Hey UUJudy, your post is very interesting. I've never heard the term "mammal meat" and had to look it up on Wikipedia! I've never eaten lamb or veal or (shudder shudder) horse. I had a horse named Jets Encore for 23 years. I won't even give my dogs horse meat! I gave up beef about four years ago. I just couldn't stand to look at the cows in the trucks going to the slaughter house and feel guilty any more.

Off topic. Anyway, I can't give up mammal meat because I don't eat it. But I guess I'd probably feel far worse if I hadn't given it up.

Some people swear by Glucosmine and others find it doesn't help a bit. Others swear by fish oil and I'm taking that also. It doesn't seem to help, but I have lots of fishy burps .. uggggg! I'm really hoping that spending an hour a day in a 91 degree pool will help.

I've heard Alleve is great, but I think it is a blood thinner and I'm not allowed to take those. I guess I'm stuck with Tylenol until they figure it my knee injury out. When I take Tylenol, it definitely eases the pain. But I don't want to spend the rest of my life taking tylenol.

I has arthoscopic surgery on both knees 20 years ago. That isn't a walk in the park either. I hope I don't have to do that again.

Graciegirl, I'm encouraged that Sweetie's injury healed without surgery. And PTurner, you're a nutbar!

Urban Hair Studio uses Wella Professionals
 

You are correct about Wella, it is great for grey hair and very high quality hair color. Urban Hair Studio right off of CR 466 past Walmart uses Wella.

While channel surfing one night last week, I found a new sitcom on TV Land. I really like good sitcoms, but they don't make 'em like they used to and so I don't watch many of the new ones. But this one looks pretty good so far. I saw the pilot episode of "Hot in Cleveland."

All the actresses are really well known, especially Betty White. Betty got all the best lines -- which is as it should be I do think. The writing is not up there with "Golden Girls" but, hey, what is? But there are many good lines in this one. Lines that women will love.

The other actresses are Valerie Bertinelli and the woman who played Daphne on "Frasier" and also the woman who played Nina on "Just Shoot Me." It's a great cast.

The story starts when three women from Los Angeles are on their way to Paris for a girlfriends' trip when the plane has to make an emergency landing in Cleveland.

Here's the link if you would like some details.

http://www.tvland.com/shows/hot-in-c...FQ0hDQodjktK7A

Boomer

Boom, I heard about that show and I've heard that it was excellent. Betty White is just amazing. Wish we could all be that bright as we age. Sadly, I don't think we get the show in Canada.

On another topic ....

While I'm in exile, I'm trying to lose weight. Oh, I know, boring, what else is new. Aren't we all.

I'm thinking this would be a great place to exchange weight loss tips. Not the old "eat less and exercise more". Who the heck needs to hear that. But other good ideas we've discovered.

OK, I'll start.

Eat a dill pickle with every meal. The vinegar in the pickle will stop your blood sugar from spiking and you won't get hungry again right away.

Jello is your friend. Keep bowls and bowls of it in your fridge in different colours. Think of it as dessert, not coloured water. You can eat unlimited amounts.

Get lots and lots of sleep. Sleep creates endorphins that make you less hungry. Oh, maybe I just made that up, I'm not sure.

Now it's your turn. :girlneener:

Boomer, I watched the pilot for Hot in Cleveland, and settled in for the next show (the TV guide had 2 episodes back to back), but the next show was the same as the first show, and this week was the same! Did they only make one episode? Have you seen another?

Bare, thanks for the pickle tip. I'll definitely give it a try. Btw, don't underestimate the benefits of fiber. I can hear you all saying, "Ewwww," but it works. When Mr. Judy is gone for a few weeks I'll make a big pot of chili, and that will be my main meal every day until it's gone. Then I'll make a big pot of bean soup for the next week. . . (You can understand why I only do this when I'm alone). I have fresh fruit or steamed veggies (all you can eat) for the other meals. My tv-watching snack food is popcorn. By the time Mr. J flies back to Florida I've easily lost 5 pounds, sometimes more. You can eat all you want, but be sure to open the windows. :loco:

I'm laughing UUJudy. I know exactly what you mean. I make a diet soup which is mainly vegetables, especially cabbage, but I add lentils. And I also add a few cut-up low-fat hotdogs, and lots of spices. You can eat that stuff endlessly and never gain weight.

