THE RACE ENDED WITH BUBBA RUNNING OUT OF GAS. Funny that none of the drivers got out to push him across the finish line after the race.

All the garage pulls look like that. Just another one caught in a flat out lie

Just another “poor me. Im so discriminated against” story. It was proven that rope is a door pull and has been there for over a year!! Maybe he should stop the pot stirring and also apologize for the crap he tried to start. FBI proved he lied

EXACTLY!

Bubba didn't see it.

Bubba didn't report it.

Bubba didn't "start" anything.

Bubba isn't "stirring the pot," only racist/bigoted white people incensed at the ban on confederate flags and hatred of BLM...are doing that and keep "stirring-the-pot." :oops:

Since in and of itself, it's not against the law to just be a racist or bigot (as long as one isn't exercising it to control jobs/promotions/housing/Etc.) why can't those folks just be honest...and publicly own/admit it? :ohdear:

Don't believe everything you see or hear. Even salt looks like sugar.

When I see a noose like this , I think of old western movies , I would have never thought it was something racist, I'll have to look at nooses differently now after this week.

This site has become ridiculous because of posts like this. It should be a requirement that you have an IQ of at least 90 to be able to post out here. The media is turning to many people into idiots

Due to the historical rash of lynchings of black people, by mobs with little to no reason except the victim was black, nooses have LONG been used...to try and intimidate blacks.

Anyone who doesn't know THAT, is either extremely naïve or.... :ohdear:


Nooses Appearing Across The Country (click here)

:ho:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...fake-noose-jpg
Really? The image you posted of the noose picture opened in PhotoShop is fuzzy/pixelated everywhere! You sure seemed to be drawing on some extensive experience with PS to (unilaterally) declare that the picture was a fake. Maybe you don't fully understand jpeg?
Wait, now NASCAR is "MSM" too??? :confused: That's a new one, at least to me. BTW, don't apologize to me, that should go to the person you jumped all over when he posted the information provided by NASCAR stating that they had checked "the 1,684 garage stalls at 29 tracks".
AS far as I can find, you are the ONLY one declaring the noose photo to be fake. And you claim not to be a PS master!!! Sorry, but that's not proof at all. I'm not even going to respond to the name calling, etc. (removed from this response) :cus: :ohdear:

Oh, the irony... :a20:

Yes indeed

Watch out Kroger. Your business is showcased in the picture of the noose. Might wanna board up the windows and evacuate

looks like a noose to me

boy who cried wolf
 

Because there are numerous example of fake racism by white people (Jussie Smollett is but one of hundreds - perhaps thousands); we do not need to be educated on being sensitive to real racism. We understand real racism and hate it. However, when no investigation is done ... when fact are not presented ... when a photo of the actual "noose" is not shown to the public, it is quite easy to drift over to the Jussie Smollett paradigm. In fact, it's my default position until shown otherwise. And I wasn't shown otherwise. So, it was just a rope to grab the garage door.

Or....it is possible that little rope noose was retied and photographed to cause people to talk about racism. There is some of that going on. There are a lot of new words, maybe not NEW words, but negative labels for people who are not guilty of wrong doing. It is in many cases warranted and needed to be reminded that many areas of this country did segregate and had discriminatory laws. I believe that our National Laws are now fair. I think it is wrong to ignore law breakers and miscreants and to diminish all police officers. I think affirmative action and paying people because of their race is wrong. There are a lot of people who are not guilty of being racist but only shamed now for being born white. I was not aware until midnight last night as I was reading what hurts others about white privilege were little things like the band-aids being only the color of white flesh and the make up geared toward white skin. That does give one pause. The television commercials are showing a lot of black and Asian people now. I don't know if that will help anyone do better or feel better. Being mad at people because they are white doesn't seem like a good thing. I do know that someone is going to post back at me that I just don't "get it" and I will be thinking I am glad he doesn't live at my house or on my street. You know...all this talking and all this conscience raising just sometimes makes matters worse. But I did learn and think about the band aids and make up. Now if all parents would teach their children to not run from the police and all parents would teach their children to not break the law and all parents would teach their children it hurts people when you make them feel small and bad and wrong when they are not. But it is right to make children feel small and bad and wrong when they are breaking rules and being unfair and unkind to others because they "can".

