Bare,

your hair is absolutely beautiful. You dont know frustration until you have naturally frizzy hair like mine!:yuck: No amount of the most expensive conditioners or shampoos make any difference at all! So when you find that special beautician, please please let me know. In the meantime Ill suffer in silence and keep a paper bag over my head!

Nonie,

Shame on you - you look beautiful.

Ladies,

I go to Helen at Tuscany in LSL. By far not the cheapest option, but I have hard to cut hair and need color - so I am sold. My hair is thick and curly, my friend Nancy's is straighter and fine - and she does a fabulous job with both of us.

k

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Nonie, Shame on you - you look beautiful.

Ladies, I go to Helen at Tuscany in LSL. By far not the cheapest option, but I have hard to cut hair and need color - so I am sold. My hair is thick and curly, my friend Nancy's is straighter and fine - and she does a fabulous job with both of us. [ /QUOTE]



Nonie always looks terrific! But for some unexplained reason, she doesn't like her hair. Oh well, we all have body bits we'd like to shed I'm sure.

Kate, I thought that Helen at Tuscany wasn't accepting new clients. Am I wrong about that?

Nonie, I am envious of your thick head of hair! Mine has always been baby fine and I hate it.:( Lies flat on my head with no body whatsoever.

I can relate to the frizz though. I have noticed lately that the few hairs I do have are now starting to frizz too...What's up with that!?! Oh well, a little frizz might give my hair some body. :1rotfl:

Thats so nice of you all but I kid you not, It is just a thin mass of frizz now. That avatar was 9 years ago when there was a little bit of thickness.Thats why I wear it pulled up all the time.

Thankyou for the suggestion of Helen at Tuscany's, I may give her a shot next time Im down.

Hi Bare,

I had heard the same rumor about Helen - but give her a try. Feel free to use me as a referral. I was referred by a friend and maybe that is why I got in???

Hi LELANDJANE. I don't know about hairdressers in TV, but I just wanted to say that yes, it does happen overnight. And it always seems like it happens when you were planning to go somewhere the next day where you wanted your hair to look decent and then you wake up with the real roots showing and with your hair about an inch or two longer than when you went to bed. I do not get it either.

Barefoot, I know what you mean about fish. I love crab and shrimp and grouper is OK. Salmon for a little bit. But I cannot say there is any regular fish that truly floats my boat. And so I slather those filets with something like that Hellmann's and creamy horseradish and fresh dill thing. You can also leave out the fresh dill and just add a little ketchup to the Hellmann's and the horseradish stuff. That comes out kind of like that sauce they served with the bloomin' onion in some restaurant -- I cannot remember which one right now. It has been a while since I have had a bloomin' onion. That sauce is really good on crabcakes.

Today I got a little too carried away with my virtuous eating mode and tried to make a recipe that I saw in "Real Simple" magazine. It was for vegeburgers. It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever made. The basic ingredient was lentils and then it had couscous and some onion and carrots and an egg and oh I do not know why I am even talking about it. It was gross. Lentils are weird and their texture is weird. Or at least I think so. They had to go through the food processor which made them even weirder. It was a lot of work and Annie my dog got most of mine.

When I want to lay off meat for a couple of days, I often make beans and brown rice. I do not bother with the routine with the dried beans. I just use cans of beans, usually red ones. And then I top them with sour cream and chopped green onions. Mr. B. hits them hard with a hot sauce from his collection. I cannot do hot sauce.

Well, here I am, going on and on, trying to be such a Helpful Henrietta, acting like I know what I am talking about, when you all probably can tell that I really wolf down cheeseburgers whenever I get the chance.

But back to that sour cream for the beans and rice. I prefer Daisy brand sour cream. And my mayo has to be Hellmann's. I figure if I am going to go off the deep end, I might as well do it the way I want to.

Anyway, Barefoot, just a spoonful of Hellmann's helps the fish go down -- in the most delightful waaaaaay. (You have to sing that last part.)

Boomer Poppins

Ms Boomer

What do you expect from a magazine that doesn't know an adverb from an adjective???:highfive:

On the other hand I LOVE lentils. Jim makes the most wonderful Red Lentil soup - the Turkish thing again. I get a new son-in-law and a whole new world of foods....

k

PS - Hate Mayo - may be the only high calorie food I dislike... but I have a lot of friends who feel the way you and Bare do about fish, and would probably like your horesradish concoction... kind of like an upgraded tartar sauce...

