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shcisamax 07-24-2012 07:05 AM

Oh, ready? We have nothing to fear but fear itself. I bet that landscaping isn't nearly as bad as it was feared. And, if so, Happinow has built such a beautiful home along with her magnificent pool, spa, and entertainment lanai, they will slowly adjust to what appears to be a nuisance now but is simply someone building their dream as well.

CFrance 07-24-2012 07:07 AM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;527276]We say that in Ohio too. I think we said it first. ;)

No! We said it first! You have the best corn, remember?

Pturner 07-24-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 527255)
Up here at Lake Michigan, we have a saying: if you buy a house with a view, you better OWN the view...

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527276)
We say that in Ohio too. I think we said it first. ;)

[quote=CFrance;527319]
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527276)
We say that in Ohio too. I think we said it first. ;)

No! We said it first! You have the best corn, remember?

Let me settle this once and for all. We said it first on a rainy night in Georgia. Plus, we have the best peaches. ;)

Anyway, whoever said it first, it's as true as the sky is blue.

Nonetheless, I hope Happinow's environs turned out fine. Did they, Happinow?

CFrance 07-24-2012 05:47 PM

[quote=Pturner;527544]
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 527319)

Let me settle this once and for all. We said it first on a rainy night in Georgia. Plus, we have the best peaches. ;)

Anyway, whoever said it first, it's as true as the sky is blue.

Nonetheless, I hope Happinow's environs turned out fine. Did they, Happinow?

Huh. We have peaches too, here in MI. As for comparing them to GA peaches, I won't even go there.

Barefoot 07-24-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 527544)
Nonetheless, I hope Happinow's environs turned out fine. Did they, Happinow?

Happinow's green light is on, so she is online now. I'm hoping we get an update.

graciegirl 07-24-2012 08:55 PM

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jane032657 07-24-2012 09:02 PM

I thought she wrote in an earlier post that nothing had happened yet, which I took to mean that nothing has yet been planted? Just wondering. See post 177

shcisamax 07-24-2012 09:04 PM

And least said, soonest mend? Wow Gracie. Deep. Or how about: Tall fences make good neighbors? :)

Barefoot 07-24-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527276)
Happinow, someone told me the folks that are out your back door put in their landscaping. What do you think? Is it better than you feared?

[quote=Pturner;527544]
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 527319)
Nonetheless, I hope Happinow's environs turned out fine. Did they, Happinow?

Jane ... After Happ's post # 177 saying that nothing had happened, Gracie posted and said she thought the neighbour's landscaping was in. Just wondering how it looks. After 208 posts on this topic, I'm thinking that folks would like to hear what happened.

jimbo2012 07-24-2012 11:52 PM

My guess is enough pressure came to get the guy to submit landscape permits filed and just waiting for approval.

If Happynow was happy I think something would have been posted.

Barefoot 07-25-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 527867)
My guess is enough pressure came to get the guy to submit landscape permits filed and just waiting for approval.

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527276)
Happinow, someone told me the folks that are out your back door put in their landscaping. What do you think? Is it better than you feared?

Jimbo, GracieGirl previously posted that her sources told her the landscaping was in. And GG keeps her finger on the pulse of TV. With 18,000 views, this topic is obviously one of interest. That is the only reason I was hoping for an update.

