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Patty55 07-26-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 528646)
Wow. This really is the gift that keeps on giving. I thought we were going to let sleeping dogs lie. At least as long as they are on their property and not barking.

Or POOPING:thumbup:

Patty55 07-26-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 528643)
What does this mean??

"He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means."

IMO, this loosely translates to... I'm not a lawyer, but I once saw Judge Judy on the street.


(Standard PattyLand Disclaimer)
FWIW, all posts reflect nothing more than my personal opinion, based on nothing factual, subject to change and God knows, I could be wrong.

Barefoot 07-26-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 528600)
In this case, the neighbour may have thought he was being considerate by shielding his neighbours from the view of his dogs.

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528617)
What!!! how did U come to that conclusion, based on Happi's description (granted one sided) doesn't sound like that word is in his vocabulary or state of mind. As long as he files for a permit and it's approved he's good to go. He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means.

It wasn't a conclusion, it was a speculation. If the neighbour is adhering to existing restrictions and has an approved permit, what formal legal notice would you be filing?

skyc6 07-26-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528617)
What!!! how did U come to that conclusion, based on Happi's description (granted one sided) doesn't sound like that word is in his vocabulary or state of mind.

As long as he files for a permit and it's approved he's good to go.

He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means.

Well, Jimbo...there are three certainities in life.
1. death
2. taxes
3. being duped by a lawyer.

jimbo2012 07-26-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 528676)

IMO, this loosely translates to... I'm not a lawyer,

Correct I'm not, but putting one of my sons through law school helps :highfive:

I asked him about this subject when the thread was started, he researched it a bit as a hypothetical, and there are legal remedies and ways to notice the correct parties and agencies in the hope of avoiding a bigger mess.

The goal was to have the neighbor comply with the ARC restrictions and be certain they enforce same.

Having proper notice beforehand should prompt them to do so.

Now if a barrier planted fence was still installed, the person in the black robe can fault the proper party accordingly, especially with evidence of written notice.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_82jYjcjk6w...ies_498915.jpg

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jane032657 07-26-2012 01:27 PM

So many thoughts, opinions and attitudes. I still think everything boils down to communication and respect, not just rights and ownership, it is a package deal. No one "has" to tell their neighbors anythng that they are doing within restrictions and covenants on their own property, but sometimes it is good to share before things are done to help people overcome fear, speculation, wonderment, or to hear any specific concerns that can ruin relationships for decades to come. Does not mean you cannot, should not do what is within your rights on your own land, just means you build trust and friendship and neighborhood goodwill. While not there yet but on our way soon to our new home, we still have our old home. Today I am having a party for all my staff at my home with 60 plus people coming over at 3 pm, a BBQ catering truck coming and setting up a smoker, a handicapped porta potti delivered on the property as one of my staff uses an electric wheelchair for her CP. Rather than upset everyone, even though it is not their business, I sent an email to all my neighbors letting them know the score so they were prepared and understood what was going on. I have a half acre, no one can see anything, but people do see anyway, if you know what I mean. On August 25, we are having an evening party with a live band and about 60-70 people (our last bash but no one knows the real reason why the party is happening including the attendees as we have not announced our move yet!). Aside from inviting some neighbors, everyone in the neighborhood will get an email with details so they again know what is going on and be assured the music will be quiter at the 10 pm town curfew for noise. They will be aware of why the cars are out on our lane, and why they may here music and a crowd. I do not have to tell them, I am within all guidelines. But it brings peace and harmony and people feel respected. When our neighbors built a fence between us after the tall hedge died, we fully consulted on how to remedy the situation and also gave them money to help out. We are all adults. We can do what we want but we live in community. It is not about who can do what, but about how we live in harmony together, reach out to one another in times or distress or emergency, have one another over for visits, care for pets or yard or homes or elderly or whatever when someone is away, and mostly have long term relationships that are at minimum respectful and pleasant for all of our happiness. If we cannot have peace together in our little villages, what does that mean for the world? Well, I guess we see that on the news everyday.

gerryann 07-26-2012 01:33 PM

Jane, I am truly looking forward to being one of your neighbors.

Bogie Shooter 07-26-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 528703)
Jane, I am truly looking forward to being one of your neighbors.