But there is a price to pay when you eat a lot of fibre! :22yikes: I make my diet soup when Fireboy is working long shifts at the Fire Hall! Or at the lake cottage.

Sounds yummy! :icon_hungry: Bare, can you share the recipe? I love cabbage, and it sounds like a nice break from the beans in the chili and the bean soup. I'm especially interested in the spices. I have no spice gene. Other than onions and salt & pepper, I never know what spices to use.
Thanks!
Judy

Green Smoothie to lose weight
 

Here's my diet tip: I make "green" smoothies. You take anything green like spinach or turnip greens, etc., and add fruit. Blend it up and you have a yummy drink that is healthy and fills you up just like a meal. You can add nuts (cashew, almond, etc) to help thicken. Use any kind of fruit or veggies, all raw. Here's an example of what I throw in my blender:

1/2 cup plain unsweetened yogurt
2 cups greens (spinach, turnip greens, etc. - uncooked)
1 carrot
1 small tomato
1/4 cucumber
2 cups frozen strawberries (more or less)
1/2 frozen banana
3/4 cup Splenda or other sweetener to taste

If you don't have frozen fruit, then just throw in a couple of ice cubes. You can use any kind of fruit, but I mostly use berries because they don't cause blood sugar spikes. This recipe is best with a high-power blender. Yum!

Speaking of chili ~~
 

My all time favorite healthy/high fiber meal is black bean chili made with ground turkey and lots of chopped celery, garlic, tomatoes, a cup of grated carrots & more navy beans, spiced with chili powder and curry powder. The last 8 minutes of cooking, I throw in a cup of whole grain elbow pasta :icon_hungry:

The eyes have it -- or not
 

Hi Girls,

A question -- Has anybody used StriVectin-SD eye cream?

There is a story behind this question, of course. But for now, I gotta get out of here. Today is Boomette's birthday and I have to finish getting ready to go to the party later.

She was born on the 4th of July so we named her :boom:ette.

A happy 4th of July to everybody.

(I wonder if I should ask Boomette if she is tired of red, white, and blue birthday cakes with sparklers on top instead of candles.)

Boomer

Boomer, I haven't used the eye cream. I think you should try it and report back to us with before and after pictures.

Happy birthday to :boom:ette!
At least you didn't name her :boom::boom: tee hee :laugh:

Coincidence? Probably. But maybe.....
 

About that StriVectin-SD eye cream…..What happened to me is either a coincidence or this stuff actually works. That’s why I was wondering if any of you had ever used it. Here’s the story….

About a year ago I was in Macy’s cosmetics department when they were pushing StriVectin. You girls know the drill. I let the saleswoman talk to me about it to the point where I ended up buying a small introductory kit that had different creams in it. At first I thought that the stuff was so expensive that there was no way I was buying any of it – not the spiel or the cream. But the more she talked, the more interested I got and besides, I had some of those Macy’s coupons so I thought….ohhhh, whattheheck.

Anyway, I brought it home and stuck it on a shelf in the closet and continued with my old stuff and forgot all about the StriVectin until last week when I suddenly developed puffy bags under my eyes. One day – there they were – no warning – nothing gradual, I had aged rapidly, in just one day.……

The big puffy bags under my eyes were set off by a deeply etched red-rimmed circle under just the left eye. I guess this was a sinus infection. I had never really had such a thing happen before.

It's not like I am a spring chicken to begin with, but I have seen Bassett hounds that looked a whole lot perkier than I looked.