Kate, I have had lentil soup that is good. But promise me that you will never, ever, ever put a bunch of canned lentils into a food processor, turn them into some kind of hideous mush, add a few ingredients, and then make the mess into patties, and put them on hamburger buns and try to pretend that you are eating something that is good. All the mayo in the refrigerator could not save those things. Annie was not too thrilled either. You are right. I should have known.

And Hi, Bettiboop, I saw what you said about not liking how your hair looks. I don't know if you have tried color, but sometimes a good colorist can really help. Especially with highlights that add dimension. There are cutting techniques that good hairdressers know that can add volume to fine hair. And there are also the thickening sprays. Bumble and Bumble makes a really good one. There are lots of great products out there now that add lift. Fine hair is not such a bad thing. The hair may be fine but there can be lots of them. It is just that the hair is usually very soft when it is fine and it wants to lay flat.

I always thought my hair looked kind of flat until I found the right hairdresser. Sometimes she uses these weird scissors that have teeth and look like she is about to cut off all my hair. But the teeth are varying lengths and so you end up with all sorts of layers that kind of stack up. She comes at me with a razor sometimes, too. -- And sometimes she is even trying to cut my hair with it. ;)

The hair thing can become such an issue for us women. In fact I think it was the first topic of discussion when the "Girl Talk" thread started over a year ago. It always comes up eventually when women talk. We are always in search of the perfect hair and we never seem to like our own. Oh well.

But Bettiboop, you are probably just being too hard on yourself. Your hair looks so cute in your avatar picture. (btw, Bettiboop is one of my favorite characters)

Boomer

I called today to Tuscany and got an appt. with Helen for Thursday at 1:00.
I'll let you all know!!!

LOL Boomer, if only my hair was that cute!:a20:
Lately I've been tempted to just shave my head...I kinda like the thought of just needing a washcloth to do my hair. ;)

Good luck Jane. She is a really nice person as well as a great hairdresser.

My frizz is getting frizzier by the minute. With this wet and humid summer I just want to put a bag over my head and cut a hole so I can breathe!

Does anyone know of a de-frizzing product on the market that I can try?

I have never known the joy of silky smooth hair no matter what I have used on it. I would like to know what that feels like before I go to meet my maker.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!:undecided:

Yes, LLJ, please let us know how Helen works out for you. I'm planning to use Kate's suggestion when I arrive in October. Only three more months until I'm through my Canadian exile and I can return to The Bubble. :clap2:

Boomer, now I'm out hunting for Bumble and Bumble. I always take your suggestions to heart. I need something for my lifeless, fine hair. I find that if I don't wash my hair for a month, it has lots of body. But now that I've lost all my friends, I need to find a more appealing solution. :girlneener:

Nonie,

I have a lot of hair... lots and lots and lots of it. To call it curly is being kind. What it really is is frizzy (with some wave). I have found two products that really help.

1. In place of conditioner every other time I shampoo, I use Moroccan Oil masque.

2. Before I dry my hair I use Keune Straight & Style. They carry the Keune line at Tuscany.

I only wash my hair about twice/week and blow it dry when it is damp. Later that day or the next day I use a professional-quality flat iron. The dept. store irons do not get hot enough.

My hair shines - it doesn't frizz much - even in TV in July!!!!!!!!!

I found it!
 

Bare... I found one Bumble but can't locate the other one! :girlneener: Big kiss to you darlin'!

BOOMER!!!!!! What makes you think that Girl Talk is finished??? Are we ever really finished talking? I think not! :)

Girls!

How lovely to see this thread reappear!

I just returned from my class reunion.

I will not tell you which one!

Too much wine!

Too much fun!

I will not post further tonight!

I have said quite enough I think.

And don't you just love this thread.

Thank you, Barefoot, for starting it all those many, many moons ago.

Boomer (er, did I make any typos???)

You are welcome Boomer. I just love this thread, yes I do.

Last night I was talking to friends about eating fish. And I was telling them how this girl that I know, Boomer, says that mayo and horseradish and dill hide the fishy taste.

It wasn't until later I realized that I really don't know Boomer at all, or Kate, or LL Jane, or lots of people.

