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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-12-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1783004)
We have too many retired LEO's and Military; that would not happen.

True - the retired LEOs and Military would beat them to it and create their OWN well-armed militia, scaring all the peaceful resisters away and leaving them only with violence to deal with.

Crazy how that mindset works, ain't it?

ColdNoMore 06-12-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1783006)
True - the retired LEOs and Military would beat them to it and create their OWN well-armed militia, scaring all the peaceful resisters away and leaving them only with violence to deal with.

Crazy how that mindset works, ain't it?

If you're a hammer...everything looks like a nail. :shrug:

600th Photo Sq 06-12-2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1783001)
Therein lies the real fear of Antifa...by certain folks. :ohdear:

I have been to many, many 3rd world countries with my profession.

My advice to you take a trip to Venezuela for say 2 weeks, you will definitely get a wake up call.

That said you simply you just don't get it, so basically it is pointless discussing facts with you.

Like a scratch in a old record.

But why ?

Soxman 06-12-2020 07:38 PM

There is NO government in Seattle.

ColdNoMore 06-12-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1783014)
I have been to many, many 3rd world countries with my profession.

My advice to you take a trip to Venezuela for say 2 weeks, you will definitely get a wake up call.

That said you simply you just don't get it, so basically it is pointless discussing facts with you.

Like a scratch in a old record.

But why ?

I just dislike Fascists, dictator's...and dictator wannabe's.

The same goes for despots and authoritarian leaders...come to think of it.

Does that make me a bad person?
:1rotfl:

billethkid 06-12-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxman (Post 1783021)
There is NO government in Seattle.

All one has to do is listen to the mayor.
The governor? Zero so far!

Steve9930 06-12-2020 10:06 PM

There is a story that the Hell's Angels and the Moguls are on their way to remove these people.

anothersteve 06-12-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1783062)
There is a story that the Hell's Angels and the Moguls are on their way to remove these people.

Let's hope someone does something.
Steve

tophcfa 06-12-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1782275)
For all you pro-CHAZers, what if this would happen at the Morse / 466 gate?

That would be very interesting. With all the very well trained and armed retired military and law enforcement living in the Villages, I would guess the disturbance would not last long at all.

anothersteve 06-12-2020 10:18 PM

You can sure tell who the real sympathizes are, posters and non posters. Again pitifull
Steve

Kenswing 06-12-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1783069)
That would be very interesting. With all the very well trained and armed retired military and law enforcement living in the Villages, I would guess the disturbance would not last long at all.

Just wait.. You're going to hear something about a hammer and a nail.. :1rotfl:

anothersteve 06-12-2020 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1783071)
Just wait.. You're going to hear something about a hammer and a nail.. :1rotfl:

Again!
Steve

tophcfa 06-12-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1782979)
A political slanted account.
Right up front stating conservatives and the POTUS "...have a problem...".

Does that translate into the liberals and their politicians have no problem with what is going on?

If one is OK with it being in Seattle then it is OK if something similar were to happen on one or all of the town squares here in TV.
It would be OK if a similar group took over your village and you would have to submit to an ID check to get to your home.

BS! Set the :censored: politics aside. It is wrong.

If some clown that was not a law enforcement officer asked to see my ID so I could go to my home, I would tell them I am happy to pull out my ID. Whoops, that isn't my ID, that is my Sig Sauer.

anothersteve 06-12-2020 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1783029)
I just dislike Fascists, dictator's...and dictator wannabe's.

The same goes for despots and authoritarian leaders...come to think of it.

Does that make me a bad person?
:1rotfl:

Maybe just sympathetic to their cause?
Steve

Kenswing 06-12-2020 10:32 PM

Seattle Police Chief: ‘We’re Not Able to Get to’ 911 Calls for ‘Rape, Robbery’ in Autonomous Zone

“You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision,” Best told her fellow officers. “You fought for days to protect it. I asked you to stand on that line. Day in and day out, to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened and in some cases hurt. Then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in, it seems like an insult to you and our community.”

