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Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1922297)
They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

Perfectly, totally, completely wrong! To carry a firearm openly or concealed in Georgia requires a permit. The only places in Georgia you can carry a weapon openly or concealed without a firearm permit is in your home, your privately owned business, in your car and while hunting if you hold a hunting license. Google is your friend.

Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1922338)
Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.

Agree, he is a nut job. From what I read he carried the handguns hidden in his clothing and the rifle and shotgun in a bag. Article didn't say if it was a gun case or just some kind of bag. It is illegal in Georgia to carry a firearm openly or concealed in public without a permit.

Taltarzac725 03-28-2021 09:58 PM

Get more intelligent discussion of mental health in our communities across the nation. Bring in experts from many fields and have them put together programs in their communities which are easy to use and do not require a lawyer to explain.

You could probably help with this. What is in your hometown library for those with mental illness and/or being bullied or bullying? How about on your hometown law enforcement web-sites for helping those with mental illness?

stanley 03-29-2021 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1922337)
You’re post will get deleted like mine when calling him out.

And mine. It happens a lot.

mike234 03-29-2021 05:34 AM

another off the news story is that Cuomo is still in office, and is going nowhere. the outraged democrats have "just moved on, nothing to see here". the joke is on women, your politicians do not believe your stories about sexual harassment. and you vote for them over and over and over.......

Tmarkwald 03-29-2021 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1921621)
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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns


(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN

It depends on who the target was going to be. Since January, outrage against shootings is only if the targets are certain groups of people. The majority are OK to target so not newsworthy.

Doesn't fit the narrative that's been presented since January...

johnnascar 03-29-2021 06:16 AM

you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed

Neils 03-29-2021 06:26 AM

Chicago is the shining example of tough gun control laws. Also a poster child for killings. About 30 every weekend.

Only the law abiding citizens follow the law and are disarmed and defenseless from the thugs

Gun control means easy pickings for armed criminals

mike234 03-29-2021 06:58 AM

one last thing gun owners. they are not going to do anything like take our guns away. talk, talk, talk, if they haven't done it by now. they never will. they don't really care because every shooting is a political gain for someone, and a political loss for someone else....
the joke is on the American people...

pamhobbs 03-29-2021 07:43 AM

More guns is so stupid...there are no words

Bay Kid 03-30-2021 06:54 AM

How about the 2 teenager girls that killed the Uber driver in DC by using a taser this past weekend. If you even heard about this they blame the Uber driver, not the girls.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

DeanFL 03-30-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1923060)
How about the 2 teenager girls that killed the Uber driver in DC by using a taser this past weekend. If you even heard about this they blame the Uber driver, not the girls.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

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I saw the video of this "event" last night on the news. It almost made me sick to my stomach - really. 2 "girls, 13 & 15 walked up to a car and tazed the driver. As he was pleading for them to stop, holding onto the car side, they sped off and crashed the car a couple blocks later - car rolled over and pinned the man, died. Mohammad Anwar, 66, was making deliveries for Uber Eats.

He was a Pakistani immigrant - WORKING. These SCUM girls - of course most articles re this NEVER mention their race. You KNOW if it WAS a "RACE THING", Media would... Just to show the "girls" concern, after the crash with the car on its side with the man pinned - all one said was "My phone is inside!".

A horrible story. Wonder if Pakastanis will protest, riot, etc because of this ouright murder? sure...

here's an article re>>>>

2 Teen Girls Charged With Murder In Carjacking Death Of Uber Eats Driver | HuffPost


OH- to make matters worse, after the "killing">
WASHINGTON — D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser is facing backlash for a tweet over the weekend that some are calling tone deaf.

The tweet, from the mayor's official Twitter account, read, "Auto theft is a crime of opportunity," and included a video of Metropolitan Police Department officers giving tips to prevent auto theft and carjackings.

The tweet has since been deleted, but it faced swift criticism online, in light of a recent carjacking that left 66-year-old Muhammad Anwar dead.