But I sure feel that I actually do know you all, and that you're all my friends. :0000000000luvmyhors

Barefoot.

You are so right as usual.

This is a magnificent thread. One of the reasons is that there is no sniping or cutting or malicious intent.....JUST like you. You were one of the people I didn't know in person a little more than a year ago and you are just as you appear in this thread; nice and kind and funny and smart.

It was a very good idea to start this thread.

Psst. Do you think Boomer had a headache after that reunion?

Soooooo,Lelandjane, what happened with the haircut?

Good morning, Girls,

---and no, GG, Boomer did not have a headache.;)

All last week Mr. B. was away. The annual pilgrimage to Oshkosh to Airventure. I went to my class reunion with some of the other "girls" in my life. The ones I can actually see.

Mr. B. had said that he would come home a day early to go to the class reunion if I wanted him to. And I said absolutely not would I have you come home a day early from Oshkosh to go to my class reunion, Class of 19:eek:!

When he goes to Oshkosh, of course, I miss him. But he sure has fun. After he lets me know that landing is over and his feet are on the ground, he is off to a week of all airplanes all the time. Those planes land one after another after another there. For that one week in the summer Oshkosh is the busiest airport in the world. Mr. B. thinks the landing is fun. I hide under my desk until the phone rings and he tells me that part is over. I think the planes come in only a half mile apart. (not sure but I think that's right -- can't verify my facts -- he is still snoozing) But I know those little planes come in one after another after another. While I hide under my desk at home.

He got to see Sully and his co-pilot who did a program about stuff that pilots would like. And he and his nephews talked with an SR-71 pilot. The whole week is immersion in airplane stuff. A lot more fun for Mr. B. than my class reunion. Actually, he would have had fun there, too, but compared to Oshkosh?! No way would I even entertain the idea of trying to get him to give up Oshkosh for my class reunion. And so off I went to have fun with the girls while he went off to Oshkosh for that week with the guys. --and I know there was lots of farting in Oshkosh. You just know there was.

But today I am dragging Mr. B. away to help with moving day for one of "the girls" here.

This "Girl Talk" thread is so much fun. But "moving day" here in our thread is only a virtual experience. (For that, Mr. B. is probably glad.)

Boomer

Ladies,

I can now say that Gracie IS my friend - live and in person. Boomer, nONIE, Bare, Jane - hopefully we will meet in person soon - as well as being friends here.

Glad this thread is alive again. Need to run - they are paging my flight.....

Graciegirl, I totally agree, it is nice to have a safe place to chatter on. Without worrying about the guys dropping in. Oh, I like women so much, they are usually so supportive of each other. It must be terrible to have all that testosterone (sp) flowing through the veins.

By the way LLJane, how did your hair turn out?

GG, you are much too kind with your personal comments about me. I hate to tell you but I'm not the nice person that you think I am. Some days I go around in a purple funk and I need to keep pinching myself to remind myself I need to be grateful for my blessings. If I listed all my bad habits I'd run out of paper. Sometimes I'm mean to Fireboy because I'm mad at myself for something. And I keep some voodoo dolls in my bottom drawer, and I have hat pins, but haven't used them yet. Now nobody will want to be my friend!

I'm glad you and Kate got a chance to meet up and do some bonding. She looks so pretty and young in all her pictures. I'm interested to hear what you think of TV in the summer. Did the heat bother you? I'm always there during the busiest time of the year. Other than the temperature, can you notice a big difference between summer and winter in TV?

Barefoot, it is lovely in the summer too, sigh.
 

No. The heat is there but not so much that you can't go about the business of having fun. The water is lovely in the pools. I hate when it feels cold so I loved it. You sweat a bit when you dance, but the ride home in the golf cart feels so nice. There are different flowers blooming in the heat of summer and because there has been so much rain, everything is lush and tropical. The green is even greener and the sky is bluer and everywhere people are smiling and they are all so high on life.

You need to return to Paradise, Barefoot, and so do I.

Hi Girls!!
I just signed on, so have to read up and catch up with you gals...but wanted to answer your post Miss Bare. Quite the contrary my dear....we love you all the more with purple funk and voodoo dolls. You are a great friend and a very dear person!!!! :thumbup:

Nora Ephron wrote it
 

Hi Girls,

Fellow baby boomer Diane Sawyer just interviewed Nora Ephron on "Good Morning America." The movie "Julie and Julia" opens Friday. Nora Ephron wrote and directed it.

