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ithos 06-13-2020 06:21 AM

Do you think this may be a factor?

https://www.educationnext.org/files/...ahan_fig01.jpg

From the New York Times of all places.

Yet 20 years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. spoke candidly about the black family, spelling out the ''alarming'' statistics on ''the rate of illegitimacy,'' the increase in female-headed households and the rise in families on welfare. The black family, King asserted, had become ''fragile, deprived and often psychopathic.''

RESTORING THE TRADITIONAL BLACK FAMILY - The New York Times

allsport 06-13-2020 06:34 AM

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

Strongel 06-13-2020 06:39 AM

“White speak”, Faux news.....yes more decisive language will solve the problems of individuals gone bad.

RichS$ 06-13-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1783102)
I used to think that way as well. Need to dig deeper into the underlying issues such as poverty, systemic and institutionalized racism. Just because there are many black on black homicides does not mean police killings should be ignored. Need to get out from our cocoon.

No one gave up on the police killing. All four officers have been charged. There is no excuse for the rioting and killing aftermath. It just becomes one more example of a serious character flaw.
Regarding systemic issues, Education looms the largest. Blacks, historically do not take their basic K-12 education seriously which puts them immediately behind the 8 ball.
As a white person, the only thing I can do is protest against an educational system that accepts this character flaw. As a system, we should not allow anyone to advance a grade or graduate without meeting acceptable standards.
Ask Asian Americans or Indians how they overcame discrimination in the country?

Bay Kid 06-13-2020 06:47 AM

Racism, reverse racism. BET, BLM, NAACP, UNCF, etc.

retiredguy123 06-13-2020 06:55 AM

If the protests, riots, looting, and violence are supposed to improve bad race relations, it's not working. In my opinion, it's making the situation worse.

soniak4@gmail.com 06-13-2020 06:57 AM

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

dewilson58 06-13-2020 07:02 AM

[QUOTE=soniak4@gmail.com;1783234]It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance,



90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. /QUOTE]


80,000 bad cops??.........support this number.

Cybersprings 06-13-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)
Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

You do realize that the term whitespeak is racist and offensive, don’t you?

Cybersprings 06-13-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com (Post 1783234)
It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

You have a good point at the end. However, very few will ever get to it because the beginning is so ridiculous, without any basis in fact, and offensive. I’m betting you don’t Even watch Fox News and are merely using the trite idea given to you by CNN. Also saying that 10% of cops are brutal licensed killers is so ignorant, I won’t even comment on it.

Race shouldn’t matter. But to think we will ever get to the point of no racism is ignorant also. This world is made up of people. People who will think they are better than others because of the news channel they watch, race, and many other reasons. We can only punish crimes committed, not be thought police. And with the constant proclamation of the first black ( fill in position or accomplishment) first female x, first Hispanic y, good luck getting people to ignore race, gender, religion

GOLFER54 06-13-2020 07:27 AM

Very well put.

Stu from NYC 06-13-2020 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com (Post 1783234)
It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

Do you really think that 10% of the police are brutal licensed killers? Wow.

Ever consider that when people do not commit crimes they have less contact with the police. Or do you think that because we are law abiding citizens we are racist?

ldivens 06-13-2020 07:35 AM

Don't be confusing things with facts, they don't fit the narrative!

MandoMan 06-13-2020 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com (Post 1783234)
It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

I agree with you. However, we should also note that a lot of young police officers of all shades and ethnicities start off with great intentions, ready to make a difference. Then they get assigned to a neighborhood where they see criminal behavior all around them and are cursed, lied to, shown disrespect, attacked. Soon, some of those with good intentions will change their minds and learn to hate. It’s a very difficult situation.

joseppe 06-13-2020 07:42 AM

Yep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)
Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

YouTube


Very Well Put !! I agree.


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