Many Doctors are now saying that the Omicron surge may ALREADY be DECREASING - or that it will begin in a few weeks with 1st cases and later hospitalizations and deaths beginning to decrease.
.....As to the media.......the legitimate ones (those around before about 1970 or you could say before RUSH ) - are NOT being alarmists. They are the factual TRUTH-tellers in a sea of misinformation and outright propaganda!

The comments are designed to de-legitimize the media, which unfortunately for us (and the US) is an early step toward toppling any democracy. Check that out historically!

A negativity cake with an icing of misinformation!

Agreed. Thanks very much!

Since the pandemic is pretty much over....we now have something much worse which will be on shore soon and in time for fall.....Viral hemorrhagic fever...China has 75 million locked down right now and yet again are not giving details...This is like Ebola folks...very bad.

Or, since some people are getting tested 10+ times, the "cases" may be over reported. No way to know

If you are referring to my post, there is a reply button that will allow a quote of my post to accompany your reply.
If you are replying to me, I did not say that anyone's condition was broadcast. I simply said that there is a segregated, partitioned area in the ER that is labeled and used for those that have or may have Covid. I also said that during the whole day that I waited, I only observed one person occupying that area. I don't believe I mentioned anything regarding "Hippa" so maybe your response was not to my post.
USMC68

Dr. golfing eagles, thank you for trying to provide a reality check. But those who grasp at straws will continue to dismiss reality and go on searching Facebook or wherever they get their “information” for things they can cling to in order to self-validate their refusal to vaccinate.

Meanwhile, my back-home area of Ohio has declared a state of emergency because the hospitals have so many patients very sick with Covid — almost all are unvaccinated.

I know one — a young man — who naively got caught up in that ongoing cause of his “freedom” to deny vaccination. And now he is in the hospital fighting Covid in a life or death battle. His family has been told it is likely that he will never be the same — if he survives, and his wife and kids and others who love him are collateral damage for his “cause.” (along with strangers who might need that ICU bed for a non-Covid reason)

On the other hand, I also know an 80 year-old with several co-morbidities who scared his friends and family when he was sick with Covid — for about 3 days — stayed home, felt really bad, but by the 5 day mark, he was back to his old self. He is vaccinated and boosted. (To me, that’s a case of the canary in the coal mine. That vaccinated and boosted old canary flew out fine.)

Not sure why I am continuing to bother with this. The unvaccinated will not be happy until they collapse the economy totally, I guess. And then they will deny responsibility for that, too.

Boomer

Good word "emmerder" - I will try to remember "emmerder"! And pretty good analogy about playing on I-4.In general, a great, intelligent post that comes at a very NEEDED time. Nice to read a well-written and smart post instead of the MOSTLY off-the-wall and confused one-liners and one or two-sentence posts that I, unfortunately, have to wade through the "emmerder" content of most posts.
......And I don't know how to BEST say this.....BUT, the post was very pointed and AGGRESSIVE, which I liked. But, I don't like the fact that someone in the US HAS to say it. But, it needs to be said and I, for one, am glad that it is now out in the open! We are in one of History's great PIVOTAL moments. The US can roll through these next few years only moderately wounded or the US can enter a period of Historic devolution toward darkness. (I will not spell that out and be specific) I just HOPE that justice and democracy prevail. The 1st outright battle was last year on Jan 6 - a day that may live in infamy. The casualties were light and hopefully, they stay light. Sorry, but that HAS to be said!

Boomer. Boomer, Boomer it’s probably fake news you might be watching.
I hope the anti-vax/unvaccinated show up to the hospital with an up to date DNR directive.

The Omicron variant IS elbowing out the Delta. That IS a good thing. And I believe that Omicron will level off and begin decreasing. It is also possible that something worse could replace it. The medical scientists think that is unlikely. So, soon people may be toasting Omicron as a savior......with this Virus anything is possible.
......The balance of the post had me scratching my head?????