In the course of the interview, Diane and Nora got into the topic of women reinventing themselves later in life. Julia Child's famous cookbook was not published until Julia was 49. (Ohhhhhhhh, to be 49 again and know what I know now.)

I like Nora Ephron's writing and have been a fan since "Heartburn." I did have a few issues with her book "I Feel Bad About My Neck." Overall, it was fine, but got just a little too into a, "Hey, I'm Nora Ephron and you're not" attitude. I guess that book just went down the autobiography road when I was hoping for more of an "Everywoman" theme. The "Everywoman" theme was there though. And I sure loved the title. The neck is what gets us first. The legs are the last to go.

Darn it, I am digressing here.........and possibly being redundant. I think I talked about that book once before somewhere in all these buzillion posts I have written........I came in here this morning to talk about this movie and got sidetracked thinking I need to give Nora Ephron a few tips. Geez. Whatinthehellisthematterwithme? And I really do like Nora Ephron's writing. And also her quick, smartassed comments during interviews. When talking about jobs and how things can change, Nora said, "When men are dissatisfied, they buy boats. Women reinvent themselves."

Anyway, back to the movie. This is one of those movies where you should call up your girlfriends and say, "Hey, let's meet for the movie and then after, go out for some wonderful food and wine and gossip. (Hey, I just picked up somewhere that the word 'gossip' comes from the tradition of inviting your dinner guests to join you in the drawing room or the parlor or wherever, after dinner, to "go sip" a little something rather potent and talk. .......I am digressing yet again.....

Anyway, I brought you the trailer for the movie. (And speaking of word origins, I still do not get that trailer thing. Trailers come after. I do not understand the etymology of using the word 'trailer' like this. Of course, I also do not know when the word 'fun' suddenly became an adjective. But now I use it that way, too.) Oh well, here's the trailer for "Julie and Julia." Call your friends that you can actually see and get together for this one.

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8147217

Boomer

I love her!
 

Yes! Boomer, I'm right there with you about Nora Ephron! Heartburn is one of my favorite movies. And I'm always threatening my hubby with a Key Lime pie in the face! I love that scene!!!

Julia and Julie is definitely on my list of movies to see. I love everything with Meryl Streep anyway!

I'm also a great fan of Carrie Fisher's 'Postcards from the Edge'. Have you seen that? Old movie, but same type of humor.

Thanks for the trailer. BTW, the name could have come from the fact that they put these together after the movie is fully completed and edited. Or because all the stars stay in trailers. Who knows!!!! Just a thought. It is strange though. I always though "fun" being the beginning of "funeral" was weird too! LOL

I really liked her cookbook and I liked her for the most part, but Julia Childs always reminded me of a female impersonator.

Chels,

Thank you. Of course, that has to be it. They put them together after filming. The word has nothing to do with when I am watching. (Oh my! I must be one of those people who thinks everything is about me.)

I really am glad you explained it to me. It makes perfect sense now. Could you hear me saying, "DUH" and smacking myself on the forehead with the palm of my hand? Now it is obvious. (You would not believe the number of times something can be right in front of me, completely obvious, and I miss it.)

So thanks again. That "trailer" thing has been bugging me since it started.

Boomer

Looks Great!!
 

I just saw the "coming attractions" of Julie and Julia and it looks like its going to be great!!! Meryl Streep is one of my absolute favorites!! I agree Boomer, it would be a great movie to go out and watch with a bunch of girlfriends and out after for lots of laughs.
Altho, I dont think I will be in TV by then, but who knows? Maybe by then I can rent it and we can have a "gal pal party" at hopefully my new home in TV. I have to keep saying "hopefully" because I dont want to jinx my pending sale hehe :bowdown:.
I hope you all have a great day!!
:pepper2:

Chels & Boomer, be bugged no more! It bugged me too, so I looked it up. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_trailer), they're named trailers because originally the advertisements for upcoming movies were shown at the end of the featured movie. Since patrons tended to get up and leave before the trailers were finished, the trailers were moved to the beginning, but the name stuck. And there you have it. If it's on the internet, it must be true. lol

Thanks!
 

