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sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211160)
Dear your omnipotence!
Simply refer to me as Young and Handsome or as most people do, "Hey you".

Dear Young and handsome, thank you. I gift you some of my omnipotence or perhaps instead you would enjoy some omniscience?

Pairadocs 04-24-2023 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2210567)
OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

Well yes, you are surely opening yourself for who knows what in "backlash". The words you listed can have a very positive meaning (Yankee for instance) but we all know those terms are purposely used in a derogatory manner by many ! If you want to see really mind blowing vitriol around those terms, there is an on line "newspaper" for news in the villages. The comments section after each "article" is shocking to say the least, gives you an idea of not only what "some" residents of the villages think of "snowbirds", "Yankees", etc. but some others (who appear to live in the areas outside the villages) are very blunt about how they not only wish none of them would never come here, but wish them "vanish permanently" (?? don't like the sounds of that at all, some get quite graphic).

My opinion of your question: to me people have become much more angry, nasty, suspicious, or just much less gracious and accepting as peopled USED to be in any retirement community. I am not sure what has "caused" this, I suspect it's a variety of circumstances: influx of people entering our country illegally, fear of American citizens who come from locations, philosophies, and cultures vastly different from the once rural, laid back, very hospitable, slow paced, area here where the Villages has been built. I personally believe people have changed as a result of the Covid pandemic also. Inside the Villages, some denigrate the "groups" you named because they believe they are somehow being cheated by part time people using the amenities of the community, and, if you read the stark opinions of "some" local residents in the small communities around us, they "lump" all village residents into a group they see as wealthy (?), "uppity" "untitled" "snobs" "drunken" "elites". Not a good perception of the retired, hard working, middle class seniors who make up most of the population. To those outside, everyone here is a trust fund idiot who was head of some technology firm and now things they live in some private, guarded, elite community. You just can't change the perceptions in people's minds. Inside the Villages, you have all the resentment of permanent residents, and those who own, and float among, two or more homes. I don't think there is a single root of this, and I don't think it's going to change, "snowbird, yum, tastes like chickin" was a bumper sticker when I was a youngster in Southern Florida, nothing has changed except it has gotten much more hateful and serious. I believe the Villages only reflects what is happening nation wide: outgoing, warm, loving, kind, RESPECTFUL, accepting, caring, concerned, spiritually focused, family oriented, community supporting, happy, the words used for years to describe "Americans", is definitely changing. Notice the responses you see just on this "community bulletin board". If someone is single, or ill, or has some kind of emergency, how many people rush over to offer to mow their lawn, or fix the broken screen, or trim the branch that may be hanging over the neighbor's property ? No, the go to the nearest public forum, the "social media" to complain, but no offer of "can I help you, do you need some help with that ?". I was raised to always extend a helping hand, not criticize and judge.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211165)
That was a VERY clever and informative post. It may go down in TOTV history as one of the best ever!

Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-24-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LianneMigiano (Post 2211061)
It's getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to become teachers here in FL. Just wait and see.....That's going to be the real crisis

There's already a teacher shortage in Florida. That's why the state government is offering veterans teaching positions. No qualifications necessary.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211130)
Bring it on. I can always use new shoes. They make my calves look sexy. You forgot my quote about referring to me as “Your Omnipotence”. Nice to meet ya Tom Petty. I may lurk some more or come back out for fun when it suits me.

Lurking in the shadows, the all-omnipotent one has the power to INCINERATE the babbling thoughts of the lesser mortals. Walk softly and carry exquisite calves.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211167)
VERY true, that !

Finally a safe topic! 😄

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:23 PM

Ahhhh…flattery will get you everywhere! As a result of being everywhere, you can also be gifted omnipresence!

I hear you and I’m quietly shrugging back to my troll cave on Petty Avenue. Quieter, softer. Gentler. I really should have taken that debate class. Sigh.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-24-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211172)
Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?

Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211146)
According to the internet it’s derogatory except when referring to a solo sexual act. (Shrug)

I am an excellent lover - I often start early by warming myself up.

retiredguy123 04-24-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211118)
Looks like we got a new shooter at the craps table... Come on 7! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

I counted 32 posts on this thread so far. Is that a record?

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2211180)
Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.