Fake noose.

Stop being sucked into these FALSE NARRATIVES and outright LIES.
Your being played. Your doing exactly what theses people want. You know the truth, the FBI cleared this as a hoax.

Where did you get your intel from. You should state it to make your statement credible. Would cut out out half the opioniated responses...

Namvet Lar

Do you realize that all the information came directly from the President of NASCAR?

You can “see” what you want to see, no matter what is reality !

Noose?
 

Have you not watched the news??? It was NOT a noose... It was a rope on the garage door to pull the door down like most people have, that had been there for 9 months per video and confirmation of others in that garage. Bubba did not think it was a noose, and he does not like all of the racial implications that people are trying to keep stirred up.

Nascar pandering. no Backbone, ALL LIVES MATTER BUBBA

I was a manager at a factory and we had a row of bay doors. Some of the doors had a noose and some didn't. The doors can get hard to open over time.

I'm not saying Bubba wasn't targeted by a racist person. I'm just sharing my experience using a noose to create a hand hold on a garage door pull.

New not old
 

That is not a two year old garage pull as the FBI reported. There would be some discoloration from oil and grease over time!

It had been there since October 2019, you can not leave that fact out. Stop it...Bubba put out a statement he was glad it was a mistake. After he had time to see footage for himself.

I see everyone on here is "guest." Is this the new current events forum?

agreed, very low-quality thread & will probably be removed again, why push it?? what point can be made? it's become a non-issue

thank you, it looks like a shopped thumbnail

You got it right! Just do the math! So many ignorant people - shame!

Ah the noose (again). Let me tell you a little story. On a previous post I mentioned that I had a need to learn to tie a really good knot. One that would hold my fat ….. on a high roof. When I started my research into knots I got a little enthused. So I started making all kinds of knots. For me it was similar to learning magic tricks. I was impressed when I successfully completed a complicated one. I saw the noose knot. I was tempted to do it but at that point I was too lazy. Had I successfully completed one I’m certain I would have been proud and probably kept it. You won’t believe it but the one thing that didn’t come to my mind was racial injustice. I’m sure some of you would call me ignorant or insensitive. But the fact is I’m pretty much an average person. Not everyone looks for the dark side in everything that’s done. I’ve been to hundreds of motorcycle service departments and seen many ropes. Never once in my wildest imagination did I make a connection to the knot looking like a noose and it being a statement of racial injustice. So, now nooses are a sign of racial injustice. I guess chains will be next. After all what was used on all when they were transported. Let’s get back to nooses. I bet everyone reading this has seen the movie Hang ‘Em High. There were many nooses and hangings in that movie. Where was the outrage? There was none because no one made a connection to racial injustice. How about Pirates of the Caribbean? How about Homeland? It had a very graphic hanging scene with a noose. I guess Hollywood, as usual, is exempt. Let’s move over to Nascar. I don’t know if it was ignorance that started this or that they thought someone might make something of it so they decided they’d get ahead of it. Make something out of possibly nothing and become the good guys – I guess maybe that was their strategy. I don’t know about that but what I do know is that the marketing after-the-fact has been brilliant. It was not a noose but it was fashioned like a noose (?) and days later we’re still discussing, no, arguing about it. Lastly, I guess I shouldn’t try to make a noose because it’s no longer a knot and I’m going to get rid of all my chains because I’m sure they’re next.

But it has been shown, and the picture provided by NASCAR is in the very first post in this thread.

