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Scott O 11-12-2020 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1859454)
Where are you getting that “news” from? Here is a link to the CDC site showing the percentage of occupied ICU beds across the USA. These numbers fall into the same normal range as you would have without the Coronavirus.
https://healthdata.gov/sites/default...01108_2221.csv
Another example of main stream media spreading false information as facts...

Exactly....thanks, those with even an iota of logic have gotten that...

diane reynolds 11-12-2020 05:47 AM

Shortly you will be out of news.

Coal Miner 11-12-2020 05:53 AM

I dont know what media you listen to, but I heard a lot about spreading covid during the protests.

Mrprez 11-12-2020 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coal Miner (Post 1859648)
I dont know what media you listen to, but I heard a lot about spreading covid during the protests.

So, why are you keeping your sources a secret. Let us all know! Post them here. Do it now!😀

CalMar 11-12-2020 06:16 AM

Perfectly stated.

nick demis 11-12-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1859359)
We still don't know everything about this virus. It can sometimes take longer for the spread to show up. The Sturgis biker rally is a good example. That area is really bad. For such a remote state, this can be the only reason why it's so bad right now.

Do you realize how long ago the Sturgis rally was? You need to try to use actual reason instead of living with fear.

nick demis 11-12-2020 06:43 AM

The politicians now say they want to spread out the virus over a long time and are finally admitting that a huge percentage of the population will eventually get the virus. Since this is the case, why not get it over sooner than later. Time to start living your life instead of living in fear.

Girlcopper 11-12-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1859375)
Just be thankful The Villages is not like South Florida YET. Fortunately we do not have the same demographics.

What??? Its exactly the same. Older retired people, snowbirds, visitors, family from out of state, grandkids coming and using facilities. It Couldnt be more the same.

2314samship 11-12-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 1859470)
The weather now in FL is less conducive for virus spreading. which is great, more outdoor life, less air conditioning and indoor activities. Up North in New England, a week long church event put a couple dozen people in the hospital as well as some ice hockey games. And the hospitalizations are starting to rise without any super spreader events, due to more conducive weather for spreading, drier air and indoor activities. In TV, I would expect less hospitalization rates now through April than during the summer.

So hockey games are getting hospitalized with COVID or were the church people playing hockey and had to be hospitalized with their injuries?

Cheapbas 11-12-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1859242)
Interesting how the news media tells us what to think. We all heard about how the recent rally in The Villages would be another Super Spreader event. “Peaceful protests” were okay according to the media, but rallies were Super Spreaders. Now that more than two weeks have passed since the rally and there has been no surge of new cases, you have heard nothing more from the media. The media sells fear to promote their agenda. They tell you what you should believe. And because they package it as “news” people accept it as fact.

A super spreader event to me would be a large number of people, packed shoulder to shoulder, yelling, screaming, laughing and no masks. I view it two ways, something that has already occurred (like the rose garden party) and something that has the potential to become one (like several presidential rallies where you could see people not adhering to standards in the backdrop).

There’s a concerted effort ongoing in this country to divide the country in two by promoting an “us vs them” strategy. They use terms like “ fear mongering” and “ fake news”, both terms heavily pushed by one side to accomplish this. It’s meant to promote an alternate set of facts they can sell so you to drive disbelief in the other side’s reporting.

When you disbelieve news about this virus, which not only kills but damages your organs enough your life expectancy can be shortened, it’s a concern for everyone in the villages

When a possible super spreader event turns out to not be one, it’s time to be thankful, not time to point fingers at the media.

Don5154 11-12-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1859423)
Huh?

Hospitals are starting to overflow across the country?

And you are getting your information from ?
:bigbow:

CoachKandSportsguy 11-12-2020 07:23 AM

For those who don't believe states running out of beds, acute care plus intensive care see the idaho state web site for utilization and utilization warning levels. . . COVID-19 Surveillance

Note the fastest increase is in acute care beds, and that the total threshold is approaching the critical 85% which means that there isn't enough beds for expected nursing capacity, staff and ICU beds for non covid expectations. . . and some proportion of acute care moves to intensive care. . . .

I read a tweet of a person I know, used to work in my past industry, and his brother in law is a med flight pilot:

Bro-in law is life flight pilot

His company is transporting COVID patients from UT and ID to hospitals in Portland because no more beds in those states


So what part of the hospitals running out of beds do you not believe? or are you just cherry picking numbers to support your belief, which is blatant confirmation bias, the basis of idealogues. . . or you just listen to demagogues because you can't adapt to new or change. . .

And how much data and hospital experience do you all really have? or are you using your expert google degree? The mis-use of information by both media and government is so blatant when you are privy to actual hospital data by named individual, as my wife does. And I have done data analytics / forecasting for a living for the last 30 years, and easily see cherry picking data to represent their reality, which means that they want a certain reality or outcome. . .

The other problem of the deniers, is that when the surge does come, like in Oklahoma a few months earlier, most conveniently forget and move on to the next idealogue confirmation stat, which is always take out of context with incorrect context. . .

must be the bubble effect. . .

mydavid 11-12-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1859242)
Interesting how the news media tells us what to think. We all heard about how the recent rally in The Villages would be another Super Spreader event. “Peaceful protests” were okay according to the media, but rallies were Super Spreaders. Now that more than two weeks have passed since the rally and there has been no surge of new cases, you have heard nothing more from the media. The media sells fear to promote their agenda. They tell you what you should believe. And because they package it as “news” people accept it as fact.

Wait for it!!!

MandoMan 11-12-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1859242)
Interesting how the news media tells us what to think. We all heard about how the recent rally in The Villages would be another Super Spreader event. “Peaceful protests” were okay according to the media, but rallies were Super Spreaders. Now that more than two weeks have passed since the rally and there has been no surge of new cases, you have heard nothing more from the media. The media sells fear to promote their agenda. They tell you what you should believe. And because they package it as “news” people accept it as fact.

This is true of media with many different slants. Some are much more accurate than others. Some tend to spread conspiracies. Many are alarmist. This is especially a problem with television news. For example, how many millions of people hours have been wasted listening to alarmist news about Tropical Storm Eta, which is supposedly passing overhead at this moment. There seems to be a mild breeze. There was a little rain yesterday.

I get my weather news online from Weather Underground, which seems to be the least alarmist and the most accurate. I don’t watch television news at all. I avoid both left wing and right wing news sources, and for what is in the middle, if I see a slant in the reporting, I take it into account and DIScount it.

We have certainly seen the virus spread in groups small and large, from the motorcycle rally in Sturgis to funerals to home cooked meals for the extended family to the White House. Who knows where and when? If you went to the rally at the polo field and didn’t get sick, count your blessings. You took a risk, and you got away with it. I know too many people who have gotten sick, and some have died. I don’t want to be among that number. I’m looking forward to getting vaccinated, then trying to return to normal.

Joorn59 11-12-2020 07:45 AM

If you follow the Florida data> average new cases IN OUR ZIP CODE (32162) per week had been 20 since mid summer. After the rally the average weekly number has risen to 30 (week of October 25th) to 36 (week of November 1). We’re trending up so be very careful.
Fla data link below

Experience


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