Thanks for the info Judy! That makes sense. Why bother to change the name! LOL

How are you??? I never run into you! PM me when you have time! :wave:

I was watching The Biggest Loser or one of those mindless programs last night. The "loser" was an enormous size ten and wanted to be a size four. :a20:

Speaking of diets, has anyone tried Herbal Magic or Herbal One?

I met Nora Ephron once - she is an amazing person. Saw Julia and Julie this weekend. Loved it - could watch it again. Meryl Streep was soooo Julia and the actress who plays Julie - Amy??? was great too.

At last, the final answer on that trailers thing. Thank you, uu.

And.......also.........

When I looked in and saw what Barefoot said about the diet stuff, I had to laugh about the parallel universes that converge in "Girl Talk." I had been thinking about just putting it out there. Just telling all of you. Right here. In "Girl Talk." Telling all of you about this new diet trick I am trying. And I think I will tell you. Right now. Maybe it will keep me on track. Sort of. If I tell you.

So here goes......

First of all, I must tell you that I cannot begin to tell you the number of magazines I have bought because, when I am standing in line at the grocery store, those magazine covers call to me, speak to me, promising to reveal the answer to making it easier.

Well, I bought another one of those magazines last week. The diet article was all about a study done at Baylor. What the study found was that drinking a glass of V8 before meals helped.

Interestingly, when I tracked down the reports on the actual study, the weight losses were not nearly so magical as the ones that had happened for the happy looking trim women in the magazine photos. They had dropped a lot of weight -- fast. Like always in the magazines. But hey -- hope springs eternal.

So I thought, whattheheck? Can't hurt. And, like I told you before, it was a long carbohydrate filled winter and I am still carrying the memories around.

So off I went to the grocery store again, where I bought a few bottles of V8 juice, low sodium, like the article said. (I did not buy any magazines on that trip.)

The article also said that the study used the DASH diet. (Dietary Approach to Stop Hypertension) DASH is a good and really healthy guide for anybody to use. Weight loss wanted or not. The study was partially funded by Campbell Soup which owns V8.

Well, I have never been a big fan of V8. And even though I can hear some of you out there whispering, "Pssssst, Boomer, Absolut or Grey Goose or Stoli or Ketel One," well, I think that might defeat the purpose. I will allow myself a jaunty celery swizzle stick though. And I'll try to conjure up a little imagination.

Actually, I found out that I can drink this stuff. Even though I have always thought it looked like it was about to clot. And I was really surprised that the low-sodium version is no worse than the regular version. (How's that for damning with faint praise.)

And so far, two pounds are gone. Since last week. The V8 seems to slow me down on what I eat.

(Well, tonight I did have a hot fudge sundae at Graeter's. But anybody who knows Cincinnati knows Graeter's is worth it. And they do not serve V8 at Graeter's. But I counted the sundae as dinner.)

My other thing I am doing is not eating after dinner. Staying away from the kitchen. No matter how much my geriatric dog tries to herd me in there to get a little something to share with her.

So girls, that is what I am doing. And I have been really debating about confessing to all of you. But then I thought, "Hey! You know what. Maybe if I write about this in the 'Girl Talk' thread, it could be like making some kind of commitment to actually sticking to it."

And who knows, maybe I could get paid to succeed. I heard on an NPR show the other day something about a new government program "Cash for Chunkers."

Sooooooo, do I hit "Submit Reply"?????? Do I share my angst with all of "Girl Talk?" Ohhhhhhhh, whattheheck........

Boomer

Yeah, right Boomer, easy for you to say. Staying away from the kitchen after dinner. If I could master this one "issue", not eating after dinner, I would be a happy camper. BUT, there are things in the kitchen constantly calling my name. Cookies and icecream and goodies. I can hear you saying ... Don't buy them and bring them home. I don't! Fireboy is the culprit. I hide them from myself, but of course I know all the hiding places! And then they call out my name. Sometimes at 3 AM they wake me up.

I'm looking for a chain and padlock for the fridge.

Oh Barefoot,

I will not say that. I know exactly what you mean. Today, Mr. Boomer and I were at the grocery together. I had run into someone I know and while we were catching up, Mr. B. escaped and went off by himself and brought back Coke and cookies, too. I told him that he had to hide the cookies from me, but that we had to put the Coke back. I cannot resist Coke if it is in the house. It can be down in the basement and I will go get it. Pepsi? Nope. Coke? Getoutamyway! Sooooo, no Coke in the house. Pepsi could be here for months on end and I would not care.

