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biker1 05-03-2024 05:00 PM

No "maybe" about it. Also, I never said I didn't change the oil when I changed the filter. Oil and filter change twice a year.

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2327951)
Maybe.
I'll stick to my full synthetic with filter oil change for $30 once a year if I need it or not.


NoMoSno 05-03-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2327952)
No "maybe" about it. Also, I never said I didn't change the oil when I changed the filter. Oil and filter change twice a year.

I was responding to CoachKandSportsguys post about not changing the oil with filter, which seems silly.
I only put on 5000mls yr so figure once a year is plenty.

biker1 05-03-2024 05:11 PM

I agree. The filters I use are about $10 and I can buy Mobil 1 after a rebate for about $16 for 5 quarts so I don't see a lot of savings if you are changing the filter every 2k miles. If the engine took 15 quarts of oil then that might be another issue.

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2327953)
I was responding to CoachKandSportsguys post about not changing the oil with filter, which seems silly.
I only put on 5000mls yr so figure once a year is plenty.


JoelJohnson 05-03-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2312605)
Can't hurt, low cost insurance.

The way to know for sure is to have a Blackstone oil analysis performed.

Thousands of people who have tested their oil shows data confirms manufactures recommendations are conservative and good enough for most people.

I have a 2024 Honda CRV I had Blackstone analyse my oil at 1,000 and 6,000 miles. I tried to copy the results but it didn't work. Anyway it showed there was crap in the oil from the factory.

Shipping up to Boston 05-03-2024 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 2327962)
I have a 2024 Honda CRV I had Blackstone analyse my oil at 1,000 and 6,000 miles. I tried to copy the results but it didn't work. Anyway it showed there was crap in the oil from the factory.

Common. Metal shavings from production can be found early on during break in period. Usually subsides over time

Topspinmo 05-03-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2327928)
LOL!

read a very interesting repair mechanic's post about changing oil about 1 particular car: the owner never changed oil once in the greater than 5 years of ownership. Never once!

instead he just changed the filter every 2,000 miles and added oil.

The car was traded into the same dealership, the mechanic went to check inside the engine, and the engine had very little wear.

The most important point is using the best filter you can buy, as that is what keeps the oil clean in the engine and keeps the engine wear to a minimum. For low mileage driving, change the filter every 6 months and add oil.

On the very small coastwise tanker I worked for about 5 years, it had twin GM locomotive 2 stroke diesel engines. The oil was changed every three years in the shipyard. The oil was kept clean with a centrifuge oil cleaner and filters. not sure how often the filters were changed, but we had to be in port for a significant period of time in order to take an engine offline, as ships need to ready to leave the dock at any time. .

So don't go all oil change crazy when regular simple maintenance of the most important part of the lubrication system is required.

YMMV

Yep, I’d follow that advice. You could probably do nothing and it would last 5 years? 90% don’t keep car than long anyway.

Topspinmo 05-03-2024 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2327950)
There might be some cars where this is true but I have never seen one. Every car that I have owned has had the filter on the bottom of the engine and could be changed without draining the oil. For convenience, I typically remove the filter first.

Some manufacturers New engines has oil filter on top of intake manifold in cheap plastic housing with tiny canister filter and cheap plastic cap. Kia’s and their sister manufacturer for sure.

MorTech 05-04-2024 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2314516)
Porsche has oil refineries?

I wouldn't if I were them.

Pennsylvania oil is made from spoiled dinosaurs.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-04-2024 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2328014)
Pennsylvania oil is made from spoiled dinosaurs.

OMG! another uninformed opinion. . .

Crude oil is NOT from dinosaurs. .

Scientifically Crude oil is the earth's lubrication fluid which separates the molten core from the mantle, which allows the earth to spin frictionlessly for days and nights.

once enough oil is pumped out of the subterranean reservoirs, the days and nights will become longer as the earth's rotation begins to slow.

JMintzer 05-04-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2327883)
Remember the Slant 6 engine (Dodge/Chrysler)?
So durable and indestructible it would run with no oil....or pancake syrup!

I had one of those (a '69 Dodge Dart) in my first car. It certainly was indestructible!