Happinow 07-25-2012 09:27 AM

Landscaping closure
 
I was hesitant to post anymore regarding my landscaping disappointments because I really felt the thread had gotten out of hand. I didn't mean to cause such a stir. I was simply saying that I was very disappointed in what was happening on the lot adjoining my property. I've certainly learned a lot with this event. Some of you missed my point completely and others understand my concerns. My neighbors initial plan was to totally enclose his lot with shrubs to make a dog park for his dog so that he could let his dog out on his property without a leash, thus creating a barrier. These shrubs would run the entire length of my golf course view and then some. I read that no barriers of any kind would be permitted in TV, so I expected his plan to be shut down. I believe his landscaper told him that he was unable to put in shrubs along the property lines if he totally enclosed his lot. He then changed his plans and left about a 10-15 foot space open so that his property was not totally enclosed, thus eliminating the term "barrier". This alteration allowed his permit to be granted. I learned that dogs do not have to be on a leash if they are on your property. I thought they did if they were outside of the home. I also learned that you can do what ever you want with your property....it's your property. I am however, greatly disappointed that my neighbors would not consider what they are doing to our view as well as our neighbors. The rest of us were kind enough to consult with each other before we landscaped to be sure we could all see the course. It was the neighborly thing to do. He could easily apply landscaping without hindering our view at all and it seems selfish to me that he wouldn't consider the views of others who have paid a premium for their lot as well. On the bright side, We love our home and our lot (still). Life goes on and we will make the best of it. Perhaps the shrubs will be a blessing after all.

Barefoot 07-25-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 527961)
I was hesitant to post anymore regarding my landscaping disappointments because I really felt the thread had gotten out of hand. I didn't mean to cause such a stir. I was simply saying that I was very disappointed in what was happening on the lot adjoining my property. I've certainly learned a lot with this event. Some of you missed my point completely and others understand my concerns. My neighbors initial plan was to totally enclose his lot with shrubs to make a dog park for his dog so that he could let his dog out on his property without a leash, thus creating a barrier. These shrubs would run the entire length of my golf course view and then some. I read that no barriers of any kind would be permitted in TV, so I expected his plan to be shut down. I believe his landscaper told him that he was unable to put in shrubs along the property lines if he totally enclosed his lot. He then changed his plans and left about a 10-15 foot space open so that his property was not totally enclosed, thus eliminating the term "barrier". This alteration allowed his permit to be granted. I learned that dogs do not have to be on a leash if they are on your property. I thought they did if they were outside of the home. I also learned that you can do what ever you want with your property....it's your property. I am however, greatly disappointed that my neighbors would not consider what they are doing to our view as well as our neighbors. The rest of us were kind enough to consult with each other before we landscaped to be sure we could all see the course. It was the neighborly thing to do. He could easily apply landscaping without hindering our view at all and it seems selfish to me that he wouldn't consider the views of others who have paid a premium for their lot as well. On the bright side, We love our home and our lot (still). Life goes on and we will make the best of it. Perhaps the shrubs will be a blessing after all.

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear that you can live with the landscaping and still enjoy your home and your lot.

jimbo2012 07-25-2012 09:57 AM

Great, so the mayor (Gracie) was correct, boy howdy she knows everything :ohdear:

Barefoot 07-25-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 527979)
Great, so the mayor (Gracie) was correct, boy howdy she know everything:ohdear:

GG is usually an accurate source of information. You can take her to the bank. Or something like that.

Happinow 07-25-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 527979)
Great, so the mayor (Gracie) was correct, boy howdy she knows everything :ohdear:

Not everything.....

Joaniesmom 07-25-2012 11:39 AM

I think your comment about the shrubs being a blessing after all is right on. The less you have to see of this guy and his Bumpus Hounds, the better.

philnpat 07-25-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 528025)
Not everything.....

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 527979)
Great, so the mayor (Gracie) was correct, boy howdy she knows everything :ohdear:

If Gracie gave me a tip on a horse, I'd bet on it!

shcisamax 07-25-2012 12:37 PM

A theoretical: If you wanted to landscape or perhaps put in a large enclosure with your huge dream lanaii, pool, and spa and it was going to cut in the line of view of your neighbor(s) or somewhat impact their property, would you consult them before doing so and if it was not in their best interest, would you agree not to put in the enclosure as planned or give up that lot and find another that would be less offending to one or another of your neighbors? Or would you feel it is your property and this was what you planned for your lifestyle? It is an interesting dilemma because presumably we all want to have good relations with our neighbors but just how far does one go to accommodate them? In this case, however, it appears the neighbor didn't give a hoot about pacifying and managed to comply with ordinance but not to the remedy of Happinow's view. When those shrubs are grown, albeit it will affect the view at present, perhaps another one will be there that is just as nice but in a different way. Maybe more privacy?