Not really, because the same rope with the same noose on the same garage door has also been shown before it was cut off. That photo is reportedly from 2019.
https://theconservativetreehouse.fil...ose-hoax-9.jpg

We're talking about red neck racing. This really started on dirt tracks in the south with the good old beer drinkin' rebs havin' fun. I can see some bored mechanic or helper tying, unsuccessfully, a noose. Big deal! Get another beer and move on...

Your story aside, you & many others still seem to be missing the point.
Bubba Wallace, "NASCAR's only Black full-time driver" didn't find the noose. A member of his team did. It truly seems to be a coincidence that it was hanging in the garage stall he was assigned, but is apparently unique in all of NASCAR. "Across the 1,684 garage stalls at 29 tracks, NASCAR found only 11 total had a pull-down rope tied in a knot and only one noose — the one discovered Sunday in the No. 43 garage stall." NASCAR completes investigation into No. 43 at Talladega | NASCAR
That being the case, what would this team member assume? That a rope fashioned with an actual noose at the end meant nothing? Even with the dark history of lynchings in the past? This wouldn't even have been the first time that a noose was purposely left as a symbol of hate & bigotry in recent times. Fortunately, it turned out to have been directed at no one in particular, but who could have known that at the moment it was found? Under those circumstance, nearly anyone would have reported it. Just because it turned out to have been unintentional, it doesn't make it a hoax.

Careful what you ask for regardless of the fact that you're absolutely right. If your advice was taken then with whom would postors (?) be able to argue? BTW what is the correct way to say one who posts? Poster, postor? I tried to look it up but couldn't find it.

That's right. The fake picture of this "noose" looks NOTHING like the ones I have seen in the news showing the loop of rope that was there for the garage door pull.

Nearly anyone would have reported it? If it had been there for months than probably many people have seen and even used it. So I believe many people ignored it and took it for what they thought it was, namely a rope with a clever loop. Some may have thought it was a cleverly done noose for the door but they didn't make the dark connection. One person saw it and made that connection, either right or wrong. Nascar could have investigated it without making it a national upheaval. Why didn't they? That's a very interesting question. Let's say the noose was done with ill intentions. Should it have gotten to this level? Remember Nascar is a business. How many businesses deal with racially sensitive situations each and every day, hundreds, thousands? Should each one be national news and ammunition for chaos? For some the answer might be yes. For others, like me, the answer is punish wrong doers for their actions but don't use individual incidents to push a political narrative or as an excuse to use it for violence. How many swastikas are painted on the side of Jewish homes and synagogues? How many make the news? Maybe swastikas really don't have any bad memories for Jews. Oh, Jews are white, never mind. There are so, so many horrible things happening everyday in this world, things that don't simply hurt feels but actually take lives and we make a monumental deal of a rope fashioned like a noose. So much for our priorities.

"Under those circumstances, nearly anyone would have reported it." Were Bubba & his crew using that stall during the months the noose was there? It sure doesn't sound like it. That would definitely be part of the circumstances.
Who knows why NASCAR called the FBI? The hoopla has mostly died down in the press; no so much here on ToTV however.
Swastikas? Synagogues? Can we even keep on topic here? This is news, whether worthy or not, because of the racial turmoil going on at the moment in this country. Denying & excusing what IS A NOOSE doesn't make it go away. I'll be all too happy to drop the subject as soon as all that stuff stops.

Noose
 

Anyone who sees that as noose has never seen one, there is no resemblance. I’ve seen a lot of ropes with loops on garage doors so you can grip easily to no slip and cause a rope burn on your hand. Most today have a wood handle but if the break they just tie a loop to grip.

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I MUST say - I personally am SO SICK & TIRED of this topic, I am turning my brain OFF to this matter. Done - but IT DID EXACTLY what the Media and others wanted - it was simply a PERFECT Fit for this quote from Rahm Emanuel, a former mayor of Chicago and a former Democratic congressman from Illinois. He served as chief of staff to President Barack Obama from 2009 to 2010.

“Never allow a good crisis go to waste. It’s an opportunity to do the things you once thought were impossible.”
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