Unions did that? Please explain how...

Some posters pull facts out of their... er... Thin Air... And then lecture everyone else about what THEY should do without actually doing it themselves...

Oh, and some of them HAVE ignored me...

Prezaxctly...

Same thing in B'more...

That's a pretty low bar... (runs away, hiding, as a "Commanders" fan...) :D

But, at least we finally got rid of Dan Snyder!!!

So sad the only way out of a cycle of poverty is via education. As a wise man once said a brain is a terrible thing to waste.

The children in this country would be better off if there was no such thing as a teachers union. Pay teachers in accordance with how their student do in school. Fire the bad ones. Get parents involved.

Thank you for remembering that!!!!!!! Global Warming IS the world's BIGGEST problem. It is a PHYSICAL problem. Fairness is a human quality and may be the most important of those human qualities. Remember the Golden Rule......do unto others as you would have them do unto you - that strikes me as basic FAIRNESS.

I don't believe that the US government is FORCING a potential buyer to open up their wallet when they CHOOSE to buy a E-vehicle. Personally, I would like to see US car and truck buyers purchasing EVs for 30% of new cars bought in 2027. I would also like to see The Villages come up with a program to "phase out" all gasoline golf carts by 2030.
.......If I win a state lottery I will, personally, buy back all Infernal Combustion Engine golf cars here and replace them with new E-golf carts. So, help me Tesla (I mean God lady)

Actually, what would be really nice is if we had a big 10 of E-vehicle manufacturers in the US. When IC engine automobiles began around 1900 there were probably 20 manufacturers. Today, 10 E-vehicle makers would scare the Big 3 into lowering their prices. We would have real AMERICAN competition, not the quasi-monopoly we have in vehicles today.

If I were that Doctor in the thought experiment, I WOULD DEFINITELY give that receptionist WAGES PLUS a small % of profit sharing. That way they would be less likely to try to steal money. They would stay longer in the position. And they would be more loyal.
.........People work harder and are happier when get rewarded based on their own effort.

The point is that Packers profits go back to the city in terms of things like parks and reduced taxes. The Bears just make one owner rich.

Cant deal with global warming….im still working on the new ice age i was told about in the 1970s….also the acid rain from the 1980s..amd the ozone layer depletion from the 1990s.

Please hold up all the sky is falling stuff until i deal with all these othere disasters

Except STATE governments ARE enacting such regulations...

"California is requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 and beyond are zero-emission vehicles which includes battery electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel cell electric vehicles."

There are 21 EV manufacturers in the US...

Here are the top 10: Top 10 Electric Vehicle Manufacturers in USA

But why let facts get in the way?

Wrong again...

"Who receives profits from Green Bay Packers?

Green Bay Packers is formed in the year 1923, August, it is held by the public & it is a non-profit organization. Its headquarters is in Lambeau field. Most of the packer's profit goes to its capital reserve fund."

And they are losing millions on EV’s!

Unions
 

Unions are great, spent 37 years in a union myself. 17.00 an hour for auto workers is not enough, while ceos are making millions

Not sure I agree with judgmental comments, but the process and outcome will be interesting to watch.

Here are the biggest price drops by model from the beginning of the year.

What evil government ban are you talking about?

Some folks just don't get sarcasm....

See post #133

The hourly wage is dependent on seniority. Your wage after 37 years was not 17 an hour, and that did not include the cost of your benefit package.
Biden has given the auto industry 12 billion to convert to EV production, that’s a lot of cash. The UAW wants some of that money plain and simple. The more money the more dues. A portion of the money the government gives to the auto makers, the union wants and then a portion of that goes back to a political party, 99% of the time the Democrat party in the form of contributions from the union.

Do you have a chart for 2020 to 2022?

Bravo

One point everyone seems to be missing.
 

The real behind the scene drama here is not the UAW vs the big 3, it's the UAW leader vs the UPS labor leader. The new UPS contract gave their workers a 40% increase. To stay relevant to the labor movement the UAW leader has to get that or more or he will be viewed as weak and ineffective.

Thier demands are ridiculous. The union wants a 46% raise and a 32hr work week at 40hr pay. So that's a 55% hourly wage increase and 20% less productivity. CRAZY.

First, I don’t understand how the topic that was concentrated on the UAW strike evolved into EVs and climate change. CEOs represent business and let’s be honest their ideal goal is to create a produced without people entirely. No work force, no expense, no expense, more profits. The problem with this scenario, is one company gets rid of their work force it will be followed by another, until one day they wake up and realized everyone is unemployed and there are no shoppers for their produces.

