Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Current Events and News (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/)
-   -   Portable morgues-Central Florida Hospitals (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/portable-morgues-central-florida-hospitals-323473/)

coffeebean 08-31-2021 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997291)
Well, coffeebean, all you gotta do is go to your computer search engine, as I just did, and type in "Carnegie-Mellon study on vaccine hesitancy."

I don't get on this site much, but today I am tiring of folks telling me that ivermectin didn't save India and the Carnegie-Mellon study is BS.

I would suggest you folk start reading a different newspaper quickly instead of listening to main stream media.

BTW, I do accept both of your apologies in advance.

I looked at the study. Makes no sense at all. Here is one apology. Not sure what the other one is supposed to be for.

Bill14564 08-31-2021 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997260)
Carnegie-Mellon U in Pittsburgh recently completed a 5 MILLION person survey in which they were trying to determine who were resistant to the Covid vaccines. Unlike the false narrative spread by the main stream media, the survey concluded that the most resistant group to the vaccines were not blacks, Latinos, Trump conservatives, hut the highly educated.

Kinda explains some of the comments on this site by the vaxxers.

That's a poor interpretation of the results.

The least change in vaccine hesitancy in the Education group found during the study was with PhDs. Even then, their overall vaccine hesitance was about 25%. On the other hand, Race, Trump Vote Share, and Age showed groups with hesitancies up to 35%.

Bill14564 08-31-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997291)
Well, coffeebean, all you gotta do is go to your computer search engine, as I just did, and type in "Carnegie-Mellon study on vaccine hesitancy."

I don't get on this site much, but today I am tiring of folks telling me that ivermectin didn't save India and the Carnegie-Mellon study is BS.

I would suggest you folk start reading a different newspaper quickly instead of listening to main stream media.

BTW, I do accept both of your apologies in advance.

And you should read more than just the articles that agree with your favored position. There is more than a little disagreement with the assertion that Ivermectin saved India.

golfing eagles 08-31-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997284)
golfingeagles--Here's your slightest shred. Go to Paul Craig Robert's home page, look down to recently published articles. I will repeat--ivermectin saved India, a country of 1 billion people. You can get ivermectin at Walgreen's for about $40. Oh, and thanks for asking for the evidence.

That's even less than a shred----Paul Craig Roberts????? He's insane. And he is an ECONOMIST----just the person to pontificate about a virus. Try harder.

golfing eagles 08-31-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997291)
Well, coffeebean, all you gotta do is go to your computer search engine, as I just did, and type in "Carnegie-Mellon study on vaccine hesitancy."

I don't get on this site much, but today I am tiring of folks telling me that ivermectin didn't save India and the Carnegie-Mellon study is BS.

I would suggest you folk start reading a different newspaper quickly instead of listening to main stream media.

BTW, I do accept both of your apologies in advance.

Well, I'd get used to it. That's kind of like getting tired of people telling you the sky is blue or 1+1=2.

blueash 08-31-2021 02:11 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997291)
Well, coffeebean, all you gotta do is go to your computer search engine, as I just did, and type in "Carnegie-Mellon study on vaccine hesitancy."

I don't get on this site much, but today I am tiring of folks telling me that ivermectin didn't save India and the Carnegie-Mellon study is BS.

I would suggest you folk start reading a different newspaper quickly instead of listening to main stream media.

BTW, I do accept both of your apologies in advance.

I took your suggestion and googled the study. I then took the extra step to actually read the study and look at the tables and figures. I have copied the one that related to education and vaccine hesitancy for your edification, if that is possible.

For starters, look near the bottom where the authors analyzed the responses to this facebook survey by self reported educational status. Keep in mind that anyone could enter any status they liked to mess with the data.

The data is normed to 1.0 using the hesitancy of those who completed a full 4 yr college education as the standard. Those who completed up to but no more than high school had a relative risk of being vaccine hesitant of 1.89. In everyday terms that means those people were 89% more likely to decline vaccines than a 4 yr college grad.