"Mayor Bowser keeps finding new lows," one user wrote. "Immigrants and citizens of DC deserve better."
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JMintzer 03-30-2021 07:57 AM

I find it interesting that this dummy has heard Biden, Harris, Feinstein, Beto (who Biden is putting in charge of the "gun problem") all say that want to ban and take away certain guns...

But nobody wants to take your guns...

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NonResident 04-24-2021 09:14 AM

There's a very nice quad-graph to explain how incidents are handled.

CRIME WITH A GUN:
If the perpetrator is a conservative, then it's right-wing extremism.
If the perpetrator is a progressive, then the gun is at fault.
If the perpetrator is white, then it's right-wing extremism.
If the perpetrator is anyone else, then the gun is at fault.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-24-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1922338)
Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.

In the state of Georgia, where this occurred, the only law broken was carrying the firearm while loaded out of the bathroom. It was LEGAL to bring the unloaded firearm INTO Publix. It was LEGAL to bring ammo INTO Publix. It was legal to carry both items around the store, and into the bathroom. That is 100% totally completely legal in Georgia, without any permit required. That is Georgia law.

The only thing that was illegal was him loading the firearm and walking out of the bathroom with it after it was loaded.

He never fired the rifle, there was no mass shooting.

In the state of Georgia, this is a non-issue. This is what THEIR 2A rights look like, in Georgia.

justjim 04-24-2021 09:44 AM

This is nonsense. Nobody is coming for our guns... this thread like many has turned political and I’m sick of making everything political. Give it a rest.

NonResident 04-24-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1934500)
This is nonsense. Nobody is coming for our guns... this thread like many has turned political and I’m sick of making everything political. Give it a rest.


Lol... by what logic do you assume this is true? The United States is one of the few countries that still allows guns. Do you remember in Australia when they banned guns and literally confiscated them? Millions and millions of guns... they went door to door taking guns from residents: Thousands of Australian Guns are Destroyed (1997) - YouTube

You have politicians LITERALLY SAYING they're going to take our guns.

The SOLE purpose for the 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting, or because people like to collect and buy guns, it's because the population needs to defend themselves AGAINST a tyrannical government, and against foreign invaders. Period.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-24-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NonResident (Post 1934518)
Lol... by what logic do you assume this is true? The United States is one of the few countries that still allows guns. Do you remember in Australia when they banned guns and literally confiscated them? Millions and millions of guns... they went door to door taking guns from residents: Thousands of Australian Guns are Destroyed (1997) - YouTube

You have politicians LITERALLY SAYING they're going to take our guns.

The SOLE purpose for the 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting, or because people like to collect and buy guns, it's because the population needs to defend themselves AGAINST a tyrannical government, and against foreign invaders. Period.

Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.

So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.

Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.

GrumpyOldMan 04-24-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1922119)
Media only wants to promote crazy white guy who is not a muslim.

If they cannot pigeonhole them into that category will move on to the next one

I disagree completely. Media wants one thing, and one thing only - to maximize profits.

Every article, every spin on every article is evaluated for how much money it will make.

very media outlet has a target market, some focus on. liberals and some focus on conservatives. Few, if any, try to cater to both, because they would lose their audience if they did.

And lastly NO ONE (in general) wants to hear/read the truth. The vast majority of people scan headlines and only read articles that confirm what they already believe.

A few, a very small number, of people actually go out of their way to read news they disagree with,.

JMintzer 04-24-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1934559)
Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

Gun owners are doing that? All of them? Or are you talking about "ILLEGAL" gun owners?

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They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.
Oh, really?

Battle of Athens (1946 - Wikipedia)

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So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.
See above...

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Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.
I've got a crazy idea... How 'bout we start enforcing those laws already being broken before we start passing new laws that they not enforce?

You may -think- you're "absolutely pro 2-A, but you're not even close...

All those things you'd like cost $$$... Lot's of $$$

So, you're in favor of a "poll tax" for gun owners, disenfranchising the poor from being able to purchase a gun to defend themselves...