It is so difficult sometimes to be at the store with a husband. Grocery stores -- they get away and buy bad stuff.

And then there is when you end up in Home Depot. Mr. Boomer always escapes in Home Depot, too, and goes off to look longingly at expensive power tools. (I cannot for the life of me figure out which one he could possibly NOT own.) Sometimes I cannot find him in Home Depot. It is a big place. Endlessly fascinating to Mr. B. Sometimes, when I cannot find him, and I just want to leave Home Depot, I make obscene phone calls to him on his cell. And then he shows up. Works like a charm.

Whoops! Looks like it is after midnight.

Goodnight.

Boomer

Diet Foods and Home Depot!
 

Two things that are deeply coveted in this house. Mythical places, faraway dreams. I buy diet foods and watch them as they go bad in the fridge and vetman buys power tools and watches the boxes pile up in the garage. Some never opened. Yes, the intent is there, but our carry through, does not carry through.

Ha! My dad was in construction and I remember the first time he shook vetman's hand, he said to me later... "Never worked a hard days labor in his life!" Hahaha! Well, being a veterinarian is no walk in the park, but I knew what my Dad meant.

I'm seriously considering Nutrisystems again! Hey, Cash for Chunkers would be great! Let's get that ball rolling. :a20: (Oh Lordy! Now I'm thinking about meatballs! While vetman, fast asleep, is probably dreaming of an unopened power washer!)

Chelsea, someone has two months of Nutrisystem for sale in today's Daily Sun. I can relate to that person. Tried that program last year and lost all hope in life! The food's in a plastic bag out of sight (and usually out of mind).
I had success with a bariatric dr back in Alabama. Is there one in this area? What I liked best, of course, is that I dropped the weight quickly.

jojo, I was so caught up in the my butterball angst and my power tool plots last night that I missed this post of yours. You met Nora Ephron! If ever I meet you, please expect to be quizzed at great length about every aspect of your meeting with Nora Ephron, every nuance, every word. Oh my! I think Nora Ephron is a genius with dialogue and timing. I just looked her up and found that she just turned 68. Somewhat older than I am, but I feel like she has been around during all my formative adult years. I guess she has.

Actually, I did something that I never do. I went to see "Julie and Julia" the day it opened. I just had to see it. No time to line up a girl thing. I wanted to see it NOW.

And so on Friday night, Mr. Boomer went with me to the movie that I figured would be a chick flick. I could see though that Mr. Boomer had hope in his eyes. He said to me twice on the way there, "Julia Child was a spy wasn't she?"

Actually, it turned out that Mr. B liked it, too. (It might have been because of all that really fattening food in it.) But he had to admit that he liked it. Well.....he said it was OK. Pretty good. Some such thing.

"Julie and Julia" is one movie that I will go to see again. (I rarely do that.) But for this one, I will. For me, it is so much about the dialogue. Nora Ephron comes up with the best scripts, full of wonderful, funny lines. (That is also why I can watch "The Golden Girls" repeatedly. Whoever wrote those scripts was also exceptional with dialogue. I even liked "The Golden Girls" back when they seemed so ancient to me. Geez! What happened to that?)

So anyway, back to those diet tips confessions. I have got to get rid of last winter's 10 pounds. I cannot do that every time winter comes rolling around. (Yet another reason to winter in Florida.) And I need to lose more than just that 10. It is not like I was a stick to start with. What is it they say? "Built for comfort not for speed."

A year ago almost, in that thread about that dress, I finally showed you my picture, which I later took out when I got all bashful. And then in May of this year, I confessed about how I needed to fit into that dress again to do a reading at another niece's wedding. (-- other side of the family so I could wear the same dress. The dress was turning into the uniform of the reading aunt maybe.) Well, I did not report that I actually managed to get into that dress again, but I had to wonder if I looked like a sausage in its casing. (That woman who invented Spanx deserves every million she made though.)

Well, anyway, two pounds gone from that V8 thing I told you about last night. V8 and colorful food. I sure miss that white food. That is why I had to indulge in that Graeter's vanilla ice cream yesterday. But hey, hot fudge is a color isn't it?

Boomer