I believe the reason we have "more efficient" vehicles is because our gov mandated it, period. When we first went to catalytic converters on cars, we found that many Japanese vehicles could pass our emission tests without the converters. Just a point of trivia. I do not believe that MOST folks make changes based on what is better for the environment. Most base their decisions on personal economics. Our lower income folks live a middle class lifestyle because of discount products such as you find at Walmart or Sam's. A point of fact is that our poverty level folks live a lifestyle equivalent to the European middle class.
I would wager (if I was a gambler) that MOST Americans would choose a cheap priced gas guzzler over an expensive priced clean energy car.

It is also ridiculous to believe that offering a tax credit for purchasing an EV is any incentive to those that do not itemize or even pay any taxes to begin with. Tell me that the gov will pay for my EV, not give me tax credit and I might consider it.
If everyone is so hot on using less oil then why don't they put electric charging strips in every lane of every highway so the batteries can be charged as you drive? Until a battery pack can be made cheaply that will get you four miles on a charge AND recharge in a matter of a few minutes, an electric car is only good for the inner city, or short commutes to work. Like I have said before, long lines sitting for hours on the side of the road waiting to charge their vehicles for a couple of hours is not feasible.
Do I care about the air quality? Well the air quality is better now than when I was a kid and we have a larger population and more fossil fueled machines. Want make the air cleaner, start with banning all AIR travel on anything other than balloons.

Agreed. Not about to have an electric car for long trips when we have to sit and sit waiting on a charge. For now hybrid makes a lot more sense.

My cuss words are a tad bit stronger than yours.... I can't post them here...

Just a hint. When you thank someone you should include the post that you are referring to.

You are absolutely being argumentative. Nowhere have I said that I think we should eliminate all fossil fuels. That's because - I don't think we should, and I don't think we can.

I -do- think we should try and come up with sensible, pragmatic, and (eventually) cost-efficient alternatives to petroleum, and make more use of those alternatives so that we don't have to rely exclusively on petroleum. Mama taught me not to put all my eggs in the same basket. I happen to agree with mama.

I just filled up at the Circle K on 441 across the street from Wawa today. I paid $4.09/gallon. If I had an "easy pay" card I would've paid $3.99/gallon.

Because just owning a lease does not mean they can start producing today.

How many open leases were there last year?

Is there infrastructure in the area of these open leases or are they in the buttcrack of nowhere and the reservoir hasn't even been logged yet?

Each lease also has a use-it-or-lose-it clause. There is essentially earnest money that has to be fronted to cover all the government red tape and environmental impact studies.

Not only that, what type of oil is it? More heavy, high sulpher, high salt water content reservoirs don't really push the needle either.

The 9000 open leases is a talking point that doesn't reflect anything. The chances are those leases are not profitable or least not profitable without hundreds of millions in infrastructure buildout.

I won't do an easy pay credit card because you have to give them access to your bank account. Just another chance for it to be hacked.

Warning to those who do :::::: Someday you'll wake up and find your account emptied.

And we’re all this magic energy going to come from? We are like number 10 in untapped oil reserves.

Please quote the post where I said "just buy one" in regards to an induction stove. I'm pretty sure I never posted that. In fact, I do recall very distinctly that I said that an induction stove is "an alternative" (not the only alternative, not the alternative you should, must, or are ordered to use, but an - as in - one of others.) option.

I also recall mentioning that you can get a single-burner induction stove for around $100. That, to me, isn't "very expensive." People around here will sink $200 or more into the latest air fryer - so comparatively speaking, a single burner induction stove is pretty darned affordable.

Yep, in 3 more years :)

Yep, friend in need is friend in deed!

That's why I'm not in the market for a hybrid. If I could afford one, I'd love to consider one for my next vehicle. It'd be terrific to not have to rely exclusively on gas. But my 2010 piece of rusting tin on wheels refuses to die, and it still gets around 30 mpg. Maintaining it is relatively cheap - maybe $400 every 3 years including oil changes, routine maintenance, and occasional belt replacements.

A hybrid would be more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain. But if I had the money - well - that's what money is for - spending. I have always been and always be a cheerful capitalist.

Yes, electricity is free and never ending source. O wait are some areas having blackout problems in summer when all the air conditioners are running? I’m sure the grid will take hundreds of thousands electric car charging. O one more problem, lake Powell going dry, less than 1/4 full. So hydroelectric maybe be problem also….

Even if in market, lucky to find one right now.

Increased gas milage was due to the gas shortages in the '70's...

Limits to how many gallons, and how often you could buy gas...

The CAFE Standards came later...

You neglected that you also said this... "They can be pricey, and you might need to buy new cookware since your all-aluminum pans won't work on them."

And at the end you suggested people just sell the cars they have and buy a more fuel efficient vehicle...

All which echo the current people saying "just buy an electric car!"

Not everyone can sell a paid for car and buy something else. Not everyone can buy an induction cook top (along with the new pans required to use it) and stick it in a cupboard when not in use. Not everyone is as fortunate as many Villagers...

Easy to say, difficult to do. I’ll sell the place up north if you are volunteering to take over the many responsibilities that exist up north, including caring for elders with dementia. Also, you will need to convince the wife it’s not necessary to have a place near the kids, grandkids, other family, and lifelong friends. You cover that and I’ll gladly sell. How sweet would it be to not have two homes to take care of, not have to travel back and forth between homes, shed a major ongoing and expensive responsibility, and cash in about 3/4 million in the equity of the northern home.

True, a "difficult" choice. Some of us move down here and then end up with the opposite problem. Family sees what we have and ALL decide to migrate down here, around us. We have also found that being in FL we see our family (the ones still up N) more than we did when we lived up there. :ho:

Gas stations are the small fish and has no say so in price. So all oil in chain automatically goes up 2 hours after the price jump on stock market. I used to work in small grocery store when can goods had price increase the owner instructed me to remove all the prices on cans and stamp with new price increase. The same guy must be in charge of oil prices :1rotfl:

Sorry but I don’t care how much gas is in Europe. I buy my gas here in the good ole USA. Gas here in Texas is mostly $3.99 a gal. But if you look you can find it for $3.89 gal. So then why would I want to buy my gas in Florida either.

Well, if you were buying your gas in Florida, at least you wouldn't be in Texas. (although there is not much difference)

Biden has approved more permits than Trump. Look it up

Most of those permits were early one and had already been in the "pipeline" for years...

And then there's this...

Drilling permits spiked then plunged under Biden - E&E News