Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1783174)

Do you think this may be a factor?

https://www.educationnext.org/files/...ahan_fig01.jpg

From the New York Times of all places.

Yet 20 years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. spoke candidly about the black family, spelling out the ''alarming'' statistics on ''the rate of illegitimacy,'' the increase in female-headed households and the rise in families on welfare. The black family, King asserted, had become ''fragile, deprived and often psychopathic.''

RESTORING THE TRADITIONAL BLACK FAMILY - The New York Times

Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1783092)

financially it is to my advantage to always be the victim. leave me and my bros alone.

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com (Post 1783234)

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1783346)

Humans, just as animals will almost always gravitate toward their own kind. That is human characteristic.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1783318)

It’s interesting how the media spits out a catch phrase and people repeat it like it’s true. The latest favorites are “systemic and institutionalized racism“. Not based on any facts or statistics, but automatically accepted and regurgitated back out. You “feel” police are systematically racist? Show me the numbers that support that false narrative.

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1783329)

One thing I’ve notice while reading the crime reports in the tri-county area is that a large percentage of the arrests are due to drugs, especially marijuana. Often, only a small amount is found, clearly for personal use. Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Of course, would it lead to better-educated kids? No way! Fewer teenage pregnancies? Not likely! Fewer shootings? I doubt it! But it could save money.

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1783400)

Well said. The one thing you left out was to encourage the revival of black families. Too many dads are absent in the family which is a root cause of criminal behavior.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

YouTube

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

YouTube

Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1783414)

Try this ; 25 charts that show how systemic racism is in the US - Business Insider My comment was not addressed specifically at the police.

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1783470)

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, if and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1783329)

Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1783195)

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1782921)

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1783470)

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, if and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.

Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1783495)

Firstly, my son is not a criminal, would not resist arrest if in that postion, would not pass conterfiet money. Those 4 cops were criminally wrong and like any criminal should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. We need to weed out the 'bad cops', disband the police unions that defend and protect 'bad cops' from being fired and prosecuted. Cops hold no different importance than you, I, or any Black, Brown, Yellow, or White citizen. All lives matter. The answer is not to disband police departments and create open season for criminals, or viligianties.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1783504)

So, let me see if I have this right. The protest is about the police, who take an oath to protect and serve, murdering unarmed black people and the "good cops" who do nothing to stop it.... and somehow black on black murders are in the conversation?

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1783506)

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Disband means reallocate funds, not eliminate the police. Advocates are looking to downsize funding or to shift money from law-enforcement to other programs and issues that go directly to communities. Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza said the "defund the police" movement means investing "in the resources our communities need."

Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1783514)

The comments given here are highly influenced by newscasts watched by the replyer. There are so many reports online and individual that are not reported by the National News Agencies because the item does not follow their objective.

I wish people who comment would stop politicising others through what they think others watch in newscasts. All American news broadcasts are biased....they do not "report the news" they give their opinions of what they think will retain more viewers....they are in the business of selling advertising based upon viewership. The simple proof of that statement is watch your favorite american newscast and then watch BBC or an Englishing speaking newscast from France, Italy, Germany, or Japan. The 'others' report the news that is happening without opinion trying to influence the viewer. They don't begin a report with "you saw it here first" or "in an exclusive report", or "we are bringing you this report first'.....etc.

Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1783195)

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

Originally Posted by Don Ferguson (Post 1783538)

I would be saying the exact same words I am now: That police officer deserves a slow painful death. Period. I can conceive a no defense for what Derek Chauvin did. However that does not mean there is systemic racism in the country. No country on earth has done (and continues to do) more to make a level playing field for all races.

There are, and always will be racists, on both sides of the spectrum. "Black Lives Matter" is a racist organization. The title is perfectly accurate but it is implemented in such a manner that ONLY black lives matter. Look at the announcer for the Sacramento Kings that was just fired for stating that "All lives matter." Both statements are 100% pure and true, but in this fantasy universe of CHAZ only the black life is allowed to be celebrated!

Originally Posted by Don Ferguson (Post 1783529)

Somebody finally pushed my buttons!

I'm white, but grew up in a black neighborhood. That was because I was just like them. I lived in abject poverty and was raised by a grandmother on welfare. I started working when I was 10 years old, to eat! There was NOTHING available to me that was not available to all my black friends and neighbors. I was drafted into the Army, went to OCS, earned a bachelors and two masters degrees, etc. I've had a good life. But, it was a result of more work than I ever thought possible. in my moccasins white privilege only meant working harder than the black AND white man next to me!