I kept looking in the mirror and worrying about the new me. This went on for a couple of days. And then I began to play it out to one of those, “Ohhhhhh my goodness….oh, nooooooo what if?” things. What if the puffy, puffy swelling never goes away??? Or what if it the puffy part goes away after a long time, but then the skin itself is all stretched out and leaves behind a saggy, floppy droop of skin. (I am of the collagen-challenged age and so I figured that could happen.).

Then I remembered the StriVectin in the closet. And I remembered those promises from that sign in the aisle at Macy’s. And I remembered my encounter at the counter where I let myself be talked into buying some of this magic potion.

And so I dug out the eye cream and I put it on and the next morning – you guessed it – I looked like myself again. The bags were gone. There was no droop. And the red circle had faded away.

But I don’t know if it was a coincidence or if this stuff worked. The sinus infection hung around for a few more days.

And that’s why I asked you girls if anybody else had ever used this stuff. This seems too good to be true. Has to be. None of that stuff works like that for real. But it has been kind of fun to wonder.....

Boomer

Boomer.....

I did a bit of online research on this product and read a number of critiques from users that varied from it being "magic" to warnings of it's damage to the eyes (nothing life-threatening; merely sore red eyelids). Well, I deduced that there was nothing really worth considering alarming since the fact is that we are all so unique in our own bodies that what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander. One must test the water gently.

You happened to hit it lucky and that's great because bottom line, the results merely depend upon one's unique body and it seemed to work well for you. Good for you....Hugs, Barb

Great story Boom. I think you've just boosted StriVectin sales by 300%! :mornincoffee: (But I've heard Preparation H does the same thing for a lot less cash).

P.S. I love the diet recipes and the K-9 power drink. I can't imagine the smoothie tastes yummy, but I'll give it a try!

UUJudy, I will post the diet soup recipe the next time I make it. I swear you can eat it endlessly and lose weight. (Of course you get quickly tired of all the bloating from the fibre) :faint:

I've been making the diet soup for 20 years and I never use a recipe. So I'll write down the ingredients the next time I make it. I throw in a bunch of spices until I like the taste, so I'll measure those also.

Barefoot! That has to be it! All I could think of was that it was probably made out of cucumbers and teabags, but I bet you are right.

And Barb, thank you for the research.

There is a lot of it left in the tube, but I was at Macy's the other day and I checked the recent price because I was curious. It was on sale for 47 bucks for a tube that is supposed to last 6 months. The saleswoman said that they are changing the packaging and so the old stuff is on sale. Still a ridiculous price. And certainly not as cheap as Preparation H.

I have a feeling that you are absolutely right about the Preparation H. The wonders of marketing huh. -- Could be exactly what this stuff is. -- Well, if not exactly, it is probably really close to the formula.

Sooooo, I wonder if we should conduct a scientific experiment here in the Girl Talk thread?

Boomer

PS: Also, it looks like we have some new people around here on TOTV and if you are one of them and you are reading Girl Talk, welcome. This thread was started by Barefoot more than two years ago. It is a conversation. The kind of conversation that only women understand. We go from subject to subject and we never lose track of what we are talking about and nobody can ever be accused of hijacking because there is no such thing here.

Of course, I know that you must be a girl if you are reading this because it is "No Boys Allowed" here in this thread. So please join in anytime with Girl Talk.

OK, Boom, we'll conduct an experiment .. you go first! :22yikes: I don't have eye bags right now. I have a myriad of other facial challenges, but not bags. (How can you have wrinkles and break-outs at the same time??) But I digress.

I've definitely heard that Preparation H works! But I can't get past using stuff around my eyes that is designed for .. well .. that other place. :angel:

Nooooo, Barefoot, nooooooo. I figured maybe we could get StriVectin to send us a case of the stuff, in the name of science, of course, but the Prep H??? No way.

I have to admit though, now that those bags have disappeared as suddenly as they appeared, I am going to hoard the rest of the tube of StriVectin in case it happens again.

And about Prep H.....a few years ago I had to have an MRI (turned out fine) but the instructions I had before the appointment said to remove jewelry. Well, my wedding ring had not been off since our wedding. It still fit fine. Or so I thought. But I had not realized that I could not get it off.