Just curious, what are your views on Voter ID? Is it "too burdensome" or even, dare I say, "RACIST" to require an ID to vote?

Does it disenfranchise poor voters or minority voters?

stanley 04-24-2021 03:50 PM

"Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. "BUT"

The "BUT" part always cracks me up and makes me shake my head

Joe V. 04-24-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnascar (Post 1922424)
you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed


What is an assault rifle, your definition, please. Being black and scary?

stanley 04-24-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnascar (Post 1922424)
you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed

Given that argument.........fight fire with fire, I'm good with that.

Topspinmo 04-24-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1922243)
It's proved to be great for business for the gun and ammo manufacturers though, to keep scaring the easily gullible people by constantly saying it.


ANd where most of the these guns and ammo made. Northeast aNd California. Funny how they want to control type of guns but ok with them making them i theatre state.

jimjamuser 04-24-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1921651)
If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.

So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!

This is ridiculous and would NEVER work - you say? Not so say I.....use your google machine......
Australia did just about this VERY thing several years ago - they bought and melted down ALL their citizens semi-autos ( I think that they allowed bolt actions, not sure). They did it quickly, not in 3 generations. And since that buyback, there has been ZERO MASS MURDERS in Australia!!!!!!! Check that out sport fans!

stanley 04-24-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1934690)
So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You do have a sense of humor!

JMintzer 04-25-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1934690)
So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!

This is ridiculous and would NEVER work - you say? Not so say I.....use your google machine......
Australia did just about this VERY thing several years ago - they bought and melted down ALL their citizens semi-autos ( I think that they allowed bolt actions, not sure). They did it quickly, not in 3 generations. And since that buyback, there has been ZERO MASS MURDERS in Australia!!!!!!! Check that out sport fans!

Australia had almost ZERO MSASS MURDERS before their "so called" gun ban.

They knee jerked their way to the ban...

And now? There are more guns owned than before the "ban"...

Northwoods 04-25-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1934559)
Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.

So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.

Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.

OBB. I agree with you.

I agree with you about mandatory background checks, classroom and target instruction.
I believe guns should be treated like owning a car and having a Drivers license.
I don’t have an issue with banning assault weapons. I can’t imagine a reason for having one.
I believe there are many law-abiding people who own guns. They should be able to own guns.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 04-26-2021 08:20 AM

This story was on network news
 
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1921621)
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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns


(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN

3 days in a row I haven’t read many of the responses because I figure I already know the responses, like he was black, liberal press , blah , blah, blah the main reason it died down I suspect is because of the old newspaper saying If It Bleeds It Leads , nobody bleed , end of story.

billethkid 04-26-2021 08:44 AM

There is a significant consistency in discussions about recent shootings and that is the mis-understood and inappropriate categorization of weapons used as "ASSAULT RIFLES".

In the majority of cases they are not.

The following goes a long way to educate the meaning of AR....

Modern Sporting Rifle: Introduction • NSSF

(Some will fault the article source....if one doesn't like this one just google "what is an assault rifle"....they all state the same)

It is recognized that becoming aware of the real description it will not be acknowledged by the anti gun agenda, jargon, rhetoric and special interest urban legends.

JMintzer 04-26-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1935324)
OBB. I agree with you.

I agree with you about mandatory background checks, classroom and target instruction.
I believe guns should be treated like owning a car and having a Drivers license.
I don’t have an issue with banning assault weapons. I can’t imagine a reason for having one.
I believe there are many law-abiding people who own guns. They should be able to own guns.

Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-26-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1935539)
Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

No other constitutionally protected right involves targets. Not sure where you thought you were going with that one.

There are, however, rules and regs for all other constitutionally protected rights. Each right comes with it certain responsibilities. Like, freedom of religion for example:

You have the right to practice your religion. HOWEVER: if practicing your religion requires that you stop in the middle of the highway because it's noon, getting out of your car, laying a prayer mat down, and praying on your knees facing Mecca for 5 minutes every day, then no - you don't have that right.