On Wednesday, the Seattle Police Department said it would try to reopen the East Precinct, and Best was able to visit the location on Thursday. “Our calls for service have more than tripled,” she told reporters. “These are responses to emergency calls — rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that we’re not able to get to.”

anothersteve 06-12-2020 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1783077)
Seattle Police Chief: ‘We’re Not Able to Get to’ 911 Calls for ‘Rape, Robbery’ in Autonomous Zone

“You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision,” Best told her fellow officers. “You fought for days to protect it. I asked you to stand on that line. Day in and day out, to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened and in some cases hurt. Then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in, it seems like an insult to you and our community.”

On Wednesday, the Seattle Police Department said it would try to reopen the East Precinct, and Best was able to visit the location on Thursday. “Our calls for service have more than tripled,” she told reporters. “These are responses to emergency calls — rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that we’re not able to get to.”

Freaking whimp!
Steve

Stu from NYC 06-13-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1783071)
Just wait.. You're going to hear something about a hammer and a nail.. :1rotfl:

That does get boring after awhile. He needs a new line.

Bay Kid 06-13-2020 06:53 AM

Such an embarrassment. Leaders that allow their city to be taken over by thugs. Don't these people ever work?

Timothyimitchell 06-13-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1782757)
IMHO the situation in Seattle has nothing to with improving racial relations or trying to resolve racial bias in order to achieve mutual respect and understanding. Instead, I see radical terrorist ideology using an army to take over a city. This is an act of war, not a protest.
One has to wonder what ties to other terrorist groups, like ISIS, Boko haram or others, they may have. Which groups, organizations have organized and funded this horror.
In this instance I do not believe that there is true desire for a peaceful dialogue on the part of the terrorists. Once they see how far they can go they will sue for peace, only to move on to new territory and start over again, with ever increasing violence and terror.
Like a blackmailer, once they get you to bend to their will, the demands and threats only increase.
This can not and will not end well, I am afraid. It's like a deadly cancer and the treatment will be painful and recovery will take a long time. And, like cancer we will have to be more vigilant in monitoring the patient and react immediately and decisively to any re-occurrence.
Again, this is not, imho, an attempt to promote racial unity and harmony. It can only be viewed as a tactic used to create discord and devide us during this trying time.

You're a smart person. This is the correct answer.

Bay Kid 06-14-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1783236)
I suppose it’s up to the people of Seattle to take back their city. Or they can live with what they voted in. I hope President Trump does not bail out any city!

We, the taxpayers, should not pay to rebuild anything they destroyed. Let the useless mayors and governors figure it out for themselves. Maybe they can get some of their protesters to go to work, not.

anothersteve 06-14-2020 09:02 AM

So tell me again....is it antifa or blm that hates America?

Mob of CHAZ residents call black man a "race traitor" for carrying the American flag : ActualPublicFreakouts

I will never capitalize those initials.

Steve

Topspinmo 06-14-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1783228)
Such an embarrassment. Leaders that allow their city to be taken over by thugs. Don't these people ever work?

No, and won’t be for awhile cause they make more Collecting unemployment.

Steve9930 06-14-2020 10:50 AM

What you have in CHAZ is nothing more then a bunch of spoiled brats that contribute nothing to society. I say let them have their experiment they just might learn the truth about what they preach. Cur off all services, including Cell and Internet. Line the out side with a barrier. Nothing in and nothing out. Have fun kids. You want to play, lets play.

Number 10 GI 06-14-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1783205)
That does get boring after awhile. He needs a new line.

Yeah, one trick ponies get boring after awhile.

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1784101)
What you have in CHAZ is nothing more then a bunch of spoiled brats that contribute nothing to society. I say let them have their experiment they just might learn the truth about what they preach. Cur off all services, including Cell and Internet. Line the out side with a barrier. Nothing in and nothing out. Have fun kids. You want to play, lets play.

The problem with that is it will probably spawn more copycats.

Steve9930 06-14-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784155)
The problem with that is it will probably spawn more copycats.

Maybe, maybe not. When you have no fresh water, no sanitation, no food, no heat, light, internet, cell phone, I think they will rethink what they are dong. They have no leadership just slogans and passion. So give them a taste of reality.

anothersteve 06-14-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1784174)
Maybe, maybe not. When you have no fresh water, no sanitation, no food, no heat, light, internet, cell phone, I think they will rethink what they are dong. They have no leadership just slogans and passion. So give them a taste of reality.