Happinow 07-25-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 527912)
Jimbo, GracieGirl previously posted that her sources told her the landscaping was in. And GG keeps her finger on the pulse of TV. With 18,000 views, this topic is obviously one of interest. That is the only reason I was hoping for an update.


The landscaping hasn't even begun so GG has been misinformed.

jimbo2012 07-25-2012 01:04 PM

Haaaaa, forget about a tip on horse then:1rotfl:

Mudder 07-25-2012 01:12 PM

I agree with GG, when you're 72 you are happy that you can get up and go to the window and see the bushes !
Get a grip, people, this thread has lasted way to long.

skyc6 07-25-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 528060)
The landscaping hasn't even begun so GG has been misinformed.

Gracie was misinformed by "someone," but, of course, she very wisely came to the OP for comfirmation of this, so, I say, she still retains her Boy Howdy title!

gomoho 07-25-2012 02:24 PM

Dear Happinow - it was an interesting situation and we all readily gave our opinions - whether you wanted them or not. So things seem to be somewhat resolved and hopefully you will enjoy whatever comes of it. Now we'll move on to the next neighbor's dilemna and look forward to those posts as well. Enjoyed visiting with you on TOTV.

graciegirl 07-25-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 527276)
We say that in Ohio too. I think we said it first. ;)

Happinow, someone told me the folks that are out your back door put in their landscaping. What do you think?

Is it better than you feared?


I am quoting myself.

Obviously that "someone" was wrong.

I still say. Least said, soonest mended.
All's well that ends well.
and Much ado about nothing.

Happinow 07-25-2012 03:27 PM

Thanks to everyone
 
Thank you all for your input and opinions on this thread. I agree, it has lasted way too long. Let's put it to pasture and move on to a lighter topic! Life is too short....:icon_wink::)

Barefoot 07-25-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 528130)

I still say. Least said, soonest mended.
All's well that ends well.
and Much ado about nothing.

I think you also said Tempest in a Teapot :icon_wink: maybe I dreamed that one.

Oh sorry, I thought I was on the "Old Sayings" thread.

bxmt54 07-25-2012 05:02 PM

Come on...
 
Is this ever going to end?????

skyc6 07-25-2012 06:16 PM

Yes, it is. Thanks goodness! :)

zcaveman 07-25-2012 07:28 PM

When all is over I would like to see some before and after pictures of Happinow's view. Just to see what she and and now does not have.

It might help future buyers with their decision on where to buy.

Z

KEVIN & JOSIE 07-25-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 527961)
I was hesitant to post anymore regarding my landscaping disappointments because I really felt the thread had gotten out of hand. I didn't mean to cause such a stir. I was simply saying that I was very disappointed in what was happening on the lot adjoining my property. I've certainly learned a lot with this event. Some of you missed my point completely and others understand my concerns. My neighbors initial plan was to totally enclose his lot with shrubs to make a dog park for his dog so that he could let his dog out on his property without a leash, thus creating a barrier. These shrubs would run the entire length of my golf course view and then some. I read that no barriers of any kind would be permitted in TV, so I expected his plan to be shut down. I believe his landscaper told him that he was unable to put in shrubs along the property lines if he totally enclosed his lot. He then changed his plans and left about a 10-15 foot space open so that his property was not totally enclosed, thus eliminating the term "barrier". This alteration allowed his permit to be granted. I learned that dogs do not have to be on a leash if they are on your property. I thought they did if they were outside of the home. I also learned that you can do what ever you want with your property....it's your property. I am however, greatly disappointed that my neighbors would not consider what they are doing to our view as well as our neighbors. The rest of us were kind enough to consult with each other before we landscaped to be sure we could all see the course. It was the neighborly thing to do. He could easily apply landscaping without hindering our view at all and it seems selfish to me that he wouldn't consider the views of others who have paid a premium for their lot as well. On the bright side, We love our home and our lot (still). Life goes on and we will make the best of it. Perhaps the shrubs will be a blessing after all.

