to stay east of the railroad tracks in Wildwood because people were dangerous on the other side. He then said, and I quote verbatim, "Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL minorities are bad." There is no doubt in my mind that he was as racist as they get.

How would you like to be one of the (I'm sure) many good people living west of 301 knowing this racist was walking around with a gun and a hatred for them?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think ALL cops are bad. ;-)

But there sure seem to be a lot of them here in central Florida.
:-(

How is your utterance any different? Or, is it because you inserted a smiley?

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecenturian (Post 1776898)
I will say that while 1 life is too tragic, look at these FACTS. and they are according to the Washington Post own research. “Systemic Racism” is so overused. This cop was and AHole before he became a cop and I bet the good cops that worked with him probably thought he was an AHole while he was a cop. It’s not a cop thing it’s a personal thing.

In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

Thanks for your excellent post citing FACTS, not emotional rants like so many others.

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1776923)
Sorry, I would have a hard time working with an organization that displays a closed fist on its posters. That's not exactly a peace symbol.

To be precise, the clenched fist is a revolutionary and communist gesture.

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1776989)
Thank you for interjecting some FACTS into this discussion. Now get ready to duck, since there are several posters, and we all know who they are, that will call you a racist, or that you are defending a murderous cop, or that you are "complicit" in what happened. Just ignore them.
No different than those that post the facts of Floyd's criminal record. No, that record does not justify what happened, but the media is busy trying to canonize him as a saint when he has a record of violent felonies. Now, there I've done it, I'll get called a racist as well

Certainly not by me :)

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1777060)
Just do a search of his previous posts, and you will quickly find out that HE REALLY SAID THAT:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Please permit me to add my $.02 :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1777079)
I have to agree with you. There is one particular network on TV that caters to young people where EVERY couple is either black and white, Asian and white or gay. Kind of hard for the younger generation to be bigoted when the norm is dictated by a liberal Hollywood media.
Our parents were of the Greatest Generation and succeeding generations have become weaker and weaker. Say what you will about the Greatest Generation being wrong in their racial bearing, they were still the GREATEST generation.
And before anyone suggests that my statement is bigoted, I come from a multi-ethnicity family. I have hopes for the next generation, but am also glad that I do not believe I will be around to see them go through their trials and obstacles to keep this country great. Thank goodness. I am sure that if my parents could see us now, they would also be shaking their heads.

Shaking their heads … they're probably spinning in their graves :ohdear:

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1777088)
So do you think they will be convicted?

To be frank, if they were going up before an Internal Affairs board, I would be skeptical. But, presuming that a jury will be given all the known facts, and weigh them carefully, I believe that a just verdict will be rendered - in spite of whether people who have NOT heard all the known facts agree with it or not.

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1777222)
but as far as stress level then it's fourth: The 10 most stressful jobs

Enlisted military personnel of three or four years
Firefighter:
Airline pilot:
Police officer:

so though statistics may show that they are less "dangerous" they are probably more stressful because of the potential that exists.

as the daughter of a policeman, I can only tell you what I saw. My father saw people at their worst. He was unbelievable strict with his children because of what he saw being done by others kids. It was not a fun childhood. at the time he worked as a police officer they walked beats and they rotated shifts every 6 weeks which they now know is unhealthy for one's body clock. now people have assigned shifts. And he was this way back in a time when policemen were respected and people did what they said. now they are taunted and called all sorts of names when they are trying to help. my father only pulled his gun once in his career--someone actually was stealing his car from in front of the police station. My brother, also a cop, was in knife fights, etc. more than once. and this was in upstate NY, not some teaming metropolis.

I think there should be regular mandatory counseling because I think seeing the worst day after day does something to you. you forget the millions of decent people who live quiet, lawful lives.

I agree with you and empathize with your experiences growing up. But, to be accurate, my response was in regards to the popular misconception of police officer being a "dangerous job". I don't think it's a leap of faith to surmise that there are many stresses to being an LEO but that holds true for many other professions, as well, some of which you enumerated. I certainly was not attempting to belittle the role that all of the GOOD police officers play in our society, merely pointing out a fact about the dangers of the job. Logging is counted as the most dangerous, airline pilot, as you noted (my former profession before retirement) as 3rd, while LEO ranks as 14th. But, again, we're talking about lethality, not stress.

Fred

shopnstop 06-06-2020 02:56 PM

Yeh look for me!

Bay Kid 06-07-2020 07:23 AM

Peaceful Disruption. Destruction. Killing. Robbery.


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