Look there has been many posting that the unions are demanding too much and don’t deserve it and because of their demands their jobs will be shipped offshore. Let make it perfectly clear if the union members agreed to take a 40% cut in their salaries and a company believes they can save a buck they will still move offshore or innovate them out of a job. Business operates on profits people are just an annoyance.
The people these companies should really be interested in is the stockholders and if I had stock in one of these companies, I would demand a 40% cut in CEOs salaries and make them get rid of these golden parachutes.

It is interesting to me that some on here seems to think uneducated equate to lack of intelligence. Some of the smartest people ive ever known were formally uneducated. Also, those that do the "work" in this country should be paid fairly. I am not privy to the details of this negotiation but I do believe blue collar workers are the back bone of this country

Mindless Union dolts ? Can you explain your disdain for fellow Americans ? 🇺🇸

Nobody would buy stock in these companies as long-term investments. May have some value as short-term speculative trades. Ford stock peaked in 1997 and (old) GM went to zero in 2009. These new contracts will make them even less competitive with the rest of the world. Even now the Chicoms can make EV's 40% cheaper. The legacy US auto companies will need large tariffs and government subsidies in order to survive.

OK, I would humbly suggest that people look at a graph of world population (hint- it starts rising sharply after about 1950). (Then even sharper in the last 10 years). Next, compare that graph to one of the CO2 increases in both the upper atmosphere and in the world's oceans.
........Here is MY logic........The LARGER population means more demand for food and wood - so forests get cut down for lumber and also to plant crops ------like the obvious destruction of the Amazon rainforest. When the forests of the WORLD are decimated (by population growth) then the CO2 produced by gasoline engines in cars, trucks, and golf cars can NOT be absorbed by the earth's plants. So, it ends up in the upper atmosphere where it reflects HEAT. Heat around the planet does things like break records for the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf surrounding Florida. That gave us Hurricane Irma which was one of the worst to ever hit the US. EXCESS CO2 also ends up in the oceans where it is KILLING coral reefs.
.......In the US only 8 % of new cars purchased are Electric. EVs use fewer PARTS than comparable IC engines so they have the potential to cost less AND fewer workers would be needed on the Big 3's assembly lines. This may explain the reluctance of the Big 3 to move RAPIDLY toward EVs. Europe produces more new EVs than the US. So, the US is likely to EVENTUALLY catch up. The UAW strike must be partly driven by the likelihood of fewer workers needed in the future.

If you bothered to read the thread, you'd know...

Excess CO2 - Check!
ICEs - Check! (at least you didn't use the term "Infernal Combustion Engine"...
Population Growth - Check!
Destruction of the Rainforest - Check!
Record Breaking temps in the Atlantic/Gulf - Check!
KILLING Coral reefs - Check!

And you completely ignore the NATURAL causes like the recent underwater volcano eruption, which spewed MASSIVE amounts of water vapor into the atmosphere. WATER VAPOR which has a MUCH GREATER effect in reflecting HEAT and warming the atmosphere...

And yet, you do nothing the help fix the problem...

Because EVs use fewer parts ........eventually they will sell for less than conventional IC engine vehicles. As I said in a previous post, the cost per unit of ANY PRODUCT that is manufactured depends on how many are made ( the run size). As EVs become more popular, they will be sold in greater numbers and then the price will come down.
......The best way to think of EVs is to compare them to early (about 1900) infernal combustion engine vehicles, which by now have 120 years of product improvement. Imagine how improved EVs could be with 120 years of product improvement. And Electric vehicles have great potential to solve the world's greatest problem, which is the HEAT reflected from the upper atmosphere (aka Global Warming). Without fairly rapid conversion to EVs, Climate Scientists predict increasing planet HEAT leading to crop failures and lots of CHAOS. We owe a better world to the next generations following us!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would say that this chart PROVES what I have been saying, that EVs use fewer parts and will go down in price. Also, this shows the VALUE of a forum where MANY people contribute (even the naysayers). Group opinion is always better than individual opinion (even mine) (that's a joke).

That's funny because I reflected sarcasm WITH sarcasm. And MY sarcasm went undetected.

They might as well go for 100% pay increase and 10 hours work 40 hours pay. If going to dream big, then dream really big. Don’t forget to add free medical for life them and all future offspring.

Funny how UAW head union bosses pay never mentioned.

Because they are way over priced to begin with.

Better watch out what say about certain subjects. I took some time off for year :shocked:

Funny how don’t affect Honda, BMW, Toyota and more foreign makes made in USA isn’t. Sooner than later enough will come to head. You can demand yourself right out of job.