I was so glad to hear that the owner who paid for their property is allowed to use their property for what they feel fit, as long as it is within deed restriction guidelines. It's great to know that a dog owner is allowed to let his dog run loose on the property that he paid for, as long as it is trained to stay on his property. He's living his dream! This all sounds reasonable to me. :doggie:

swimdawg 07-26-2012 10:18 AM

What is the end of the story?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 528143)
Thank you all for your input and opinions on this thread. I agree, it has lasted way too long. Let's put it to pasture and move on to a lighter topic! Life is too short....:icon_wink::)

Wait a minute.....wait a minute! :confused: 231 posts dating back to July 12. There have been over 21,000 views. You say it is a NIGHTMARE.....and you're not going to tell us how the story ends?

Barefoot 07-26-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KEVIN & JOSIE (Post 528411)
I was so glad to hear that the owner who paid for their property is allowed to use their property for what they feel fit, as long as it is within deed restriction guidelines. It's great to know that a dog owner is allowed to let his dog run loose on the property that he paid for, as long as it is trained to stay on his property. He's living his dream! This all sounds reasonable to me. :doggie:

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 528583)
Wait a minute.....wait a minute! 231 posts dating back to July 12. There have been over 21,000 views. You say it is a NIGHTMARE.....and you're not going to tell how us the story ends?

This thread affects us all. Not this particular situation with Happ, but just in general. Does a property owner have the right to use his property as he sees fit as long as it adheres to existing restrictions? I think he does. Does he need to get "permission" from every neighbour (in this case the neighbour was living on a different cul de sac) before he makes changes? If a neighbour builds a birdcage or adds privacy shrubs, does that make him a bad neighbour? In this case, the neighbour may have thought he was being considerate by shielding his neighbours from the view of his dogs.

On our side of the street, which backs on a golf course, some people have small birdcages, some have huge birdcages with pools and summer kitchens, and some people are content with the builder's lanai. Does that make the people with the big birdcages bad people? I've never heard any complaints about views being blocked.

Patty55 07-26-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 528583)
Wait a minute.....wait a minute! :confused: 231 posts dating back to July 12. There have been over 21,000 views. You say it is a NIGHTMARE.....and you're not going to tell us how the story ends?

Although I haven't read the entire thing (my time is way too valuable), I consider myself qualified to do the recap...

Apparently the spitting Vette (Red Vet) owner has set his shrubs back 10-15 feet to comply with the rules, evidently the OP recently found out that he has the right to do what he wants on his own property including, but not limited to enjoying his dogs, having a barefoot cleaning woman, spitting, driving a red Vette and paying cash for him home.

ALL IS GOOD :thumbup:

A Kumbaya weiner roast is scheduled for tomorrow night :22yikes:

getdul981 07-26-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 528606)

A Kumbaya weiner roast is scheduled for tomorrow night :22yikes:

When and where?

Patty55 07-26-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 528610)
When and where?

Don't know, I think my invite was lost in the mail-LOL

jimbo2012 07-26-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 528600)
In this case, the neighbour may have thought he was being considerate by shielding his neighbours from the view of his dogs.

What!!! how did U come to that conclusion, based on Happi's description (granted one sided) doesn't sound like that word is in his vocabulary or state of mind.

As long as he files for a permit and it's approved he's good to go.

He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means.

graciegirl 07-26-2012 11:42 AM

boy howdy

Bogie Shooter 07-26-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 528617)
What!!! how did U come to that conclusion, based on Happi's description (granted one sided) doesn't sound like that word is in his vocabulary or state of mind.

As long as he files for a permit and it's approved he's good to go.

He's fortunate that he's not my neighbor, I would have handled it differently with formal legal notice and other equitable legal means.

What does this mean??

shcisamax 07-26-2012 12:05 PM

Wow. This really is the gift that keeps on giving. I thought we were going to let sleeping dogs lie. At least as long as they are on their property and not barking.


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