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JMintzer 05-21-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1948114)
Does this mean that Jenner is a lesbian? Asking for a friend.

Is this the same "friend" who asked about "Gentleman's Clubs" in that other thread? ;)

JMintzer 05-21-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1948117)
I am left handed. The world should all be left handed. Wait, I have a pair of left handed scissors and I can't use them. I force the blades apart due to having lived in the real world.

Freak!

P.S I'm also left handed... ;)

oneclickplus 05-21-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1947716)
You reap what you sow. If women protested this issue, then there would be a stop to it immediately. If they sit back and allow it, then they get treated just like they did before they won the right to vote.
I do not hate transgenders, gays, etc. I just do not condone it. I believe that what one is, they were born with, not able to change what GOD made them. What a person does in private (relationship) is their business and I just don't care. But, I do not believe that a male should be able to enter a restroom with a female child or adult. I do not believe in transgenders in sports unless the sport is classed as open gender, male and female. But, that is just my opinion. What entertainment does to entertain is up to them and if they start losing support, then I guess they will change. I don't have to watch a sport or any other type of entertainment if I disapprove of something. I do not watch football anymore because of the athletes kneeling during the National Anthem. That is my prerogative. And the interesting point is that now I no longer miss those sports.
Someone said it is not fair that a male is allowed to play in a sport that has been dedicated to females. It's been going on the other way also. Females have attempted to enter male sports such as football, etc. What is fair? I would have to say that it is not fair in public school that males can enter female sports. Developing girls should be able to compete on equal terms with other girls while they are developing in public school. Otherwise, I really don't care. Sports is just entertainment and if they want to add a new element to it, I guess they will see how the public accepts it or not.

Women can not protest / object to this without compromising their "equality" argument. If men can't participate in women's sports (and I happen to agree with that), then women don't belong in the most intense sport on the planet (military). Facts are facts and disagreeing with them doesn't change them one whit.

JMintzer 05-21-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1948122)
Not quite subject related, but......does that mean Jenner is gay? If Jenner is now female, and Jenner prefers women sexually, it seems to me that would make Jenner homosexual, correct? Just a rhetoric question, which means no answer necessary. But, you have to admit, this makes an interesting point or hypothesis.

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Byte1 05-21-2021 10:40 AM

So, just out of curiousity what was Hailey Davidson's name before transgender? Harley Davidson?? :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

JMintzer 05-21-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1948155)
Lets hope Bryson DeChambeau dosn't go all Victorias Secret, and get on the LPGA Tour!

:bigbow:

Ponygirl 05-21-2021 10:42 AM

Moderator - why is this stream still active??
 
I am appalled at the number of disrespectful, mean spirted and ugly posts today. So many adding their comments about something they know nothing.

I tried to find the posters name who posted abt African American male genitalia so that I could request that he be banned from this site. So disgusting and inappropriate. But the post must have been removed.

Nearly every day it is shocking to read what people post on Talk of the Villages. An embarrassment.

The ideal would be that this community be welcoming, kind and inclusive rather than what it is.

Marty94 05-21-2021 10:53 AM

As a female athlete, I have competed at the national and international level. In the past, I was made aware of transgender athletes competing and opted out of those competitions, as my husband, a doctor, explained the physiology advantages.

My take on transgender athletes is that they should be allowed to compete, but against each other. There should be a separate division for them. I mean, we have special olympics, para-olympics, etc. There is no need to shame or berate or call them freaks, but there are physical differences and this should be addressed so that everyone can compete in a fair and safe environment. And I emphasize the latter. If you want to see what a trans can do to women athletes, search for Fallon Fox who has fractured skulls and broken opponent’s bones. Not all sports are non-contact.

The International Olympic Committee states that an athlete has to be at a specific hormone level for only one year to qualify. The athlete does not have to undergo any surgery. This is a huge advantage for men, who might not be able to qualify in their division, to transition and compete as a woman. As Olympic and pro athletes get a great deal of endorsement money, I believe you are going to see more men going in this direction. Thus, I hope that more women will ban together and protest. After all, when the top 14-16 year old boys can crush women’s world records set in track and field, there is clearly a reason that men and women separately compete. I believe it only fair that this should remain the standard and thus a new division be created for trans athletes.

Byte1 05-21-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponygirl (Post 1948168)
I am appalled at the number of disrespectful, mean spirted and ugly posts today. So many adding their comments about something they know nothing.

I tried to find the posters name who posted abt African American male genitalia so that I could request that he be banned from this site. So disgusting and inappropriate. But the post must have been removed.

Nearly every day it is shocking to read what people post on Talk of the Villages. An embarrassment.

The ideal would be that this community be welcoming, kind and inclusive rather than what it is.

The Villages really is "kind and inclusive" but it is NOT Stepford. The Developers advertised this place as American's Friendliest Hometown. In reality, The Villages is a sampling of seniors from all over the country, and from some other countries. Generally speaking, this really is a great and friendly town. It's big, so you are going to find at least one person that you do not agree with, or may not be as friendly as you might wish. I have found folks to be very nice and helpful. Villagers like to enjoy their freedom and liberty. Generally speaking, most are patriotic and proud. That said, many folks have their opinions and preferences. What's wrong with that? Seniors have the tendency to speak out. What's wrong with that? Seniors have "toed" the line for the majority of their lives and now that they will suffer very little repercussions for their blatant speech, they tend to speak their minds. Speaking for others, seniors mean no ill will when they speak their mind. Even if they do not agree with you, you will find folks falling all over each other to assist you if you need help. Yes, this "home town" is the friendliest. Kind of hard to find another town that has friendlier people. Like I said, we are not Stepford so we do have our faults. At our ages, we expect to be excused for minor slights.

