What they say is not the whole truth & nothing but the truth.

If the thugs can USE racism to get rid of the cops, then it would be whole lot easier for them to do what they really want.

BLM has been funded and enabled by big-money so they are able to get a lot of training to facilitate their goals which are oddly alignEd very well with the thugs’ goals.

Where are the police, or, as is the case in Seattle, the liberal leadership has told law enforcement to stand down and not to hurt the snowflakes?

I personally take offense to your post! No not the part where you responded to the other post. I take offense to “Go Steelers”. Just because they’re better than the Jets you don’t have to constantly remind me. That’s just cruel.

I'm confused.

Who is it that made these 3 "thug" cops... racist? :oops:

Many conservative-dominated communities have also allowed the riots, looting and destruction. Why that is being allowed is unclear. Certainly the leaders don’t want to hurt peaceful protesters. They must also fear of the media’s inevitable use of imagery to further harm the community. Many are sympathetic (as most Americans are) with the need to promote equal justice. In short, they fear perception more than they fear an existential threat. They are wrong. This would become clear if they tell everyone the truth...all of it.

The media is also completely failing the American people by not producIng independent content. The mainstream news producers have been spoon-fed content for so long they are completely dysfunctional. The media—or even the old town crier— played an essential role by asking tough questions and by using their access and platform to hold leaders to account. I think of a well-functioning news media like the ferets of society (if you know anything about those curiosity-driven critters) They should be reporting ALL aspects of this and turning over the rocks to show us what is really going on. We should ALL be angry at their failure.

These are uneducated bums with no goals or any desire for a better future for themselves. They are spoiled, have no responsibility, no accountability for their actions and most of all NO RESPECT for authority. I saw the president of BLM on TV in an interview yesterday. He spoke like a street thug, looked like a street thug, is a street thug. He unequivocally stated that if they didn’t get what they want, they would burn society down. They demean the blacks that are honest and truly are trying to make a difference. The only hope for these thugs is bringing back the draft. For both make and female. They need to learn respect for authority, they need discipline, and learn how to function as a team.
God help us. This anarchy needs to stop!

Have you seen ANY lengthy feature field reports showing all of the destruction, interviewing those who have been hurt, interviewing city leaders who apparently ordered the police to stand-down, reporting the actual costs, and reporting the backgrounds, identities and goal-statements of the thugs? Why not?

The media invested a lot of time and money to reporting on wars overseas. This one is right here.

Yep, the media tries hard not to show the damage riots have caused which then allows them to say the rioters are only a miniscule percentage of "peaceful protesters" They sure have caused a lot of damage for a miniscule group.

thinking beyond the statements is needed.

Being sucked in to defending their side because of the awful imagery was only Step One in their goal of divide & conquer.

Gee, it's interesting that those are the exact same things that were said about the protests against the Vietnam War and...for Civil Rights and Women's Suffrage. :oops:

I guess it's true that; "The more things change...the more they stay the same." :ohdear:

Sorry, but I'm still confused.

Are you saying that they didn't say it...and shouldn't have been terminated?

Or that even if they did say it...they shouldn't have been terminated?

Just so much to keep track of. :ohdear:

The wish to "burn society down" goes way beyond BLM.

This and other threads are a testimony to the success of the efforts by many to divide, start cultural wars, and weaken our once great country. BLM is a minor player actually.

The imperfections cause our guilt, or even envy for some, about the inequities. We can certainly improve democracy and capitalism. To borrow a phrase, “to form a more perfect union.”

HOWEVER, that is not a goal the thugs share with us. Many folks are being manipulated. If they believe they are helping the oppressed or less fortunate, they are in fact (sadly) supporting the thugs as they actively destroy our shared culture, history, liberties and ultimately our government.

The Villages?
 

What does this thread have to do about The Villages?

How would socialism actually HELP poor or oppressed blacks? the thugs don’t care about racial justice.

Many learned blacks realize that they (along with many well-intentioned whites) are being manipulated. They are often more adept at discerning lies & manipulations because they have been targeted with them so often in the past. They are actually calling for us to STOP TRYING TO HELP THEM!

The Bubble is still an important part of America, Carl.

The French were shocked into reality when Hitler marched down the Champs Eylesee, it can happen here when all of a sudden, people of privilege here are subject to the malcontents that surround us--the bubble, is just that its a bubble not a fortress

Reality and aware people can make the bubble of a fortress

My post (the one to which you respond) is not even close to an endorsement of any system. It is simply a stated wish we ignore and should pay close attention to.

The fact that you have bought this narrative simply tells me you need to read a bit more and open your mind

Not a criticism of you in any way., but simply a statement that you should look into. BLM and the others are "bit" players

This thread is actually in the..."Non Villages Discussion" forum.


:ho:

Minimizing danger does not change it.

