A bulletin from Port St. Lucie, FL.

Hmmm
 

I vote for a golf cart drive in movie...

More Executive courses is my vote please!!!
 

I vote for more executive…enough pitch and putt and championship courses until they get further south..

They are all booked every day. I think these courses are great.

The good thing is if you are unhappy here you don't have to stay.

Car Parking Available
 

Yes - at all three south of 44.

PNP Good
 

I like the pitch-n-putts - good short-game practice and 18 holes.

That said, three south of 44 is enough - need more executives closer to Sawgrass - can’t wait for Eastport!

You can't stop it so just relax, sit back and enjoy. Build them and they will come 😉

I know a number of golfers that play the executive courses because they cannot walk the pitch and putt courses. It would be nice to built a pitch and putt course with golf cart paths or an executive course (with cart paths) with only two sets of tees with the longest hole no more than 125-130 yards. Call it a “starter course”or whatever. It’s not “rocket science”. A starter course would take considerable less land and designed for golfers just starting to play or for one wanting to sharpen their short game. Almost everyone happy? ������

I for one am glad the inmates are not running this place. Imagine the endless posting to decide what flowers to put where.

We already have one of those:
El Santiago - level 1 - big cups

I don’t think Marshview has car parking.

Sarasota has big and small cups as well.

Parking
 

It is in same parking lot as Edna's

Yes, you’re right. My mistake. I guess I was thinking about the Fenney putt ‘n play.

There is ample parking for cars

Now that is a valid point I hadn't thought about!

So wrong! Pitch and Putt- 1. You tee off a cushioned pad. 2. The play is completely off from an executive course 3. If there are sand traps, they are minimal 4. Greens are flat 5. There are no par 4s …

You are looking at the argument incorrectly.......the developer earns more from the land if he can sell a house that overlooks that land. A pitch & putt does not allow that, where an executive has many homes with premium lots around them.

Regarding Brownwood theater- the movie industry in Hollywood is the culprit. Unfortunately many movie theater corporations are suffering and/or going out of business. Regal is one of them…nationally

P&P
 

I platy both Ex. & P/P. I enjoy both. Are you a golf elitists? There are levels of gofers, get used to it.

Have you actually tried to get a t time at Richmond? It’s is just as difficult to get a t time as other executive course. i know some people don’t like sarasota either because it’s pretty easy. Marsh Bend needs to get cleaned up to take some pressure off Richmond.

The pitch and putts are fine unfortunately those pads are not so cushioned. Anytime I've played Marshview I've used older clubs I don't care about possibly damaging. They're nice but we now have enough.

Yes! Many cannot walk the PNP, that is true. A cart path would be helpful. Good idea

People love the pleasure of making long drives, but for a large percentage of players who want to improve, spending hours pitching and putting will help their score a lot more. Think how many players drive bucket after bucket of balls at driving ranges but never pitch buckets and learn to place the pitched balls accurately. Pitch and putt courses focus on what may be the hardest parts of the game for most players.

A trail fee comes along with a cart path. Lay down you 4 bucks.

This is worth repeating for those that don’t read ALL posts before offering an opinion!

The OP was merely expressing an opinion. Too many snarky comments here.

Freeway buffer
 

You have to consider the hazards of putting an executive course that close to the freeway. The fairways are a lot longer on an Executive course and you really have to belt that ball out there to get to the green. If that ball went awry you might hit someone on the freeway accidently. So in lieu of putting up great big nets to protect the freeway drivers the developer gets to save land and build more houses.

When they start developing the land farther away from the freeway I'm sure they will add more executive courses south of 44.

We like the PNP's, great for new players.

Build more executives!

This is worth repeating for those that don’t read ALL posts before offering an opinion!

Pitchputt
 

Being a non golfer, I prefer the simple putting courses like at Ezell. No pressure but lots of fun and no shoulder/muscle injuries.

It would be interesting to see actual usage for ALL executive courses. The Villages has this data. There might be some favorites or close to the south side courses that seem crowded but there are probably as many in less easily accessible areas that are under utilized. The intent might be to cause people to travel a little to a second or third choice so all courses are fairly used. Just a thought.

"Easily"? I doubt it. You'd need much more land due to the longer shots taken on most Executive courses (this included good shots and errant shots)...

Maybe from some of the front tees, but certainly not from the back tees...

You do know that they are currently building and have plans for 5 more executive courses South of 44, don't you?

All you need do is look at the available t-tims.

Even when all of the Executive courses are booked, you can easily find t-times on the pitch & putts...

You make a very valid point. Pitch and putt and the putting course at the First Responders recreation center should be in a separate category. Playing there should not affect points for executive golf play. It also should not be counted as "holes of golf" when advertising the number of golf holes available in The Villages.

Basically, you don't stop it. The idea is that residents south of 44 are going to trend toward the younger range of retired seniors - like in their 50s. These younger folks don't want to WASTE the time going to a 18 hole longer type course. They realize that the longer course is BORING and of LITTLE exercise value so they would rather play the pitch and putt, which gives them the skilled shots and clubs while eliminating the driver and the 2 or whatever iron. And they may still have time to go to a weight room or run on a track for REAL EXERCISE.
...... THERE ARE many other advantages of pitch and putt.....starting with less BACK pain and injuries, which is a BIG bugaboo for the over-50 crowd that wants to pace themselves and avoid injury so that they can still be relatively PAIN free and "running, jumping, and playing" well into their 80s and up.
.......Pitch and Putt is less expensive than the alternative and leaves money left over to buy that antique vehicle that they always desired.
........Pitch and Putt is less frustrating and can be played less competitively (if desired) vs the longer alternative.
.........Pitch and Putt leaves more time at the POOL so they can work on their TAN and show off to their northern friends.
......Pitch and Putt has fewer heart attacks during the HEAT of the summer than the alternative.
.......Pitch and Putt has less grass area, therefore NEEDS less fertilizer that can run off into the close by lakes and pollute them. Also, there is the obvious need for less water, which helps keep the cost of water DOWN and helps out with the resident's budget.
........I may have missed a few others ?