Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1924232)

I do not agree with you or our governor. Public Health is at the helm of these vaccine passports for a disease that has caused a 100 year global pandemic. Enough is enough with this talk about showing proof of vaccination is infringement on our freedoms. Hogwash!

All my opinion, of course.

Originally Posted by Andyw (Post 1923871)

Today vaccination passport Tomorrow passport to leave your home. Too much government control.

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1923512)

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal to ban vaccine passports. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing, and as such, DeSantis is in favor of imposing government regulation.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

Originally Posted by jmintzer5 (Post 1923904)

500K people died "with" Covid, not "due to" Covid...

Originally Posted by BettyInFL (Post 1924262)

I would have to agree. I've had Covid (March 2020), I've had the vaccines. Why do I have to continued to be punished? If YOU still feel vulnerable, stay home, mask up, or wear a hazmat suit. Up to you. Not MY problem.

I don't read anywhere in the constitution about a right to 'feel' safe.

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bleau (Post 1923931)

Great point but the facts are a little lacking.

Let us use CDC’s own numbers back in 8/2020. It had been reported that about 165,000 people in the USA expired from COVID-19. CDC admitted that the tabulation criteria were wrong and only about 6% of those were C-19 deaths. The remainder were folks who died and the pathogen was found in their blood. So the number was actually less than 10,000.
Now coupled that with testing that had up to 40% false positives and if further reduces the number. Don’t believe it? Well a week after the inauguration the CDC and the WHO recommended changes in the testing to reduce the number of false positives in the interest of improved accuracy.
You don’t hear much of that in the mass media do you?

You see they are using numbers from an inaccurate testing system and they purposely utilize the wrong words. They should be using “died WITH C-19 in their system” NOT “died FROM C-19”. There is a difference and they know it.
EVEN WITH THE BAD TESTS, 99% of those who contract it, recover, conclusion, we surrendered our freedom, our rights and our economy for something with less than 1% fatality rate AND that is IF you get this 5% contagion pathogen.

The Office of Management & Budget has investigated the CDC reporting anc found ghat they created their own reporting system for C-19 which is a violation of at least two legislative acts and this is why the CDC since late last year has been revising the numbers. But still the media is not covering those releases.

Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1923881)

I never said they were unsafe or implied anything I simply corrected the statement that the vaccines are FDA approved, as they are not and that is not “nonsense!”

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1923512)

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal to ban vaccine passports. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing, and as such, DeSantis is in favor of imposing government regulation.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

Originally Posted by stevesliders (Post 1923963)

Why would anyone support a person who has no regard for your health and well being.

Originally Posted by MrWilson (Post 1923976)

Businesses and govt forcing a citizen to ingest any chemical, drug or chip is wrong.
When do individuals get their “ inalienable right” to be free.
Govt telling us to drug up is bad , businesses are intolerable

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1924020)

Funny thing, that "freedom to choose whom they serve" notion. You must mean it's ok for a company to enforce a policy such as "we don't serve Englishmen here" or some such, right? That's the "freedom" you're referring to?

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1924253)

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Your mileage, of course, may vary. (I wonder if the young'uns even know what that means.)

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1924281)

How does the airport know this? How do they know that you, of all the hundreds of thousands of people trying to catch a plane that day, are the ONE person not wearing a mask, has had COVID and had the vaccine? How do they know that ALL the other passengers in the airport are safe from you? How do they know that you are NOT the next Typhoid Mary?

Answer: some kind of written certified documentation. Such as, hm, oh I don't know - a passport with a stamp on a page showing the date and type of vaccine you had, maybe.