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sipops 02-23-2021 12:23 PM

Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death. However, if you die in a car accident it is Covid related. Follow the money.

graciegirl 02-23-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1906691)
Why do you say it's "GENE THERAPY". Gene therapy is a valid treatment for some diseases. At University of Cincinnati, some years ago, they were able to alter a cell and have it "piggyback" on a cold virus into the lungs of a person with Cystic Fibrosis. It altered some lung cells in such a way to help the patient live longer.

I believe that this vaccine challenges the body's own defenses in the regular way and soon your macrophages, your soldiers, are lining up to attack it and in some cases making you sick doing it. I consider my bodies response to the second shot just that. I was tired, had headaches and ghost pains that "bit" me here and there. A very typical response to your body recognizing an invader and getting ready for it.

As I was saying;

This is a fairly good explanation as to how the vaccine works. (I don't see any money to follow)

Understanding How COVID-19 Vaccines Work | CDC

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Michread (Post 1906178)
- The Associated Press


They are smarter than we think they are! :ho:

I disagree with the whole army or military being eligible to receive the vaccine. The CDC recommends hospital workers 1st and then over 75, then over 65. Older people have the highest potential to clog up our hospitals, so I agree with the CDC. The military personnel are relatively young and healthy - I would think that logically they should be relatively last to receive a shot? States are changing CDC guidelines and the military also. It goes against medicine and science. The vaccine rollout seems arbitrary and confused.

Velvet 02-23-2021 01:43 PM

OP, you are wrong. Please read the news again.

HAWAII NEWS:

As many military personnel receive the coronavirus vaccine, 1 in 3 decide to opt out.

asianthree 02-23-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1906710)
I disagree with the whole army or military being eligible to receive the vaccine. The CDC recommends hospital workers 1st and then over 75, then over 65. .

Well if the Naval Ship, has a 80% Covid positive, and unable to perform, and there was a issue, a solution is available.

Just recruit all the 65 to 85yo to replace them. Nothing like life experience, and a Covid shot, to keep our country safe

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1906515)
People who believe there are NO deaths from the vaccine usually are the people who believe EVERYBODY dies when they get the disease. When do we start believing liars like the cdc, who or the media?

I believe the CDC because I believe in Science and NOT conspiracy lies.

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankerrich (Post 1906538)
Perhaps we should close down the internet!

I would be up for stopping the excessive LIES on various internet sites and a TV channel.

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 1906554)
So your saying all first responders should not be able to do their job if their not going to get vaccinated. What if 2/3 of the first responders refuse and your 911 call doesn’t get
dispatched ? Will you think the same way ?

That logic scenario can be flipped around - how would a person feel if they were in a car accident and then was INFECTED with CV from a 1st responder?

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 1906563)
You can’t just replace 2/3 of the military in a day . And what’s to say recruitment will go down to
1/3 of quotas if a vaccination is required . You think they should
start the draft ?

I am in favor of a draft for about 20 to 30 % of the military. The reason being that an all-volunteer army is MORE likely to try to overthrow a government than a partial civilian and drafted army. We have seen some strange things in recent years, so don't think the US is invulnerable to takeover.

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1906567)
With fewer than 3% of those who get Covid ending up on a ventilator, I don’t see the direct correlation...

Those 3 % do and we have more deadly mutations coming. Why play Russian Roulette with CV when the vaccinations can create a REAL herd immunity?

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1906578)
It's because they are Tough, and the Vaccine will weaken them!

That's a classic!

dwhite5773 02-23-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1906181)
When I was in the US Military you didn't have a choice. You got the vaccines weather you wanted them or not.

It’s because the vaccine is only authorized as an Emergency Use by the FDA. Once it is officially authorized and not as Emergency Use, trust me it will be administered to the US Military without question!

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnsocat (Post 1906624)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood the shot only protects you from getting I'll from the virus, but doesnt keep you from carrying it or giving it to others. I believe that is why they say to continue wearing mask and social distancing?
Therefore, unless you actively have the virus, anyone, in any profession should have no reason not to go to work, especially if those around them have had the shots, as they are protected.

I believe that the newest research says that if vaccinated you do NOT give it to others.

Love2Swim 02-23-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 1906531)
To anyone, don't want the Covid vaccine? Fine, just don't start whining when you find yourself on a ventilator.

And don't allow them in jobs where they can infect people who haven't been vaccinated.

dwhite5773 02-23-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1906730)
I am in favor of a draft for about 20 to 30 % of the military. The reason being that an all-volunteer army is MORE likely to try to overthrow a government than a partial civilian and drafted army. We have seen some strange things in recent years, so don't think the US is invulnerable to takeover.

Where in gods name would you ever get a stat that a all volunteer military is MORE likely too overthrow the government? 🤔 WTF?


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