I wonder what the reason/delay a person would spent all day in the ER?

Well Vaccines will be out of the equation
Can viral hemorrhagic fever diseases be prevented? No vaccines are available to prevent these diseases. Two exceptions are for yellow fever and Argentine hemorrhagic fever.

Maybe

Here's an internet blurb:

"The inventor of modern mRNA vaccines, Dr. Robert Malone, went on Steve Bannon’s War Room where he warned of a new disease spreading across Communist China that appears to be an “Ebola-like hemorrhagic fever” super virus.

Dr. Malone explained that “vaccinating into a pandemic will drive the development of escape mutants that are resistant to vaccination,” adding that the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) mass vaccination campaign “has mirrored that of the western world, and has resulted in a perfect storm of environment for developing a super virus.”

Do we believe this?----the combination of Malone---who has turned into a doomsday prophet, and Steve Bannon would tend to lack credibility

Well, there was no vaccine for COVID----until there was.

"Necessity is the mother of invention"

That is no Urban Legend. It is factual, per the Director of Health in Illinois. And that of Maricopa County, plus many others...

There is video of them saying that.

You also ignore those who died WITH covid and not FROM covid.

And that FL Administrator? She did no such thing. Stop spreading false information you may have "heard" and cite actual facts... She was fired for insubordination...

The fact is, most states are DOWNSIZING the number of actual covid caused deaths...

How Public Health Counts COVID-19 Deaths - YouTube

"At the time of death, and you had a covid positive test, you are determined to be a covid death. Even if it was not due to covid..."

State of Illinois Definition of a CoVID-19 Death - YouTube

Malone is saying it along with Epoch Times reported this also along with deaths occurring due to harsh quarantine...Locked In.

Sorry, she was NOT fired for insubordination. That was from "the other side of the story" which was a state government, which had greater control of information and in this case......misinformation. Depending on what side a given person was on - then some believed the state and some believed her. Her insubordination (which is a "catch-all", weak charge) REALLY was simply telling the truth ......and believing that her "truth will set her free". Joke.....the free state of our state. Maybe someday in the future. Or maybe it keeps getting worse. Be careful what you wish for!

What "media" would that be?

Anecdotes are anecdotal...

To your last point... sure, if you say so...

You just can't help yourself, can you?

No, not according to scientific studies. Once infected, vaccinated people seem to transmit COVID similarly to unvaccinated people. A peer-reviewed study of 162 Delta-infected index cases and their 231 household contacts—who were tracked and tested every day for up to 20 days, regardless of symptoms—found that once infected, the vaccinated were just as likely to transmit COVID to people in their own households as the unvaccinated: about a quarter of both did so. They also found that the asymptomatic infection rate among vaccinated and unvaccinated participants was similar: around 30 percent. This was published in Lancet Infectious Disease.

:bigbow:

Sure and Twitter suspended her account for "telling the truth"...

Access Denied

Twitter Suspends Account Of Former Florida Data Analyst Rebekah Jones | Health News Florida

Apples and oranges, which is why one needs to know how to read the literature. The key words in that blurb were "once infected". Since the vaccinated are less likely to get infected, the amount of transmission will be vastly different, even if the transmission rate, once infected, is the same. The next phrase of importance was "household contacts". This represents a lot closer contact than going to the grocery store. Thirdly, the asymptomatic infection rate is not so important, since they are less likely to be spewing virus into the air. Also, it is not clear if the fully vaccinated person spread it to household contacts or if they contracted COVID elsewhere, unless the whole family was locked up for the whole 20 days.

