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Vermilion Villager 04-24-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmurrell (Post 2210678)
This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

Wa-Alaikum-Salaam:beer3:

Tobys Dad 04-24-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2210591)
There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

You nailed it, bravo!

Kelevision 04-24-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

Both my neighbors are snowbirds and introduced themselves as snowbirds, which is how I know.

jparsoneau@aol.com 04-24-2023 09:25 AM

So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

Pennyt 04-24-2023 09:29 AM

That's all comedians should do...make fun of themselves. I never thought jokes made at the expense of others was humorous. I remember a clown at Sea World who would walk behind people and make fun of the way they looked, the way they walked, etc. Some in the audience laughed but it made me very uncomfortable and I thought it was cruel.

dewilson58 04-24-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jparsoneau@aol.com (Post 2210839)
So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

You are still the Master of Your Domain.

MisterPratt 04-24-2023 09:36 AM

Could it be we are evolving as a nation? Think of the words that were common place years ago. Colored became black to Afro-American. Miss, Mrs. became Ms. White has become Euro-American. More diversity in advertising, etc. the list goes on and on. There was a time blacks and females weren’t permitted to vote. One can only guess what was being talked about when these changes were taking place. As Bob Dylan wrote, “these times they are a changin.” Each generation goes through it. As example, your parents yelled to you to turn that music down, how can you listen to that garbage. Now, the parents today complain about their kids music.

Geodyssey 04-24-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2210576)
Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

Everyone knows who it was. Same thing happening daily in many large US cities.

Demographics is destiny.

nn0wheremann 04-24-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

To be correct in all you say nowadays, you must adhere to a vow of silence, or limit discourse to “Hey, hozabout dem Cubs”.

JMintzer 04-24-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2210841)
You are still the Master of Your Domain.

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nn0wheremann 04-24-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2210591)
There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

I guess Dutch Masters cigars would be made taboo now, if all things tobacco were not already taboo.
Still, the Florida legislature worries me, outlawing “Drag Shows” if children might see them. A friend of mine used to travel the country as a musician, playing his bagpipes at festivals, parades, policemen’s funerals, etc, if full kilt and highland regalia . Now in Florida he would be arrested and those sponsoring the events he performed at would be pilloried, fined, and who knows what else.

IndianaJones 04-24-2023 10:13 AM

Your "troll" question was actually this:

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

To me, having been in Florida since 1964, "snowbird" was a common term applied to anyone who came south for the winter to escape the cold. It was not derogatory or ill-meaning. However, "yankee" and "northerner" were terms almost always used while driving - and they meant "someone from up north who didn't drive the way we drive" (right or wrong). I don't think snowbird is a bad term, just a descriptive term. Maybe change it to "winter-challenged folk"?

dewilson58 04-24-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaJones (Post 2210863)
Your

What is coming.......the state of Indiana will have to change its name.

You might have to change your name as well.

:oops:

rsibole 04-24-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

I think nursery rhymes need to be taught at every level of education and job training . . . . . like the one about sticks & stones. Get over your precious selves Snowflakes, it's only words and if you don't like what you hear just hum a song to yourself.

Stu from NYC 04-24-2023 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2210676)
I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Words can have more than one meaning.

Cannot understand how anyone can be a comedian these days, people get offended by almost anything.

Sad we cannot even poke fun at ourselves


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