I think your intention is honorable and thanks for sharing that to clarify your stance. When I weighed the number of examples that read racist (even as points of education) compared to the final singular point, it left my brain with the seesaw on the wrong side of your intention. Something to gnaw on in the future.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211170)
Dear Young and handsome, thank you. I gift you some of my omnipotence or perhaps instead you would enjoy some omniscience?

ANYTHING is a welcome gift if it comes from Ms. Omnipotence!!!!!!!!!

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211181)
I am an excellent lover - I often start early by warming myself up.

Do what you must to roar the engine.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2211183)
I counted 32 posts on this thread so far. Is that a record?

I’m so impressed you thought enough of me to go into my profile and count all my posts. Thank you! Xoxo

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211186)
ANYTHING is a welcome gift if it comes from Ms. Omnipotence!!!!!!!!!

I’m not sure everyone on here agrees with you. Men have been trying to put baby in a corner for years tho by saying things like, “I counted 32 posts, is that the record?” Puhleeze. Try harder. Post count shaming doesn’t work as a silencer.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211172)
Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?

That and well written and way cool, in spades.....whatever that means

Normal 04-24-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211192)
That and well written and way cool, in spades.....whatever that means

You can’t use the term “spades”. It’s racial.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211177)
Ahhhh…flattery will get you everywhere! As a result of being everywhere, you can also be gifted omnipresence!

I hear you and I’m quietly shrugging back to my troll cave on Petty Avenue. Quieter, softer. Gentler. I really should have taken that debate class. Sigh.

We ALL live in a yellow TROLL CAVE, yellow TROLL CAVE......quieter, gentler, softer.......rub my back ?

Pairadocs 04-24-2023 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211018)
Sure, I’ll get over my precious self if you post your real name, phone number, and photo. Hiding behind a cloak of anonymity is easy but also cowardly. I’m so over watching all the anonymous bullies on this forum doze people into the ground. Be brave and bold if you are going to criticize people and tell us who you are. I’ll ’listen to anyone with varying opinions until the judging and labeling starts, name calling or bullying. After that I’m just going to look at them as hurt and angry, trying to find their way out of a torrid of emotions by blaming and lambasting everyone else.

Always keep in mind, those who depend on name calling, bullying, judging, and anger, rather than present their "case" using a series of logical (related) steps rather than "emotions"(what the "feel"), actually have no "case" to make, or have a very weak case or point that lacks factual evidence. Those folks who rely on blame, anger, emotion, would be well served NOT to go to law school ... or join a debate team, LOL, as each statement must RELATE to the previous one in LOGICAL fashion ! Sooner or later, you can't support an idea or point on emotion and "shouting" alone. Also, low self-esteem plays a part in the whole "social media" scene. Many of who felt rather invisible and/or unimportant most of their lives, can become what they have always dreamed through the keyboard, push others DOWN so they can feel better about themselves. Seems to work for most.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211196)
We ALL live in a yellow TROLL CAVE, yellow TROLL CAVE......quieter, gentler, softer.......rub my back ?

Ahh Jim it’s getting a little weird now. I’m a married woman who reserves back rubbing for my husband. I save ribbing for everyone else tho.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2211197)
Always keep in mind, those who depend on name calling, bullying, judging, and anger, rather than present their "case" using a series of logical (related) steps rather than "emotions"(what the "feel"), actually have no "case" to make, or have a very weak case or point that lacks factual evidence. Those folks who rely on blame, anger, emotion, would be well served NOT to go to law school ... LOL ! Sooner or later, you can't support a point on emotion and "shouting" alone. Also, low self-esteem plays a part in the whole "social media" scene. Many of who felt rather invisible and/or unimportant most of their lives, can become what they have always dreamed through the keyboard, push others DOWN so they can feel better about themselves. Seems to work for most.

Can’t argue with all that good rhetoric. Two thumbs up.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211188)
Do what you must to roar the engine.

I think that I am going ALL-Electric Beemer now. I am electric, hear me roar.......a little bit quieter now.......I practically purrrrrrrr.

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211191)
I’m not sure everyone on here agrees with you. Men have been trying to put baby in a corner for years tho by saying things like, “I counted 32 posts, is that the record?” Puhleeze. Try harder. Post count shaming doesn’t work as a silencer.

NOBODY here EVER agrees with me. It is HARD work, but someone HAS to do it!

jimjamuser 04-24-2023 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211198)
Ahh Jim it’s getting a little weird now. I’m a married woman who reserves back rubbing for my husband. I save ribbing for everyone else tho.

