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OMG a common sense posting, good job.

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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

The problem with a lot of people who post here and elsewhere know not of what they speak. My experience as a P.O. in a black housing project for 5 years: The unit was a mixed unit with one black officer and one white officer in each patrol car. Some cars had two black officers. Some cars had one white officer. Often times my observation was that the cars with two black officers were quicker to use use force in arrests than the white officers. The occupants of the project did not respect the black officers any more than the white officers. Some of the occupants were doing their best to raise their family and improve their situation to leave the project, while others had no inclination to do anything to improve their situation.

Police officers are not the problem. Statistics shows that. Systemic racism is a buzz word which people are using to blur the lines and discount the inherent problem that not all people are good, bias works both ways, opportunists and politicians will say and do anything to to further their own agenda.

The current frenzy is being ginned up by the media and groups which are seeking power in the vacuum created by elected officials who have abdicated their role in protecting the citizens of this country.

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Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1783346)

Humans, just as animals will almost always gravitate toward their own kind. That is human characteristic.

Excellent observation. However over time assimilation can and will happen. About 150 years ago Germans hated the Irish that came to America. The Irish hated the Germans. Then the Irish hated the Italians and vice versa. Both blacks and whites hated the mulattos. Over time hatred turned to acceptance or tolerance. This can happen between blacks and whites if the blacks decide not to be victims any longer and control their own fate and whites decide to stop their white guilt. Unfortunately this will not happen during our lifetime. Also one other thing I believe helped assimilate those earlier races was the lack of the political and media BS. I didn’t have the media constantly telling me (Irish descent) that I was supposed to hate Italians. So I married one.

Well said. The one thing you left out was to encourage the revival of black families. Too many dads are absent in the family which is a root cause of criminal behavior.

The underlying issue is single motherhood. More than 70% of black children are born to single mothers. Hispanics 53%, whites 30%. These children are doomed to live in poverty. Poverty breeds crime. Solve the single motherhood tragedy. The Obamas should have spoken out about this. Jessie Jackson. Al Sharpton. All the black politicians. They don’t so it continues. Guess it’s not politically correct.

In the 1960's and 70's in I worked with and socialized with the black police officers in my unit. Some of the black officers who were lighter in color belonged to social clubs which did not allow members who were darker in color. Some of the people in N.O. who identified as black practiced social segregation by shades of blackness.

Your last sentence is so right on. Keep pointing out our genetic differences is just stupid. We all are simply just people.

Please quote your sources to authenticate your claims

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1783318)

It’s interesting how the media spits out a catch phrase and people repeat it like it’s true. The latest favorites are “systemic and institutionalized racism“. Not based on any facts or statistics, but automatically accepted and regurgitated back out. You “feel” police are systematically racist? Show me the numbers that support that false narrative.

Try this ; 25 charts that show how systemic racism is in the US - Business Insider My comment was not addressed specifically at the police.

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1783329)

One thing I’ve notice while reading the crime reports in the tri-county area is that a large percentage of the arrests are due to drugs, especially marijuana. Often, only a small amount is found, clearly for personal use. Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Of course, would it lead to better-educated kids? No way! Fewer teenage pregnancies? Not likely! Fewer shootings? I doubt it! But it could save money.

At the end of your post you touch base on the unintended consequences of legalizing pot nationally. There are some pretty sad stories coming out of Colorado regarding young lives that have been totally de-railed as a result of legalized marijuana.

Sadly, those stories aren't getting much play in the news...nor do I suspect they are getting the educational spotlight in our schools that they should

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1783400)

Well said. The one thing you left out was to encourage the revival of black families. Too many dads are absent in the family which is a root cause of criminal behavior.

Thanks. I knew that but I was going to long. Yes 75% of black women giving birth have no husband therefore the child has no father. Also education is a major factor. Blacks should have a choice of where to send their children instead a failing public school. Lastly religion wouldn’t hurt. See I told it would be too long. Thanks again.

In answer to dust bunny.

I was invited to join my black friend and colleague to have a drink at his club. While there he told me of the "brown bag" dances he attended. If a black person was darker than a brown paper grocery bag they could not get into the dance. One of my other black friends told me he did not want his daughter to date a dark skinned black. Everyone has a bias for one reason or another. Social or economic.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

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All that is true......what needs to change is the mind set of the American people, employers, government and so on. When you hold down a race it will never get better.
I was talking to a worker at a AC company and still today white men get pay more then blacks or hispanic men. White men in construction advance fast then blacks and hispanic workers. Racial language is used on the job site everyday, racial language is written on the portable restrooms. Until we stop this kind of mind set things will never change. I truly did not under stand the “White Privilege” until I spoke to this worker about what goes on everyday day in all walks of live. Whether we wanna believe it or not they walk around with a target on them, they are look down at simply because of their color skin by a large portion of our communities? So until we fix that, we can not fix All Lives Matter. This FYI is not just a black issue.

FBI statistics show that 99% of police shootings are justified. You can look it up.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, in and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.