There may be others that will want a vote.:D

jane032657 07-26-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 528736)
There may be others that will want a vote.:D

HAHA, funny guy you are. OK, point taken, I have an open attutude, I can take critique! Well when we had our swim spa delivered to our new place in TV, with a HUGE, and I mean HUGE crane, and huge flat deck truck with the 20 foot swimspa on it, and had it lifted up and over our villa, dangling in the air for everyone on 466 and Morse Blvd to see, and placed in the birdcage, the neighbors were notified and everyone had a great time watching. They were prepared, came out with beers in hand, and took part in what was a major neighborhood event. I met everyone around me, it was fun. No one complained and all were in awe watching. I think I am voted in, to date. There could be a recall notice, but heck, our bond is paid and we are there for life... love us or leave us! But know we are there for you if you need us and we hope you have fun at our parties!

Barefoot 07-26-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528617)
As long as he files for a permit and it's approved he's good to go. He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means.

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 528681)
If the neighbour is adhering to existing restrictions and has an approved permit, what formal legal notice would you be filing?

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528693)
The goal was to have the neighbor comply with the ARC restrictions and be certain they enforce same. Having proper notice beforehand should prompt them to do so.

I'm missing something here. Assuming the neighbour has an approval permit from the ARC and is adhering to existing restrictions, you're going to threaten the neighbour and the ARC beforehand, by serving them with "legal proper notice", to ensure compliance?

Boy Howdy.

jimbo2012 07-26-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 528780)
I'm missing something here. Assuming the neighbour has an approval permit from the ARC and is adhering to existing restrictions, you're going to threaten the neighbour and the ARC beforehand, by serving them with "legal proper notice", to ensure compliance?

Boy Howdy.

Girl Howdy, yes you're missing my point, this would not be an approach after compliance.

here is was stated
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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 520557)
Our new neighbors, as we speak, have landscapers on their property, plotting out their landscaping. They have been talking to the landscapers about putting in bushes/hedges all around their property to make sure the dogs stay on their property. They have mapped it out with the paint...
suggest talking to them.....we already did but they are in the mindset that the rules don't apply to them.

The fact is the day it was recognized with a landscaper and paint lines then thereafter a talk resulting saying the rules don't apply.

That's when the notices go out, U don't need a lawyer to send letters, just write out the facts and your understanding of the code to the neighbor, ARC and the developer perhaps.

If you don't complain it appears that u have no objection or acquiesce to the project. Hard to argue your position after the fact.

No matter how arrogant he may have appeared at the time he was asked he knows you're not going to let him violate the code and your rights as a secondary beneficiary of those codes.

Yes he can anything on his property within the code, but can't violate that code.

We drank the kool aid thinking that there were rules, codes and guidelines in place to insure quit enjoyment.

That make sense?


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skyc6 07-26-2012 04:21 PM

If he is within the deeds restrictions requirements, you have no position.
What Happi said was she found out he was in compliance, after eliminating 10-15 feet of shrubs. Done deal. Matter closed.

Bogie Shooter 07-26-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 528821)
If he is within the deeds restrictions requirements, you have no position.
What Happi said was she found out he was in compliance, after eliminating 10-15 feet of shrubs. Done deal. Matter closed.

somebody else said "closed" 50 posts ago.

shcisamax 07-26-2012 05:23 PM

So is it done???????????? Please tell me it is so. I am beginning to have nightmares about landscaping, views, dogs and now lawyers.

JohnN 07-26-2012 05:32 PM

sorry to hear it. check to see if their landscape plan was approved.
you can also complain about the dog barking.

however, it sounds pretty bad.

gomoho 07-26-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528799)
Girl Howdy, yes you're missing my point, this would not be an approach after compliance.

here is was stated


The fact is the day it was recognized with a landscaper and paint lines then thereafter a talk resulting saying the rules don't apply.

That's when the notices go out, U don't need a lawyer to send letters, just write out the facts and your understanding of the code to the neighbor, ARC and the developer perhaps.

If you don't complain it appears that u have no objection or acquiesce to the project. Hard to argue your position after the fact.

No matter how arrogant he may have appeared at the time he was asked he knows you're not going to let him violate the code and your rights as a secondary beneficiary of those codes.

Yes he can anything on his property within the code, but can't violate that code.

We drank the kool aid thinking that there were rules, codes and guidelines in place to insure quit enjoyment.

That make sense?