More like a taste of Venezuela.
Steve

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1784174)
Maybe, maybe not. When you have no fresh water, no sanitation, no food, no heat, light, internet, cell phone, I think they will rethink what they are dong. They have no leadership just slogans and passion. So give them a taste of reality.

Very possibly but could see some idiots trying to smuggle in food and other basic necessities.

Steve9930 06-14-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1784180)
More like a taste of Venezuela.
Steve

Their own words say you are leaving the USA. So therefore we need a contract to provide services. This to me is a failure of two institutions, parenting and education. Its like anything else in life when you have no skin in the game, you do not respect it or take care of it. So its time for a life lesson. I'd refuse to let them leave either. If they are a separate country they need an agreement for immigration. like I said, they want to play, let's play....:icon_wink:

Lottoguy 06-14-2020 04:18 PM

Yep, and what kind of leaders lead those countries?

600th Photo Sq 06-14-2020 06:17 PM

The present situation calls for calm and let this thing play out.

Sooner rather than later these knuckleheads will get the message and give up, with the exception of a tiny few.

Using force is the easy way, these clowns have no idea, just let them exist on their present environment they will give up …..soon

billethkid 06-14-2020 09:44 PM

The chief of police can help set the direction if she does her job sooner than later.

However, if the mayor decides to send in food, water, medical supplies it will not go away.
The demands will eventually go beyond basics.
The average citizenry both inside and outside will soon decide, enough is enough and recall/fire/toss out the mayor.

Northwoods 06-15-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1782548)
Take away all the media coverage....No one will give a poop

:bigbow:

Stu from NYC 06-15-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1784372)
The chief of police can help set the direction if she does her job sooner than later.

However, if the mayor decides to send in food, water, medical supplies it will not go away.
The demands will eventually go beyond basics.
The average citizenry both inside and outside will soon decide, enough is enough and recall/fire/toss out the mayor.

One would hope she gets tossed out on her can.

BS Beef 06-15-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1783062)
There is a story that the Hell's Angels and the Moguls are on their way to remove these people.

Wishful thinking. Why would they care one way or another. It’s not their battle. Certainly is entertaining to think about though

Bay Kid 06-16-2020 06:58 AM

The thugs have put up walls, beat people that don't agree with them, threatened business owners and kicked people out. BUT they still need us to take care of them. DS

Steve9930 06-16-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BS Beef (Post 1784961)
Wishful thinking. Why would they care one way or another. It’s not their battle. Certainly is entertaining to think about though

The Hell's Angels thing was debunked but there is a group planning to retake the area on July 4th. I believe before this is over there will be violence there by two different groups. This should never have been allowed to get to this point. Protesting is a constitutional right, Anarchy is an insurrection. They should be removed from the area and charged accordingly.

Stu from NYC 06-16-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1785240)
The Hell's Angels thing was debunked but there is a group planning to retake the area on July 4th. I believe before this is over there will be violence there by two different groups. This should never have been allowed to get to this point. Protesting is a constitutional right, Anarchy is an insurrection. They should be removed from the area and charged accordingly.

They should be removed, by force if necessary and held accountable for their actions.

Sooner better than later.

LI SNOWBIRD 06-16-2020 10:31 AM

Is the answer in the past...1985: When Philly police dropped a bomb on a residential neighborhood. I don't think so.

billethkid 06-16-2020 10:40 AM

If those in charge have not acted by now. Forget it.
What is going to change their mind.

Let it burn itself out or take over the rest of the city.
Those with any sense will move out.

What makes anyone think the criminals and thugs will be happy being contained in the existing area?
What happens when there is not sufficient sanitation to support tent city living?
What will they do as food is not sufficiently available?

Just to mention a few.

The mayor and governor have let the clock run. They now have adopted the criminal element as part of their constituency.
We will see what they do at budget time when there is a significant short fall.

Whether the mayor and governor realize it or not they have crested the hill and are sliding full speed ahead downward.


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