Damn, all the GOOD ones are ALWAYS taken ! On second thought, I could live with a good ribbing now and then.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211202)
NOBODY here EVER agrees with me. It is HARD work, but someone HAS to do it!

Take it back! For today you have one unanimous concurrence. I can’t swear by tomorrow tho. I may be tied to a stake in the middle of a mob.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-24-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2211203)
Damn, all the GOOD ones are ALWAYS taken ! On second thought, I could live with a good ribbing now and then.

Ha. He may acquiesce with you on most days. Thank you young and handsome. I’ll work on some ribbing material. I think you can take it.

Two Bills 04-25-2023 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2211127)
When I was a kid younger men and boys were addressed as “master”. The term is still used quite a bit over in England. Is it derogatory now?

Head Master/Mistress at schools is now Head Teacher.
Head Master denotes Male.
Head Mistress denotes Female.

Can't have that. :shrug:

jimjamuser 04-25-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2211180)
Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.

The replacement theory comes into play here. When a #2 or a #3 group has success, then within the #1 group some will applaud that success and say that is social progress and it strengthens America. But there are others that will take a darker response and say, "Wait am I losing my share, my power?"

Chi-Town 04-25-2023 08:40 AM

Yankee and nothener are terms the South calls the North. Usually not terms of endearment when used. Snowbird is a universal and a more accepted term for winter vacationers.
At least we don't hear "carpet *******" anymore.

jimjamuser 04-25-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211204)
Take it back! For today you have one unanimous concurrence. I can’t swear by tomorrow tho. I may be tied to a stake in the middle of a mob.

I LOVE the visual imagery! Always avoid a mob - that's what running shoes are for.

jimjamuser 04-25-2023 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2211232)
Head Master/Mistress at schools is now Head Teacher.
Head Master denotes Male.
Head Mistress denotes Female.

Can't have that. :shrug:

Life changes, science changes, social science changes, medical science changes.......humans became the dominant species on this planet, NOT by being the strongest or fastest animal.........but by being the most ADAPTIVE.

Normal 04-25-2023 08:52 AM

Correctness
 
The real knife in the back with all this was the elimination of Chief Wahoo and saying goodbye to the Cleveland Indians. I mean seriously, is it wrong to be an Indian, a Chief, a Brave or even a Warrior? My hope is one day the Indians come back to play as they were most of my life.

JMintzer 04-25-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211166)
That’s not very cool Tommy. I just said nice to meet ya. I think you misread my reply. I said to call me “your omnipotence,” not troll. Since you are challenging me I would say, why go to all the trouble to focus everyone’s attention on little ole me?

As far as ducking in and out…some of us still work and don’t have hours to waste on here replying to endless daily rants about roundabouts, bad drivers and snowflakes. Boring too. I like to really dig my heels (pun intended as an accessory to your shoe comment) into commentary by racists of many types.

Tommy?

Shirley you jest...

JMintzer 04-25-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211166)
That’s not very cool Tommy. I just said nice to meet ya. I think you misread my reply. I said to call me “your omnipotence,” not troll. Since you are challenging me I would say, why go to all the trouble to focus everyone’s attention on little ole me?

As far as ducking in and out…some of us still work and don’t have hours to waste on here replying to endless daily rants about roundabouts, bad drivers and snowflakes. Boring too. I like to really dig my heels (pun intended as an accessory to your shoe comment) into commentary by racists of many types.

Project much?

JMintzer 04-25-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2211173)
There's already a teacher shortage in Florida. That's why the state government is offering veterans teaching positions. No qualifications necessary.

There is a national teacher shortage...

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211383)
Project much?

Oops

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211381)
Tommy?

Shirley you jest...

I could have called you troll like you called me but then I would be doing the same behavior as you. Calling you Tommy just seemed kinder. (Shrug)

JMintzer 04-25-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211433)
I could have called you troll like you called me but then I would be doing the same behavior as you. Calling you Tommy just seemed kinder. (Shrug)

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with my name... So go figure...

And you're a self admitted Troll, so I fail to see the problem addressing you as such...

CODYCAT 04-25-2023 12:21 PM

Those will be gone soon.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211446)
Yeah, but it has nothing to do with my name... So go figure...

And you're a self admitted Troll, so I fail to see the problem addressing you as such...

I would suggest you stop the personal attacks and name calling. Your stalker behavior is crossing the line.


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