Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2368338)

General George Patton wore either Colt 45 or SW 357 revolvers during war. That was good enough for him. Should be more than enough fire power for any gun loving civilian, imho.

Originally Posted by FredMitchell (Post 2368306)

Off topic^ Reread the title of the post.

Also very shallow thinking. Spouse murdered in vehicular homicide - outlaw guns?, cars? Murdered by knife. guns or knifes? Murdered with single shot shotgun, military style weapons?

Weak conclusion due to shallow thought process.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2368334)

The parent isn't being held responsible for the child's actions. The parent is being held responsible for their own actions, which created the opportunity for the child to commit the crime. The child is also being held responsible for his own actions and will be tried as an adult.

The child was 14 years old. He should not have had access to any firearm, and at age 14 his parents ARE responsible for their children, 24/7. Colin Grey, the father, KNOWINGLY allowed his son to possess a gun.

This is only the second time in the history of this country that a parent was charged in connection with a crime committed by their minor child.

Colt Gray, the kid, was charged with 4 counts of murder. Colin Gray, the father, was charged with involuntary manslaughter and 2nd degree murder. So yes - the father is being charged with lesser crimes. Dad put the gun in the kid's hand. The kid pulled the trigger. All is as it should be, with regards to who is being charged for what.

When it's your own grandchild who dies, would you prefer thoughts first, or prayers first? Or - will you want to punish the father who admitted to giving his 14-year-old kid a semi-automatic weapon AND the 14-year-old kid who chose to use it to kill your grandchild?

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2367774)

2nd Amendment says right to a well armed militia and not the individual's right to own military style weapons.

Originally Posted by FredMitchell (Post 2368297)

To avoid "Liar liar pants on fire" fact check, support this seemingly absurd statement with evidence.

Originally Posted by dsgreen3 (Post 2368305)

Many "gangbangers" don't know who their daddy is!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2367726)

Absolutely. The reason that kids under 18 cannot PURCHASE firearms is because (IMO) the law believes that they haven't yet developed, or have been taught, the sense of responsibility to OWN (or at least to have unfettered access to) firearms.

Unfortunately firearm possession and handling is far from the only area that irresponsible parenting is causing others to suffer from that irresponsibility.

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2368380)

True, but the threat of putting Momma in prison over their action would be quite a deterrent. Gangbangers assume they will be dead or in prison by 30, so they don't care. But if the penalty was their beloved mother serving 10 years, they would think twice prior to committing a felony.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2368342)

I would like an end to bullying and for mental health care and facilities provided to the mentally ill and children removed from homes where care is minimal and caretakers are drug addicted and demented. Let us use the financial resources of this country for it's people first.

The anti-faith jabs are getting very annoying.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2368338)

General George Patton wore either Colt 45 or SW 357 revolvers during war. That was good enough for him. Should be more than enough fire power for any gun loving civilian, imho.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2368389)

That’s cause there was no Tec 9s

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2368396)

This evening we have an ongoing situation on I-75 where a person is randomly shooting at cars. Person of interest is a white male in his 30s who today bought an AR 15 and 2000 rounds of ammo. Only in America. Thank you Clarence Thomas, Thank you Federalist Society, Thank you NRA. Thoughts and prayers for everybody. A hunting gun, for hunting humans.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2367720)

Finally, irresponsible parent(s) are being held liable and charged. Hopefully this may affect these horrible shootings by troubled kids.

BTW Dr Phil had a wonderful episode on this topic. He, and other leaders may have an impact to alleviate these shootings. His stats show that 94% of these shooters had told other students or posted their plans.