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Quiet enjoyment actually means that no one will knock on your door claiming rights to your property. It involves the transfer of deed. Was suprised myself when I learned this - thought it meant your neighbors shouldn't make noise!:read:

Barefoot 07-26-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 528866)
So is it done???????????? Please tell me it is so.

Only the Admin gets to decide that, not us posters!

I know that some home owners think that confrontation and warnings from lawyers will work in disputes with neighbours. But if it's a landscaping issue, and your neighbour is proceding with ARC approval, I say accept the inevitable with grace and charity.

SunCity 07-26-2012 07:44 PM

We can hardly wait to hear what Happinow has to say about the final results. Are you Happi now?

Patty55 07-26-2012 08:17 PM

You know what I always say, least said, soonest mended.

gerryann 07-26-2012 08:25 PM

Hmmmm......

graciegirl 07-26-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 528970)
You know what I always say, least said, soonest mended.

I saw that hmmmm, Gerry ann and I know what you are thinkin'...
And..Patty is usin' some of my material but she isn't me.

BUT


When I grow up I'd like to be a little bit like her...

I sure gotta say Patty kicks fanny.:BigApplause:

skyc6 07-26-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SunCity (Post 528953)
We can hardly wait to hear what Happinow has to say about the final results. Are you Happi now?

Happi clearly has moved on...possibly you should also.

Patty55 07-26-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 528994)
I saw that hmmmm, Gerry ann and I know what you are thinkin'...
And..Patty is usin' some of my material but she isn't me.

BUT


When I grow up I'd like to be a little bit like her...

I sure gotta say Patty kicks fanny.:BigApplause:

OOPs. you're right, I never say that. I say... NEVER GET IN A PEEIN CONTEST WITH A SKUNK.:cryin2:

gerryann 07-26-2012 09:33 PM

Actually my hmmmm only means hmmmm......no alterior motive or meaning.

Hmmmmm, I plead the 5th.

Is this landscape nightmare over yet???

graciegirl 07-26-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 529009)
Actually my hmmmm only means hmmmm......no alterior motive or meaning.

Hmmmmm, I plead the 5th.

Is this landscape nightmare over yet???

OH ...THAAT hmmm.

I only speak Ohioese and don't do dialects. ;)


I don't know if it is. I thought it was.

2 Oldcrabs 07-27-2012 05:42 AM

What
 
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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 529003)
OOPs. you're right, I never say that. I say... NEVER GET IN A PEEIN CONTEST WITH A SKUNK.:cryin2:

Where did that come from?:boxing2:

Barefoot 07-27-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 529003)
OOPs. you're right, I never say that. I say... NEVER GET IN A PEEIN CONTEST WITH A SKUNK.:cryin2:

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Originally Posted by 2 Oldcrabs (Post 529057)
Where did that come from?:boxing2:

It came from the Village of PattyLand, a place that clearly produces some original thinkers.

lovesports 07-27-2012 01:02 PM

:clap2::clap2:
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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 528997)
Happi clearly has moved on...possibly you should also.

:bigbow: :clap2:

Not just you but everyone.:)

Bill Tasker 07-27-2012 01:59 PM

I was told by the sales agent that although physical fences were not allowed, we could establish an arbor fence for privacy. I wonder if your neighbor was given the same info.

Bogie Shooter 07-27-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie Okruhlica Realty Executives (Post 529046)
I feel your pain.

Who is your??

gustavo 08-05-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 528997)
Happi clearly has moved on...possibly you should also.

All's well that ends well.

Bogie Shooter 08-05-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 534585)
All's well that ends well.

Is this what caused 270 posts...........................

Patty55 08-05-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 534585)
All's well that ends well.

:faint:OMG:faint: NIGHTMARE!! I may never be able to sleep again.

Barefoot 08-05-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 534606)
Is this what caused 270 posts...........................


:ohdear:

skyc6 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

Nearly 25,000 views!

CFrance 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 534741)
Nearly 25,000 views!

Hey, we were kinda stuck inside in this heat with nothin' to do...

swimdawg 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

I can't believe my eyes!
 
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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 534585)
All's well that ends well.

This was the "nightmare"??? Say it ain't so, Sam! :shocked: :shocked: :22yikes:

Moderator 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

Sounds like this topic has been thoroughly discussed and reached closure.

Thread now closed.


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