So, was that erroneous post just a potential FYI, or was there some hidden anti-vaxxer agenda to it? "Enquiring minds want to know":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Why is it the "unvaccinated's" fault for a collapse of our economy? After all, it is not their wish to be forced to stay home due to mandates. They are the ones that have been told that they can't work unless they get vaccinated. It seems that if you are honest about it, it is the fearful vaccinated that is forcing them to stay home.
Note: I am vaccinated and I am not anti-vaxxer. I am simply against being mandated against one's will and forced into bankruptcy because of their beliefs. I am against forcing vaccinations and I am against forcing mask wearing.
It is not the unvaccinated that are forcing a bad economy, but I can't/not allowed to say who is really responsible for a bad economy. Besides, aren't we being told that we are living in the best economy in a hundred years?

I've never seen a Gazette thread get this many posts!

As their editor sits back and muses "mission accomplished":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Iwillnotengagefurther.Iwillnotengagefurther.…

Boomer

The point, which you seem not to have grasped, is that someone posted "It's been proven that vaccinated asymptomatic people can still spread the virus"
and you replied "At a far, far reduced rate compared to symptomatic, unvaccinated people" and the literature says differently. Other studies have also shown that vaccinated people who have contracted the virus, shed as much virus as non-vaccinated people. It really doesn't matter if you are unvaccinated or vaccinated, the virus will be spread the same ways - people coughing, talking, close contact, etc. In other words, the rate of transmission will be the same if you have the virus and are vaccinated or unvaccinated, but the number of transmissions will be reduced because the vaccinated are less likely to have it.

I failed to grasp it?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

What I highlighted from your post is exactly what I said. And of course the method of transmission is the same.

So, "the literature" does not state differently. And again, "vaccinated people who have contracted the virus.....", not the same as all vaccinated people.

Therefore , I am at a loss to understand your reasoning. You disputed that vaccinated people spread to virus at a far lower level, then later, in the same post, agree. I'd also be interested in what sources you consider "the literature"????

I volunteer at the hospital and I can tell you that Tuesday, January 11, there were many COVID patients in the hospital - far more than the previous week.

More like a cake of reality and where is the misinformation in my post?
Mask up get sick, (It Happens Often)
social distance get sick, (It Happens Often, I'm proof)
mask up and social distance and still get sick. (It Happens Often)
Shoot a social experiment in your arm on top of all or part of the previous and still get sick. (It Happens Often, I'm proof)
No one knows where this thing will be in 2 days much less 2 months or 2 years. (Care to tell me where this will all be let's say March 13?)

Well, the mechanism as to why the UN-vaccinated would be responsible for the economy tanking - is that the hospitals fill up (with almost 100% UN-vaccinated) patients and there is no room for other needed operations. Without the promise of hospital care people (both vaxxed and non-vaxxed) start calling in sick for fear of REALLY getting sick or driving and having an accident. When people stay at home the economy falters. There are also other reasons for that responsibility.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought so because of nationwide trends. Beware ALL N's of one statistically speaking!

Please explain the misinformation in my post. I've experienced it first hand. Love to hear where I'm incorrect in describing what I've lived.

Good question. Perhaps you should address that when you get a chance to experience a trip to our Villages ER. They were good/nice folks there, but overworked with the short staff. Since I have very little experience with trips to the ER, any ER I do not know if that is normal to spend a whole day before finally seeing a doctor. However, vitals were taken right away, and back to your seat in the waiting room. Blood was drawn and back to the waiting room. Paperwork was filled out, and back to the waiting room. A diagnostic was conducted by a technician, and back to the waiting room. At about 4pm, finally taken to a treatment room and eventually seen by a very busy physician. Not complaining about the treatment, just stating the facts of how the day went. During that whole time period, I saw ONLY one person in the Covid designated area. I have no idea how the day before or the day after was like in the ER.

Definitely. Our country MUST start living with this. It may never go away.

It will go away. If it doesn't, it will be the first pandemic in recorded history that lasts forever.

leaving meaningful facts along with reported is why. You can't report # COVID cases (yes just a positive result and not sick) and evaluate those numbers to put it in perspective.

A positive COVID test result is not hospitalization not alone DEATH! The odds are way in our favor of not dying (not reported).