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Velvet 09-25-2023 09:47 AM
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This is one article, many more the same. I notice some people are valiantly trying to ignore the fact that the reason why Covid was called a pandemic was in part because the same thing happened in many many countries in the world. I don’t understand the comfort that people get from trying to ignore/explain away what actually happened?

JMintzer 09-25-2023 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 2260177)
“Just a tad is correct.” .0002 % versus .0008% Statistically significant? That would be a question for experts.
I was simply commenting on the "Factoid" that the flu shot can cause GBS...

Not that it was a valid "factoid"...

JMintzer 09-25-2023 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2260154)
But that 8.1 per million was only for the J&J vaccine and not for the mRNA vaccines (at least according to the CDC and Cleveland Clinic)
The NHI did not differentiate...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...isk%20of%20GBS.

mickey100 09-25-2023 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2260259)
This is one article, many more the same. I notice some people are valiantly trying to ignore the fact that the reason why Covid was called a pandemic was in part because the same thing happened in many many countries in the world. I don’t understand the comfort that people get from trying to ignore/explain away what actually happened?
A lot of these people base their beliefs on false information and social media rumors. Also, many of their political leaders spread this false information. So they don't dare admit the truth or see beyond the lies because that would be agreeing with their political opponents. Denial can also be a crutch or coping mechanism because people have extreme anxiety.These are the people that won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, etc. They also are prone to believing conspiracy theories and hoaxes. And when their leaders promote these false ideas, it compounds the problem, and they feel vindicated.

Clearly the number of deaths in this country from Covid was an aberration. It wasn't normal, and many of those people would still be alive had it not been for Covid.

JMintzer 09-25-2023 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2260270)
A lot of these people base their beliefs on false information and social media rumors. Also, many of their political leaders spread this false information. So they don't dare admit the truth or see beyond the lies because that would be agreeing with their political opponents. Denial can also be a crutch or coping mechanism because people have extreme anxiety.These are the people that won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, etc. They also are prone to believing conspiracy theories and hoaxes. And when their leaders promote these false ideas, it compounds the problem, and they feel vindicated.

Clearly the number of deaths in this country from Covid was an aberration. It wasn't normal, and many of those people would still be alive had it not been for Covid.
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Altavia 09-25-2023 10:43 AM
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Bill14564 09-25-2023 10:50 AM
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Sure they did. Read the last sentence of the highlighted section

Decadeofdave 09-25-2023 11:08 AM
I just saw a news report with a doctor that says the current covid Vax is same one from February. May be outdated.
I will talk to my doctor and get more info. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

Altavia 09-25-2023 11:35 AM
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I just saw a news report with a doctor that says the current covid Vax is same one from February. May be outdated.
I will talk to my doctor and get more info. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.
Here's the info from John's Hopkins:

What to Know About the Updated COVID-19 Vaccine for Fall/Winter 2023 | Johns Hopkins | Bloomberg School of Public Health

Velvet 09-25-2023 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2260270)
A lot of these people base their beliefs on false information and social media rumors. Also, many of their political leaders spread this false information. So they don't dare admit the truth or see beyond the lies because that would be agreeing with their political opponents. Denial can also be a crutch or coping mechanism because people have extreme anxiety.These are the people that won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, etc. They also are prone to believing conspiracy theories and hoaxes. And when their leaders promote these false ideas, it compounds the problem, and they feel vindicated.

Clearly the number of deaths in this country from Covid was an aberration. It wasn't normal, and many of those people would still be alive had it not been for Covid.
Thank you, this may be true for some people. I, personally prefer not to be an ostrich, myself, but if it helps some, well ….

Bogie Shooter 09-25-2023 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2260279)
I just saw a news report with a doctor that says the current covid Vax is same one from February. May be outdated.
I
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This is how those silly conspiracy theories are started.
BTW…which news report?……a real doctor?…..may be outdated, why?

JMintzer 09-25-2023 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2260277)
Sure they did. Read the last sentence of the highlighted section
You are correct. I missed that...

Byte1 09-25-2023 02:59 PM
Fifteen pages that started with the OP commenting on the availability of the booster shots. How many actually referred to the OP in their responses? I don't believe that the OP asked anyone whether or not they should get the booster or whether or not it was safe or whether or not their doctor suggested getting the booster.
And this post doesn't answer the OP's question either...........:oops:

JMintzer 09-25-2023 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2260314)
Fifteen pages that started with the OP commenting on the availability of the booster shots. How many actually referred to the OP in their responses? I don't believe that the OP asked anyone whether or not they should get the booster or whether or not it was safe or whether or not their doctor suggested getting the booster.
And this post doesn't answer the OP's question either...........:oops:
A thread on ToTV went off the rails? Pshaw, You say!

Stu from NYC 09-25-2023 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2260315)
A thread on ToTV went off the rails? Pshaw, You say!
Was it due to hunger


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