I twisted it. i turned it. I soaped it. I lotioned it. And all that just made things worse. And then the light bulb went off over top my head and I went to the drugstore and got a tube of -- you guessed it! And it worked like a charm.

So when I went in for the appointment, I told the person at the desk about it and said that maybe they should keep some in the desk there for others who might have a problem taking off a ring. I felt ever so clever with my solution and I wanted to pass it along.

Boomer Heloise

Hot in Cleveland...
 

BF.... I watched the first two shows, not on my television but on MY COMPUTER yesterday!! So, if you can't watch it on your television in Canada, try this link which you may have to copy/paste.

The Official Hot in Cleveland Site starring Betty White, Valerie Bertinelli, Jane Leeves and Wendie Malick : Hot In Cleveland

Hope it works for you as it's really good......b

PS: If the link doesn't work, then copy/paste to "Search" and it will probably come up.

An eye for an eye
 

Here's an article on Preparation H for wrinkles

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/42773

After reading it, I don't know if it works or not.:shrug: I guess it doesn't matter, as I won't be trying it. :)

Thanks Barb .. I found it on my TV schedule, yay! The pilot of "Hot in Cleveland" is showing tonight at 8 PM. I've been wanting to see it.

I say this with a mixture of glee and sadness. "The Bachlorette" (Ali) is also on at 8 PM tonight. And if I were to be truthful (and we always tell the truth on Girl Talk), I am addicted to the Bachlorette. Now I'm out of the closet. I'm the only person in North America who loves Reality TV. Yes, I'm ashamed! As terrible and phony as it is, I'm addicted. I always swear I'll never start watching the new season and then I do. It is such a train wreck of a show, so overdone and dramatic.

But .... Jake the Fake is on tonight. He was engaged to Venetia, and he dumped her. And now they are both on tonight's episode of The Bachlorette. He is such a loser, I really dislike him, he is so phony, how can I not watch!

And no, I don't have any of those gadgets that let me record shows. I barely know how to answer my phone.

Anyway, Fireboy is working tonight so I'll just watch both shows at the same time which drives him mental. Well, it would drive any normal person mental.

But I digress. Gotta go or you'll be calling me Boomest.

Make that "Boomfoot"

(or maybe "BareBoom"???)

:boom:
:BigApplause:

Well don't be ashamed, BF, cause I'm watching the Bachelorette this season, too.

I would consider using the Prep H under my eyes because I have bags, too, but then I noticed the bags on the underside of my arms are so much larger -- they should be tended to first. Now that would take lots and lots of Prep H. So, I gave up the idea.

And yes, that Green Smoothie does taste good. My husband is amazed every time I make one for him and I list the ingredients. Truly yummy.

Hi Girls,

Tonight at 10:00, "Hot in Cleveland" is on again on TV Land. I set the DVR. It looks like the channel is doing that weird thing again where they play the same episode back-to-back. But it is supposed to be a new episode, at least.

Last week they went to the Rock and Roll Museum. Huey Lewis played an aging rock star (imagine that) who had long ago had a thing with one of the women. They were recreating some memories -- or trying to.

All the actresses are really good, but Betty White is still the best of all.

Boomer

I'm at the lake cottage in Canada and our TV isn't working. :cus: I missed the Bachelorette home town visits. I missed Hot in Cleveland again! It is amazing how attached you can become to a television and how boring nights are without one! Oh, I really need to get a life. :popcorn:

Boomer...thanks for the heads up; I watched "Hot in Cleveland" last night for the first time. Kind of a younger version of the Golden Girls. It was entertaining and funny. Too bad it's buried on the "TV Land" channel. Maybe one of the networks will pick it up in the future.

Thanks Boomer. We also watched "Hot in Cleveland" for the first time last night. I saw Valerie Bertinelli promoting it awhile back and had totally forgotten about the show.