JoelJohnson 05-05-2024 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2327967)
Common. Metal shavings from production can be found early on during break in period. Usually subsides over time

True, which is why I changed it at the first 1,000 miles. Every 5,000 miles is about 6 months for me, so twice a year is about right. BTW, I plan on changing the CVT oil at about 30,000 miles. Why? Because lifetime CVT oil is a myth. The car company wants to sell you a new car at about 60-100k.

Topspinmo 05-05-2024 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2328132)
I had one of those (a '69 Dodge Dart) in my first car. It certainly was indestructible!

When I was young man I used work in junk (salvage yard) about every Saint six in junk yard had big hole in rear area of block at main bearing, when they did fail from LACK of maintenance they exploded. They along with ford 240/300 and Chevy blue flame was pretty much indestructible IF owners had sense to change/check oil?

Topspinmo 05-05-2024 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2314626)
LOL, you might do the math on that one. A $69 oil change once a year x 10 years is $699 minimum. If you do more driving then it will be higher and don’t forget all the other “schedule maintenance” which may put you at that replacement battery cost. I heard for the Prius that is around $2K? I’m sure it’s more for a Tesla but how long do you actually keep your car anyhow?


Prius hybrid battery pack is smaller so naturally smaller pack in most cases cost less. But maybe not with sharpe rise in materials to make battery packs now?

JMintzer 05-05-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2328599)
When I was young man I used work in junk (salvage yard) about every Saint six in junk yard had big hole in rear area of block at main bearing, when they did fail from LACK of maintenance they exploded. They along with ford 240/300 and Chevy blue flame was pretty much indestructible IF owners had sense to change/check oil?

Never said I didn't change the oil...

Shipping up to Boston 05-05-2024 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2328632)
Never said I didn't change the oil...

In that era people changed the oil over a sewer drain or dumped it in the yard. But then again, my teachers smoked in the building then too.

Topspinmo 05-05-2024 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2328632)
Never said I didn't change the oil...

Never said you didn’t :boxing2:

MorTech 05-05-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2328060)
OMG! another uninformed opinion. . .

Crude oil is NOT from dinosaurs. .

Scientifically Crude oil is the earth's lubrication fluid which separates the molten core from the mantle, which allows the earth to spin frictionlessly for days and nights.

once enough oil is pumped out of the subterranean reservoirs, the days and nights will become longer as the earth's rotation begins to slow.

I Know! Right?

The high pitch squealing noise from drying earth bearings will be intolerable...Worse than Cicadas. The oceans will boil and we will all burn to death from heat caused by the higher friction within 12 years if we don't stop oil!

Yours, whether you like it or not,
- AOC

:)

JMintzer 05-06-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2328654)
Never said you didn’t :boxing2:

Responding to my post the way you did most certainly implied that....

Keefelane66 05-06-2024 03:13 PM

Talking from experience when in the Military we did fuel oil dilution daily, lub oil analysis weekly in the ship's lab. Oil was only changed when solids were found that were not removed sufficiently with oil strainers, filters and centrifugal purifier. When fuel oil dilution reached 10% oil was changed since it doesn't evaporate only changes viscosity of oil to a thinner grade. Transferred to a smaller patrol boat that had no space available except to check fuel oil dilution. Monthly samples were sent to company that would give anyalsys of oil condition, when we completed recommend oil change a sample of new oil was sent to set base line without that you don't know what's going in engine or additives in refining, old school straight 30w.
The worse you can do with diesel or gas engine is idling for extended periods.

Keefelane66 05-06-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 2327962)
I have a 2024 Honda CRV I had Blackstone analyse my oil at 1,000 and 6,000 miles. I tried to copy the results but it didn't work. Anyway it showed there was crap in the oil from the factory.

Talking from experience when in the Military we did fuel oil dilution daily, lub oil analysis weekly in the ship's lab. Oil was only changed when solids were found that were not removed sufficiently with oil strainers, filters and centrifugal purifier. When fuel oil dilution reached 10% oil was changed since it doesn't evaporate only changes viscosity of oil to a thinner grade. Transferred to a smaller patrol boat that had no space available except to check fuel oil dilution. Monthly samples were sent to company that would give anyalsys of oil condition, when we completed recommend oil change a sample of new oil was sent to set base line without that you don't know what's going in engine or additives in refining, old school straight 30w.
The worse you can do with diesel or gas engine is idling for extended periods.


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