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Stu from NYC 07-11-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1801711)
Please let me try to present a different perspective.
I agree with your first sentence. The "one group" needs to be identified or the statement leaves you wondering.
Second sentence is just sad that a Federal judge would be pulled over. If asked why, I doubt the officer would have said "because you are black". There must have been more to the story than that, but some people (of all races, etc) think they are the only ones that ever get picked on. I have heard of DWI, but I don't think DWB is the only reason that one may be stopped.
I have often heard the phrase, " this country was built on the backs of Black Americans". This statement implies that only black people, and no other group, had anything to do with the creation of or the success of this country. Almost every immigrant, religious or ethnic group has used a variation of that angry, self-serving and extremely biased phrase as justification for their actions.
As to the "suppression of Black Americans", I offer that, again, every immigrant, religious or ethnic has felt some oppression at one time or another. Black Americans may have had it more so than other groups, but the experience is not unique to blacks alone, and to imply it is denigrates the struggles and successes of all other Americans.
As to the demands, I find most of them very reasonable. EVERYONE should be treated with equality, dignity and respect. And no one should feel afraid solely because of their color. But I respectfully disagree with having to "make them happy". Only you can make yourself happy. There are many people, not just in this country, but around the world who seemingly have everything they could possibly want and yet they are miserable. Others have nothing yet find joy in the simplest things. Trying to "make them happy" is an exercise in futility.
There are Black Americans in every walk of life that have become leaders, successful in their own right, with wealth, status and respect. Even the highest office in the land is not beyond reach. So, time to put away the anger and blaming of others for long past grievances, for those things only blind you to opportunities to make the country and the world a better place, with equality, dignity and respect for EVERYONE.

Well said

Gulfcoast 07-11-2020 03:12 PM

I've been pulled over before. I wonder if it's because I'm a woman. Competitive victimhood is the name of the game, folks.

Byte1 07-11-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1801711)
Please let me try to present a different perspective.
I agree with your first sentence. The "one group" needs to be identified or the statement leaves you wondering.
Second sentence is just sad that a Federal judge would be pulled over. If asked why, I doubt the officer would have said "because you are black". There must have been more to the story than that, but some people (of all races, etc) think they are the only ones that ever get picked on. I have heard of DWI, but I don't think DWB is the only reason that one may be stopped.
I have often heard the phrase, " this country was built on the backs of Black Americans". This statement implies that only black people, and no other group, had anything to do with the creation of or the success of this country. Almost every immigrant, religious or ethnic group has used a variation of that angry, self-serving and extremely biased phrase as justification for their actions.
As to the "suppression of Black Americans", I offer that, again, every immigrant, religious or ethnic has felt some oppression at one time or another. Black Americans may have had it more so than other groups, but the experience is not unique to blacks alone, and to imply it is denigrates the struggles and successes of all other Americans.
As to the demands, I find most of them very reasonable. EVERYONE should be treated with equality, dignity and respect. And no one should feel afraid solely because of their color. But I respectfully disagree with having to "make them happy". Only you can make yourself happy. There are many people, not just in this country, but around the world who seemingly have everything they could possibly want and yet they are miserable. Others have nothing yet find joy in the simplest things. Trying to "make them happy" is an exercise in futility.
There are Black Americans in every walk of life that have become leaders, successful in their own right, with wealth, status and respect. Even the highest office in the land is not beyond reach. So, time to put away the anger and blaming of others for long past grievances, for those things only blind you to opportunities to make the country and the world a better place, with equality, dignity and respect for EVERYONE.

Thank you. Sometimes one needs to state the obvious numerous times before an inkling seeps through what seems to be a concrete barrier on some folks.
Isn't it interesting that our Chinese Americans are not protesting in the streets because they built the rail road? How about our Japanese Americans that were interned/imprisoned in camps during WWII? Everyone has a gripe if they want to assume some form of liability against an ancestor. Time for some to quit making excuses and instead, thank their god that they were born or immigrated to this great country. Half the world (at least) if asked what country would they live in if given a chance, would say the U.S. of A. And they would end up being better citizens than at least half the ones living today.

Systemic Racism is a lie, period.

sallybowron 07-11-2020 04:26 PM

Who said they are alright? I had not heard that.

taruffi57 07-11-2020 04:36 PM

Go to thefreedomarticles.com and click on the blue and red Coronavirus article. It is the facts about COVID-19. You are going to be surprised.

rakopacz@comcast.net 07-11-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

Of course they’re not. But you can’t protest while sitting at home can you?

Gulfcoast 07-11-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rakopacz@comcast.net (Post 1801781)
Of course they’re not. But you can’t protest while sitting at home can you?

But a citizen refusing to wear a mask out of protest - not o.k.

tvbound 07-11-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanny32162 (Post 1801493)
Backed by "one group", which group please is an ambiguous statement. A black Federal judge is a member of our family; he has been stopped for "driving while black" many times. How ofter are white people stopped for "driving while white"? The list goes on and on. This country was built on the backs of Black Americans, but never have they been given the opportunities of other ethnic groups. Suppression has always been the key in the treatment of Black Americans. Suppress a group long enough and they will rise up.

Their demands? To be able to live without fear. To be treated with equality, respect, and dignity. Make them happy, not to be killed because they are black.


"Suppression has always been the key in the treatment of Black Americans."