Shall we compare the damages from looting, arson, businesses, public art etc from todays protests to the protests about Vietnam?

Unfortunately, situations like this can devolve into mindless acts by some people. They aren't representative of the great majority of the protesters.

I wish you were right.

When everyone has everything they need, and no one needs anything they don't have, there's no need for an efficiently functioning economy. That is the primary goal of socialism. To eliminate need, because everyone already has.

Have you read any of the earliest posts? If so, then you know there are many different people, with many different reasons for being there. Unfortunately, many of the ones who believe they ALL are there for the purpose of peaceably protesting against tyranny are being put in harms way since others are there to destroy property
and create chaos. I call all of them thugs but even the FBI knows there are a variety of ideologies sharing similar goals within the crowd. It’s simpler but still accurate to just call them all thugs. The thugs use the protesters for cover from the police. Their goal is to harm capitalism, destroy history and culture and test the American resolve. Ultimately they want our democracy to end. They want socialism. The end of America.

BLM, the organization, doesn't have a president. And its three co-founders are women. I don't know who you saw on TV but it definitely wasn't the BLM president. If you have even that little detail wrong, imagine how wrong you might be about everything else.

To be clear, peaceable protesters are not the thugs. Thugs are the ones who destroy property, loot, set fires, and endanger others. They hide within & behind the protesters so police can’t easily deal with them without endangering the protesters.

If BLM actually cared about anyone, they would take a hard stand on this but they don’t because it serves their underlying purpose which has absolutely nothing to do with racial justice.

I was with you until you mentioned "socialism". I do not believe that is the goal of all of this stuff at all.

The truth is not open to spin:

The interview was aired Wednesday.

He identified himself as BLM “leader” His name was curiously not said nor was it displayed.

Black Lives Matter leader states if US 'doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system' | Fox News

His statement that “we will BURN down this SYSTEM” is ALL that really matters.

(Martha McCallum looked like she’d been slapped.)

i get it. there's plenty of people on both sides looking to stir up anger, hate & whatever else they can throw in the mix, just for the sake of doing it

I don't recall MLK inciting riots. He accomplished quite a lot with peaceful protest. When someone starts rioting, burning and assaulting they have lost my sympathy and support and will never get it back. It will only set me against them even more vehemently.

it is trademarked now, however, & i can't remember the name of the lady who takes responsibility for the group, but it's online somewhere

The man you're talking about is the chair of the greater New York Chapter. He is not "the leader" and he is most certainly not the President of the BLM, which doesn't HAVE a president. I was posting in response to someone who was in a tizzy because of what he/she claimed was the (not a, but the) president (not a leader or chairman, but president) of the BLM (not a local chapter of it but of the entirety of it).

But keep responding to things people aren't saying. It just proves that some people would prefer to devolve civil discussion into fighting and division, because staying on point and discussing actual issues is too hard - or might prove to create change that they fear.

If you find the word socialism objectionable, imagine how you’ll feel if they succeed.

Many are now and have been saying this for quite awhile. The difference is that now the thugs are acting on it. It’s no longer simply extremist rhetoric which can be dismissed or ignored.

June 4, 2020 Director of the FBI Wray said this about the destructive rioters, “ We’re seeing people who are exploiting this situation to pursue violent, extremist agendas—anarchists like Antifa and other agitators. These individuals have set out to sow discord and upheaval, rather than join in the righteous pursuit of equality and justice. And by driving us apart, they are“

What do you think
ANTI-fa means? Their goal is socialist government in America.
For those of you who don’t know & may be under-estimating them

Who is Antifa?
BBC Radio 4 - Seriously…, Seriously... - Seven things you need to know about Antifa

Except Antifa are hypocrites since they are fascists themselves because they often won’t allow conservatives to speak

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

No need for an efficiently functioning economy is a good thing in your mind? If everyone already had what they needed they would not have it for long.

Would lead to a world with no advances at all in anything.

Jobs?
 

"Protesting" IS their job or, rather, violence and destruction is their job. The thugs show up any time there's an actual protest they can latch on to, with identical chants and tailor made signs, hell bent on the destruction of American society and, therefore, America itself. You can judge for yourself, if you're intellectually honest, where their funding comes from.

These are organized political groups that want a new world order. Plain and simple. This is their goal.
And I say... PIGEON LIVES MATTER. STOP DESTROYING OUR STATUES!!!!!

I repeated the position he claimed he had.

The knowledge you have of the BLM organization is most impressive.

Did you copy & paste this from their website?

“or might prove to create CHANGE They FEAR.”

Ok, Show of hands:

Who fears the “changes” of overthrow of our government, destruction of our culture, elimination of values, suppression of religion, centralized ownership of all capital, loss of ability to earn a living, loss of our liberties, ceasing our justice system and erasing way of life?

👋 yep. FEAR.

^^^thought so

Glad you spoke up to remove all doubt.