The scene when Betty White came into the kitchen with her hair dyed was hilarious and very reminiscent of kitcen table talks and one liners from "The Golden Girls." It seemed like Betty White's character is similar to Sophia Petrillo in "The Golden Girls." Estelle Getty was great in that role.

I really like Wendie Malick. She gets better with age? "Just Shoot Me" was sooo funny. Her timing is great.

And what about that Jane Leeves. My husband and I debated for a minute if that was Daphne Moon from "Frasier." And then in walks Newman from "Seinfield."

IMHO Valeria Bertinelli is not a very good actress. My husband kept saying, "Who cares. She is sooo beautiful. Leave my Barbara alone. (From her years on "One Day at a Time.")

I wonder how the LeBron James thing will affect the show?

I know the link to "Hot in Cleveland" has already been posted in this thread. But here it is again. The reason I am putting it here is because on the lower left of the opening screen, there is a schedule of repeats of the shows so far.

The one called "Birthdates" is especially funny. They draw names and have to find a date for the person whose name they get. It is a fiasco except for Betty White's date. Can't remember which character found Betty's date for her, but she did it by emailing the senior center and got the only one who knew how to email back. The scenes with Betty White and her new boyfriend are wonderful.

I am glad to hear you girls like the show.

And Barefoot, I bet when you get to see it, you will like it, too. (And talk about needing to get a life....geez....here I am acting like I am somebody's agent on "Hot in Cleveland.")

(And I agree that some of those channels sure manage to bury a show and seem to work against it with how the schedule works or does not work.)

So anyway, here is the link that shows when the DVR can catch the other episodes. They are running all of them on Saturday. A DVR is a wonderful thing.

http://www.tvland.com/shows/hot-in-cleveland

Boomer

thank you thank you thank you
 

Boomer - thanks! I have missed all of these, so I've now set the VCR to record them all this Saturday - probably will have a girlfriend party to watch them (doesn't that sound much better than "hen party")?

Has anyone experimented with the Sensa Weight-Loss System? Supposedly little granules you shake on your food that affect your sense of smell and you magically lose weight. :girlneener:

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. :sigh: I know, I know, I know .... don't remind me .... eat less and exercise more.

And yet I continue to look for a magic solution.

Barefoot, for more than two years I have been hoping that you would announce that you have discovered the magic solution. Darn it. Please keep trying though. I am depending on you.

Somewhere in here, a while back, I was going on and on about how I was swilling down V8 because I heard that was supposed to help. Well, I guess you all know how long that lasted.

And then I told everybody that I was going to write a diet book. I was planning to call my diet book "The Fiddle-Dee-Dee Diet: Tomorrow Is Another Day." (I guess that could be the most realistic diet book ever written.)

But please keep up the quest. OK?

Boomer

I am changing the subject. I need comfort.

We are putting our home up for sale and the first prospective realtor said that our house doesn't smell like "old people live here".

What exactly is an "old people" smell anyway? The lingering smell of young love, honeymoon hugs, baby powder and baby diapers and cough medicine and sleepless nights from bygone days. The smell of bubble baths and bedtime stories. The smell of roses for anniversaries and birthdays and countless Christmas trees and the dye from Easter eggs. The aroma of decades of Thanksgivings and laughter from house parties. The smell of conversations and disagreements and make-up kisses. The smell of iodine and bandaids on skinned up knees. The clean smell of prayers of thanksgiving and tears from rearing children.

Maybe this young whippersnapper just didn't recognize the smell of life. I hope they experience it one day. I want my house to smell like old people lived and loved there.

Oh BK. I feel all better. This is being printed and framed.

Wow!
:BigApplause:

The Curse of Miss Mini
 

:wave:

I'll start with a statement of self defense. I'm not one to speak ill of other people.

BUT... I'm here to bitch about Ms. Mini Pause.

Having no magic bullet is one thing. (Oh please, please find that magic bullet!) But eating less, exercising more and still gaining weight is Mini Pause's ultimate bad joke. :cus: I was the original 98 lb. weakling until I turned 50.