Back to weapons: it is illegal to possess a grenade or a bomb. Those are weapons, and it's been illegal to posses them since 1938. I don't hear anyone hollering about those, why the fuss about semi-automatic weapons? Buy a rifle or pistol if that's what you'd like to do. Nothing wrong with it. Just make sure it's registered, and make sure you know how to use it, how NOT to use it, when to use it, when NOT to use it. Make sure that if you plan on using it on a person, you don't miss.

It's not much to ask, really.

JMintzer 04-26-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1935578)
No other constitutionally protected right involves targets. Not sure where you thought you were going with that one.

There are, however, rules and regs for all other constitutionally protected rights. Each right comes with it certain responsibilities. Like, freedom of religion for example:

You have the right to practice your religion. HOWEVER: if practicing your religion requires that you stop in the middle of the highway because it's noon, getting out of your car, laying a prayer mat down, and praying on your knees facing Mecca for 5 minutes every day, then no - you don't have that right.

Nice red herring...

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Back to weapons: it is illegal to possess a grenade or a bomb. Those are weapons, and it's been illegal to posses them since 1938.
No, you most certainly can own a grenade. Just get the proper tax stamp...

As for a bomb... Define what kind of bomb...

But we're not talking about those. You just threw that in to muddy up the conversation...

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I don't hear anyone hollering about those, why the fuss about semi-automatic weapons? Buy a rifle or pistol if that's what you'd like to do. Nothing wrong with it. Just make sure it's registered, and make sure you know how to use it, how NOT to use it, when to use it, when NOT to use it. Make sure that if you plan on using it on a person, you don't miss.

It's not much to ask, really.
Yes, why the fuss about "semi-automatic" weapons?

You do realize that the vast majority of pistols and rifles sold are "semi-automatic" weapons, don't you? Or are you talking about something of which you have no knowledge?

And why should I be required to register anything? Registration leads to confiscation. It's happened over and over again...

Make sure I know how to use it? Not really that hard... When to use it? Again, not really that hard...

Don't miss? Did you know that the "trained law enforcement officers", you know, the ones people love to say should be the only ones who have guns? Those guys... They only hit their target 30% of the time... Adrenaline is a bitch...

Lindsyburnsy 04-26-2021 02:15 PM

More guns is nonsense. I do not want to be in a store, restaurant or anywhere else for that matter where there's a nut job who thinks he has to hitch a long gun to his backside and yet, it's inconvenient for this same guy to wear a mask? Please.

Northwoods 04-26-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1935539)
Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

Joe V. 04-26-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1935871)
As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

Wrong. You may still own a machine gun if allowed in your state. FL is one of these states. A FFL is the easiest way to obtain one, along with money to pay for it. The machine gun must be registered with the Federal government though.

JMintzer 04-26-2021 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1935871)
As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

Nope. Perfectly legal to own a fully auto machine gun. Just do the required paperwork and it's yours.

Of course it'll cost a pretty penny, but it perfectly legal...

But could you tell me who was talking about fully automatic weapons?

I know I wasn't...

JMintzer 04-26-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1935721)
More guns is nonsense. I do not want to be in a store, restaurant or anywhere else for that matter where there's a nut job who thinks he has to hitch a long gun to his backside and yet, it's inconvenient for this same guy to wear a mask? Please.

Where exactly, is this happening? And what in the world does it have to do with wearing a mask?

Would you feel better if the said "nut job" was wearing a mask?

JMintzer 04-26-2021 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1935871)
I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

When was the last time someone used a machine gun in a crime?

Northwoods 04-26-2021 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1935882)
Wrong. You may still own a machine gun if allowed in your state. FL is one of these states. A FFL is the easiest way to obtain one, along with money to pay for it. The machine gun must be registered with the Federal government though.

Based on my internet search it says that you can own a machine gun if it was made before 1981. Plus it takes 3 -5 months to process. And there are a few additional hoops to jump through.
I’m just saying.... I’m not a fan of rapid fire weapons. That is my opinion.


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