Those who started but did not complete college were 67% more likely to decline shots. Those who got a masters degree were 27% less likely to decline shots.

Those with what the table calls "professional degrees" eg MD JD [but doesn't tell us what the exact wording used on the survey may have been] were 3% more likely to be hesitant. And those with "doctorates" which represented 1.9% of the self reported participants were 35% more likely than 4 yr college grads to be hesitant.

Thus your statement that
Quote:

the survey concluded that the most resistant group to the vaccines were not blacks, Latinos, Trump conservatives, hut the highly educated.
is wrong, wrong, wrong. The most highly resistant by education is the group with 12 grade or less education.

The vaccine hesitancy ethnicity is highest in absolute numbers in white survey participants, with this number entirely related to the higher number of Trump supporters who were white. The data is all there. Some TOTV readers understand how to read and analyze data, some don't

I'll await your apology.

jimjamuser 08-31-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1997242)
For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

I agree. Thank you for a very excellent post!

jimjamuser 08-31-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1997244)
Good information to know in case anyone needs one. :a040:

Some comments might be considered to denigrate Americans that have died?

MDLNB 08-31-2021 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1997342)
Some comments might be considered to denigrate Americans that have died?


Where? Did someone denigrate the dead? If so, did the dead complain or just someone looking for anything to argue about?

lisafolker@gmail.com 08-31-2021 06:57 PM

I’m sorry. Where are you getting your news? This seems like a very sheltered opinion of a world-wide PANDEMIC!

John41 08-31-2021 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1997272)
Thank you and can't agree more. I've had the pleasure of his company twice at dinners, and he is highly intelligent, well informed and personable. I just love the people on this site who call him all kinds of names and don't even know him.

Please provide us with a list of famous people you’ve dined with so we’ll know whom to trust. Thank you

Bay Kid 09-01-2021 06:22 AM

Who do you trust anymore? We get lied to so often.

golfing eagles 09-01-2021 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1997463)
Please provide us with a list of famous people you’ve dined with so we’ll know whom to trust. Thank you

You don't need the whole list. People just need to know what Fauci is like in person so as to not denigrate him with wildly inaccurate posts.

coffeebean 09-01-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1997328)
I took your suggestion and googled the study. I then took the extra step to actually read the study and look at the tables and figures. I have copied the one that related to education and vaccine hesitancy for your edification, if that is possible.

For starters, look near the bottom where the authors analyzed the responses to this facebook survey by self reported educational status. Keep in mind that anyone could enter any status they liked to mess with the data.

The data is normed to 1.0 using the hesitancy of those who completed a full 4 yr college education as the standard. Those who completed up to but no more than high school had a relative risk of being vaccine hesitant of 1.89. In everyday terms that means those people were 89% more likely to decline vaccines than a 4 yr college grad.

Those who started but did not complete college were 67% more likely to decline shots. Those who got a masters degree were 27% less likely to decline shots.

Those with what the table calls "professional degrees" eg MD JD [but doesn't tell us what the exact wording used on the survey may have been] were 3% more likely to be hesitant. And those with "doctorates" which represented 1.9% of the self reported participants were 35% more likely than 4 yr college grads to be hesitant.

Thus your statement that is wrong, wrong, wrong. The most highly resistant by education is the group with 12 grade or less education.

The vaccine hesitancy ethnicity is highest in absolute numbers in white survey participants, with this number entirely related to the higher number of Trump supporters who were white. The data is all there. Some TOTV readers understand how to read and analyze data, some don't

I'll await your apology.

Thank you for the analysis. I just KNEW those results did not make any sense and I believe I did say that but I did not break it down like you did. Thank you, again.

Ksfirefighter 09-01-2021 01:43 PM

Portable Morgues
 
More than a dozen portable morgues coming to Central Florida after hospital units reach capacity – WFTV

14 Portable Morgues that hold 12 bodies each.
If this fixes the problem then it’s not a huge problem.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.