Anyone who bothers to study history, even if they refuse to publicly acknowledge it, can't help but know your statement as being true.

From slavery, to Reconstruction handled mostly by southern officials, to Jim Crow laws, to intimidation by glorifying confederate leaders with statues and monuments, to a lack of effort in prosecuting racist law enforcement, to laws trying to limit black turnout, etc., proves it.

Nanny32162 07-11-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1801711)
Please let me try to present a different perspective.
I agree with your first sentence. The "one group" needs to be identified or the statement leaves you wondering.
Second sentence is just sad that a Federal judge would be pulled over. If asked why, I doubt the officer would have said "because you are black". There must have been more to the story than that, but some people (of all races, etc) think they are the only ones that ever get picked on. I have heard of DWI, but I don't think DWB is the only reason that one may be stopped.
I have often heard the phrase, " this country was built on the backs of Black Americans". This statement implies that only black people, and no other group, had anything to do with the creation of or the success of this country. Almost every immigrant, religious or ethnic group has used a variation of that angry, self-serving and extremely biased phrase as justification for their actions.
As to the "suppression of Black Americans", I offer that, again, every immigrant, religious or ethnic has felt some oppression at one time or another. Black Americans may have had it more so than other groups, but the experience is not unique to blacks alone, and to imply it is denigrates the struggles and successes of all other Americans.
As to the demands, I find most of them very reasonable. EVERYONE should be treated with equality, dignity and respect. And no one should feel afraid solely because of their color. But I respectfully disagree with having to "make them happy". Only you can make yourself happy. There are many people, not just in this country, but around the world who seemingly have everything they could possibly want and yet they are miserable. Others have nothing yet find joy in the simplest things. Trying to "make them happy" is an exercise in futility.
There are Black Americans in every walk of life that have become leaders, successful in their own right, with wealth, status and respect. Even the highest office in the land is not beyond reach. So, time to put away the anger and blaming of others for long past grievances, for those things only blind you to opportunities to make the country and the world a better place, with equality, dignity and respect for EVERYONE.

The excuse our family member was given is that he was "driving a nice car similar to one that had been reported stolen." As soon as he produced his identification, there was much backpedaling by the officers. He is not the only upper middle class Black person I know who has been pulled over for no obvious reason. The response is almost always "driving a car similar to one that was reported stolen." I guess they don't bother checking license plates.

You also have to remember that other ethnic groups, who have had struggles but been assimilated, came here of their own volition and are white. After the accent disappears, usually with the first generation, there is nothing to denote that the children of immigrants are different from other white Americans.

OETTING 07-11-2020 06:14 PM

That wasn’t much of a reach, was it!

Stu from NYC 07-11-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1801755)
Thank you. Sometimes one needs to state the obvious numerous times before an inkling seeps through what seems to be a concrete barrier on some folks.
Isn't it interesting that our Chinese Americans are not protesting in the streets because they built the rail road? How about our Japanese Americans that were interned/imprisoned in camps during WWII? Everyone has a gripe if they want to assume some form of liability against an ancestor. Time for some to quit making excuses and instead, thank their god that they were born or immigrated to this great country. Half the world (at least) if asked what country would they live in if given a chance, would say the U.S. of A. And they would end up being better citizens than at least half the ones living today.

Systemic Racism is a lie, period.

Very well said thank you for your post. If only our politicians would speak out on the above in an honest manner.

Gulfcoast 07-11-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1801791)
"Suppression has always been the key in the treatment of Black Americans."



Anyone who bothers to study history, even if they refuse to publicly acknowledge it, can't help but know your statement as being true.

From slavery, to Reconstruction handled mostly by southern officials, to Jim Crow laws, to intimidation by glorifying confederate leaders with statues and monuments, to a lack of effort in prosecuting racist law enforcement, to laws trying to limit black turnout, etc., proves it.

Explain how rioting, looting and babies getting shot to death in their car seats is in any way helping or elevating anyone or why injustices that happened a hundred years ago is reason to destroy once prospering businesses and ruin lives?

Black, white, red, green - who is benefiting from this?

anothersteve 07-11-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1801328)
This group is the most heinous, incendiary and terroristic bunch of people who continue to be given free rein by the mealy mouth politicians and business entities who are afraid to lose votes or business. Our first amendment rights are being systematically destroyed. No one has the guts to speak up for fear of offending the perpetually offended crowd. I speak up for America and against those who wish to destroy her. I emigrated from a communist country (Cuba) and what's happening here happens there daily. The similarities are terrifying and If we want totalitarianism and oppression, look no further than 90 miles south of Key West.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves."
- D.H. Lawrence.

Think about it.

I wish I could like this twice.
Steve

TexaninVA 07-11-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1801024)
Don't forget political rallies! Oh, wait. Not very many people actually attend those... :1rotfl:

That's actually true for one side in particular .... :1rotfl:

TexaninVA 07-11-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1801373)
Fear of BLM is their way to take control. This is a racist, hateful, terrorist group. They are fully backed by one group. Make a donation to them and follow the money, easy to do.

Enough protesting. What are their demands? Who is in charge of them? What the heck will make them happy?

Nothing will make them happy because all they do is raise the bar every time we give in.

The question is what will stop them? Answer is when the police finally use what's in their holsters. It's the only language the Marxists historically have ever understood.


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