Stu from NYC 05-21-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty94 (Post 1948179)
As a female athlete, I have competed at the national and international level. In the past, I was made aware of transgender athletes competing and opted out of those competitions, as my husband, a doctor, explained the physiology advantages.

My take on transgender athletes is that they should be allowed to compete, but against each other. There should be a separate division for them. I mean, we have special olympics, para-olympics, etc. There is no need to shame or berate or call them freaks, but there are physical differences and this should be addressed so that everyone can compete in a fair and safe environment. And I emphasize the latter. If you want to see what a trans can do to women athletes, search for Fallon Fox who has fractured skulls and broken opponent’s bones. Not all sports are non-contact.

The International Olympic Committee states that an athlete has to be at a specific hormone level for only one year to qualify. The athlete does not have to undergo any surgery. This is a huge advantage for men, who might not be able to qualify in their division, to transition and compete as a woman. As Olympic and pro athletes get a great deal of endorsement money, I believe you are going to see more men going in this direction. Thus, I hope that more women will ban together and protest. After all, when the top 14-16 year old boys can crush women’s world records set in track and field, there is clearly a reason that men and women separately compete. I believe it only fair that this should remain the standard and thus a new division be created for trans athletes.

Very well said

GATORBILL66 05-21-2021 11:42 AM

Just isn't fair to real women!

Boomer 05-21-2021 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponygirl (Post 1948168)
I am appalled at the number of disrespectful, mean spirted and ugly posts today. So many adding their comments about something they know nothing.

I tried to find the posters name who posted abt African American male genitalia so that I could request that he be banned from this site. So disgusting and inappropriate. But the post must have been removed.

Nearly every day it is shocking to read what people post on Talk of the Villages. An embarrassment.

The ideal would be that this community be welcoming, kind and inclusive rather than what it is.


I agree with you completely.

This thread-start was destined (and perhaps designed) to go down this road.

I have been on TOTV since its beginning and throughout all those years, I never reported a thread. But that has changed — and I don’t like it. I flagged this one early, very early.

Yet, here we are, past 100 posts, most of which are some seriously ugly stuff.

And, yes, I also saw the one you mentioned. But I would not be surprised if the one who posted it is still among us. There was a time though when that would have meant an instant banning.

Btw, accepting though I am and a kind soul, too, I do not think transgender athletes should be allowed to compete in women’s sports. I think that because it is not fair competition and because my common sense tells me so.

That being said, I do not think hate-mongering is ever acceptable. And the subject at hand invited that and the spewing has been allowed to continue.

There is a pattern lately of certain posters being allowed to really push the envelope — actually it’s turned into more than that — it goes beyond. I do not understand why this is happening. But it is now the bent of TOTV.

(And I need to stop deluding myself that it will get better around here.)

Boomer

DeanFL 05-21-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1948199)
I agree with you completely.

This thread-start was destined (and perhaps designed) to go down this road.

I have been on TOTV since its beginning and throughout all those years, I never reported a thread. But that has changed — and I don’t like it. I flagged this one early, very early.


Yet, here we are, past 100 posts, most of which are some seriously ugly stuff.

And, yes, I also saw the one you mentioned. But I would not be surprised if the one who posted it is still among us. There was a time though when that would have meant an instant banning.

Btw, accepting though I am and a kind soul, too, I do not think transgender athletes should be allowed to compete in women’s sports. I think that because it is not fair competition and because my common sense tells me so.

That being said, I do not think hate-mongering is ever acceptable. And the subject at hand invited that and the spewing has been allowed to continue.

There is a pattern lately of certain posters being allowed to really push the envelope — actually it’s turned into more than that — it goes beyond. I do not understand why this is happening. But it is continuing to be the bent of TOTV.
(And I need to stop deluding myself that it will get better around here.)
Boomer

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sorry Boomer - DO NOT blame the 'messenger'....OP.

I felt this would be a very topical and interesting Thread. So (as usual) some responders push the envelope and vent their strong personal opinions. OF COURSE if some of these are offensive, personal, or abuse ToTV rules - DELETE and WARN, or worse, the OFFENDERS. But "destined to go down a road"??? ANY Thread can do this if some responders take it that way...

But to (often) state that the THREAD & OP is the 'problem' - is offensive to me.

So, if some abuse the rules or are offensive - do not allow others to provide their views on a good topic???

If you do have issues with "ugly stuff" flag it to the Mods - and if you are still dissatisfied email THEM.

But to stifle what could (and should) be interesting feedback and opinions of a current topic - is CANCEL Culture.
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Joe C. 05-21-2021 12:36 PM

Nothing on here is "ugly" ...... it's just normal, diverse, human reaction to a subject that is complicated and offends many people's sense of morality.

jimbomaybe 05-21-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1947534)
In other words, spread the transgenders out evenly to create a level playing field???? I don't think so.

With all the shades of grey they will have to expand the number of people on the teams to accommodate everyone will they not ?..... what a joke


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