And then along come's Mini

And does she want to keep me slim or let me burn the calories
that give me pleasant memories?
Or maybe rather gather tales from all the fails and tribulations
Everyone can see

When we met I had quit eating lunch
Now my empty gut shows the pack of her punch!

Seriously, I turned 50 and my metabolism died. In the eight years since, I've gained 20 pounds. I eat less and less and still gain. I exercise and still have a hard time taking it off.

So yes, we struggle much
When told that such a tender touch of hers
Will make us not the same!

Anyone feel my pain? Suggestions?

P, I just turned 49 this July. About a year ago, when we moved to NC from DC area, I started thinking I was losing my mind. I couldn't remember simple things. I'd wander aimlessly in the new house. I didn't say anything to my husband.

I thought oh, he's stressed and doesn't need to hear my silliness. I'm just stressed from the move. It progressed to a point of panic on my part. I had to start taking a nap in the afternoons before I could fix dinner. Not that I wanted to lay down and sleep. Because I couldn't put one foot in front of the other. Then I started having chest "pains" and horrible sweats and gaining weight. I went to a general practioner and a cardiologist. Both said the same thing. Menapause.

I thought, you know, of all the wonderful women I've known in my life, none warned me of this. Then I realized. They may have wanted to, but they forgot.
My forgetfulness was the most shocking. The weight gain is uncontrollable because I don't have any energy to spike my metabolism. I am not taking HRTs. Just sweating it out.

I saw a little sign that said, "Women over 50 shouldn't have babies. They'll lay them down and forget where they put them."

Freeda, I googled "list of low glycemic foods" and I couldn't find RJ Gator's Shrimp Po-Boy or Mallory's all-you-can-eat wings or Cane Garden's fish sandwich or Havana's pineapple chicken salad or Nancy Lopez's clams and pasta or Hacienda Hill's half price hamburgers or Red Sauce's eggplant parm or a pitcher Yuengling anywhere on the list. I can't understand why I'm gaining weight? :laugh:

Hey BK, I laughed and laughed at your post. And then I read it to Fireboy and we both laughed. You are such an entertaining writer. I loved the sign about forgetting where you put your baby. Hilarious.

And Boomer, don't worry, I'll never give up the quest to find the magic bullet. I know it's out there. I'm actually trying acupuncture next. My friend Hyacinth is currently eating all her food with a baby spoon. To slow down her eating. There is no end to the things we'll try (as long as it doesn't involve exercise or eating less, :laugh:)

UUJudy, you just listed all my favouite foods. Except you forgot Haagen Daas Icecream! When I find the magic bullet, I know that it will allow us to eat all these foods!

I'm still seriously considering having my eyebrows tattooed.

Well, I'm not as clever as many of you word-smiths, although I am a word-smith "wannabe". So my post might be boring, but, Freeda has the answers; it is only through practice that they work. I do the same thing -- I ask for veggies rather than the serving of fries with my fish basket. I never eat any bread, unless it is extremely high fiber. Sugar doesn't cross my lips; I bake/cook my own sugar-free desserts and treats. My salads are eaten with vinegar dressings without sugar in them (no creamy fattening stuff). Fruits are all low glycemic and are limited to mostly berries. Veggies are all low glycemic -- I haven't eaten corn or white potatoes in a long, long, long time. Cooking can be an outlet for creativity. If you don't cook, educate yourself about low-glycemic foods and choose wisely in restaurants.

When I was younger, I always wondered why "old people" were always so interested in taking vitamins and life-extension. I thought it was silly to panic at the end and try to extend your life. Just lately I have come to understand that we "old people" are not trying to extend our life, but instead are hoping to stay healthy during those last years. Am I on the right track with low-glycemic foods? I think so . . .hope so.

Now, if you really want to be healthy, eliminate meat from your diet. (Read The China Study) But that's another (sometimes touchy) subject . .

Question for Freda
 

:bowdown: So Freda,,,I have read South Beach and some of Dr Oz...what book do you use to determine glycemic values and recipes etc....