Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1783475)

If what you say is true, please explain the nearly identical death of Tony Timpa...

Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1783505)

Not all police brutality is related to race. Whites are also victims of brutality. Racially based brutality or the appearance that it is racially based brutality, is just more publicized and better suited for the agenda. Plenty of white heads have been busted, but do not get the same consideration. Perhaps it is thought that they deserved it?

Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1783195)

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1783346)

Your 'systemic issue' will never be resolved. You cannot pass a law to make people feel differently or to eliminate prejudice and/or racism. Humans, just as animals will almost always gravitate toward their own kind. That is human characteristic. In depth background checks can only weed out past actions, it cannot weed out a persons true feelings. I'd say there are very few people, if any that could forget religion, color, nationality or anything else about their personal makeup.

Originally Posted by Ritabob (Post 1783650)

Nobody on the left wants to listen to listen to Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell. These two black men are too intelligent and too factual for them. They would rather have Sharpton ranting and raving. By the way, what does Sharpton do to earn his money?

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1783472)

So you refer me to a left leaning publication. I started looking at the “charts and graphs”. For example one showing the disparity between the percentage of blacks in the population and in prison vs whites. Black males make up roughly 6% of the population yet commit more than 50% of the murders in the US and over 40% of the violent crimes. Therefore there should be a disproportionate percentage of blacks in prison. The chart on prison time for minor offenses fails to differentiate between those with priors (three strike law) Look at the actual numbers, not a left wing publication’s interpretation of them.

Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1783102)

I used to think that way as well. Need to dig deeper into the underlying issues such as poverty, systemic and institutionalized racism. Just because there are many black on black homicides does not mean police killings should be ignored. Need to get out from our cocoon.

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1783470)

I totally reject the idea that "the reason" for the protests and riots is police brutality, in and of itself. Police brutality is a symptom of the racism that still exits throughout our society. The flagrant killing of George Floyd was merely the catalyst for the protests. The rest of your OP is, to me, more twisted logic and refusal to admit that the actual "problem" always had it's roots in racism.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

YouTube

Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1783808)

Sure. Publication is rated as center left so let's dismiss it as useless propaganda and go back to Tucker and Sean on Fox.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1782906)

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

YouTube

Originally Posted by LynneH (Post 1788376)

You are neglecting to offer a well thought out response to this very specific problem- Why do US police keep killing unarmed black men?

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1782926)

Walter E. Williams: The true plight of black Americans
By Walter E. Williams Jun 10, 2020

White liberals and black politicians focus most of their attention on what the police do, but how relevant is that to the overall tragedy? According to Statista, this year, 172 whites and 88 blacks have died at the hands of police. To put police shootings in a bit of perspective, in Chicago alone in 2020 there have been 1,260 shootings and 256 homicides with blacks being the primary victims. That comes to one shooting victim every three hours and one homicide victim every 15 hours. Three people in Chicago have been killed by police. If one is truly concerned about black deaths, shootings by police should figure way down on one's list – which is not to excuse bad behavior by some police officers.
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BTW - below> a picture of Walter Willams...

MUCH more of the article>
ENTIRE ARTICLE>
https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/walt...d370f7e6d.html

Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783147)

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1783437)

All that is true......what needs to change is the mind set of the American people, employers, government and so on. When you hold down a race it will never get better.
I was talking to a worker at a AC company and still today white men get pay more then blacks or hispanic men. White men in construction advance fast then blacks and hispanic workers. Racial language is used on the job site everyday, racial language is written on the portable restrooms. Until we stop this kind of mind set things will never change. I truly did not under stand the “White Privilege” until I spoke to this worker about what goes on everyday day in all walks of live. Whether we wanna believe it or not they walk around with a target on them, they are look down at simply because of their color skin by a large portion of our communities? So until we fix that, we can not fix All Lives Matter. This FYI is not just a black issue.

Originally Posted by LynneH (Post 1788376)

You are neglecting to offer a well thought out response to this very specific problem- Why do US police keep killing unarmed black men?

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1788478)

SHort answer?
They don't. They just happen to be the ones the media and special interest groups want to talk about.

Another interesting piece of information would be how many black/police encounters occur every day/month/year.

The number of blacks killed by police would be minuscule out of the total.

FBI — Table 43

Over 2 million black/african American arrests in 2017 !!!!!!!!!!!!

Many would not have any interest to know that as it would destroy the myth the media and special interest groups prefer to portray.