The implication of your post, by questioning why you don’t see answers, is that there is some nefarious reason for the “silence”, when if fact there is no silence. The are answers, there is information, there are answers to all your questions.

They might not be the answers you want to hear, and you may need to carefully read the answer several times to get what they are saying.

In general their answers have been like, it is difficult to get precise numbers or death rates because things like testing has been curtailed (think political). So, any numbers we (CDC) have are based on limited data and the numbers are probably low do to under reporting.

The CDC is cursed when it prematurely makes announcements on preliminary data, and they are accuse of “hiding the truth” or lying when the hold off making announcement until they have solid valid data, and then they are accused of political flip flopping when new data shows things are different or changing.

There is definitely a political agenda to discredit the CDC. And this is clearly shown when you look at who trusts the CDC and who doesn’t.

So, you believe in a nefarious agenda that you can’t figure out, but are sure it exists…

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I'm looking forward to what the CDC has to say today, and see if it is different (or backtracked) from what they said Tuesday. If so, it would suggest (not conclusively prove) that they are going along with a political agenda and not the science of epidemiology[/QUOTE

I posted a link to the CDC report in another thread. The assertion that this is some sort of political stunt is laughable. Our government is not the only one on earth sounding the alarm

Here is a well written article about Israel, the most vaccinated country in the world, and it includes links to actual studies they are doing. Israel is reimposing indoor mask guidelines.

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COVID-19 Case Data in Israel: A Troubling Trend?

[QUOTE=S=kBlogW;1980626]Not a political "stunt" by any means. I suggested that the data can be presented in such a way as to bias the public toward a desired political agenda, or not. Let's see. Please read carefully, I admit that I sometimes write in such a way that not all can understand.

Seems to me that a whole lot of people are getting hysterical over the "Delta" but have not chose to look at the death rate lately. Just because it is very contagious, does not equate to being as deadly. Maybe that will change, but right now the death rate is very low.

"FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine"

Hmmm, isn't "authorized" a synonym for "approved?"
Would the vaccines be released without approval? Would our gov. approve of an "unapproved" medication?

Sorry, but giving the suggestion that the vaccine is NOT approved is a dog that don't hunt. If one needs an excuse for their fear, I guess that might convince some.

CERTAINLY A VERY strong statement you make, but still waiting for the conclusive proof you talk of.

Will you be standing tall and advising us of this proof, or simply walk into the sunset ?

Excuse me…..I said STATEMENT you owed the forum…….it is an ACCUSATION for which you need to give your “conclusive” proof.

This is very true. Unfortunately at this point in time, the death rate is almost impossible to calculate because of all the testing being shut down. So, as the CDC said a couple of days ago, they have to assume the numbers they are getting are seriously underreported.

Which if the number of cases is seriously underreported, then the death rate is actually overestimated. But, see that is an assumption - science really tries to avoid assumptions. And without good data it is very hard to come to good conclusions.

He won't. EVERY single post he makes contact with misinformation that has been banned on various outlets because they have been PROVEN wrong over and over again. Don't bother feeding the troll. It doesn't work. It just gives them pleasure at being responded to.

EDIT: Byte1, I am not referring to you, but to the post, you were referring to:

EDIT: Grr, all that below is sort of wrong - sigh. My bad: From the FDA itself - sigh...

"On December 11, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued the first emergency use authorization (EUA) for a vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older."


EDIT: The below is partially wrong and partially right.

Hmm, interesting, I don't want to waste my time researching this because it is just more MISINFORMATION.

But, it seems I recall that the FDA can not give "emergency use authorization" that is the domain of the CDC. When something is needed NOW and can't wait for the FDA to finish all its paperwork, the CDC can be requested to evaluate and approve a EUA. If granted by the CDC the drug (or whatever) can then be used in the specified situations. the CDCs EUA was/is posted on their website. It has expired. But, is being discussed being reissued based on how long the FDA believes it is going to need to finish it's paperwork. The FDA has given NO indication it is not going to authorize it, just the opposite.

So, it is just playing word games, technically the FDA has not approved it. implying it is not safe. When the reality is the CDC went through exhaustive testing (some failed) to come to the EUA they authorized. Obviously, not everything the FDA would do was done - because it was an emergency. So, we are not sure if all technicians working on the production were/are certified. But about the efficacy and short-term safety, there is NO doubt period.

So, this is one more of those bits of "misinformation" that are putting people's lives at risk, resulting in deaths.

Sadly, I do think most of the people we see posting misinformation here, actually believe it. Which makes it even more dangerous.