As opposed to those who have been vaccinated and can just as easily transmit the virus?

Ditto.
I've had COVID twice. First time was before the vaccine. I was tired and had a headache - no respiratory issues.
The second time was after I had both doses of the vaccine (no booster). Symptoms were much worse, but I was not hospitalized (again no respiratory issues).
I know at least 10 people who have recently had COVID. All of them have had both shots plus the booster. Some have had the same symptoms I had... some had worse.
I am not going to get a booster shot.
Why?
1. Because it's not going to prevent me from getting COVID.
2. If I get COVID, it doesn't mean my symptoms will be less severe.
Everyone has to do what they feel is right for them. I respect everyone's decision. But for me... I'm not getting the booster.

Based on my experience, 100% of the people I know who have recently gotten COVID have been double vaccinated, and 90% had the booster. In fact, the people I know (just a few) who haven't gotten the vaccine still have not gotten COVID.

100% of the people I know who have recently gotten COVID have had both vaccines and the booster.
You may want to blame people that haven't gotten the vaccine. But based on what I have seen the virus is infecting people who have gotten the vaccine... and booster.
I know of 2 people who were double vaccinated and had the booster and died from COVID.

Thanks for your input & your opinion. At least you expressed how you feel. Thank you!

Not a very good point. My wife is vaccinated and caught covid from a neighbor that was fully vaccinated and thought that she was protected. And she gave it to me and I am vaccinated. Yes, someone not vaccinated can be "blissfully wandering around society and be asymptomatic" but so can someone that is vaccinated. It's better just to say that those vaccinated are somewhat protected from the virus, not fully protected.

Isn't the point of having the vaccination to reduce/eliminate hospitalization and death potential?

Not that the vaccine prevents being infected.

Please share any information you have found that describes side effects of getting vaccinated "over and over and over." I would be very interested, as I am considering getting my fourth shot.

Lots of data on side effects and breakthroughs or persistent symptoms, but nothing on adverse effects of a fourth shot when you have had no symptoms from the first three.

Thanks

Unless an individual gets tested regularly and by regularly I mean at least once per week, NO ONE knows if they have had Covid or not. Asymptomatic infection is just that........asymptomatic. That means NO SYMPTOMS.

As an aside......I've been tested only twice for cruising and was negative both times. That may not mean I have not ever had Covid. I just may have but was asymptomatic, just like anyone else who claims they have never had Covid.

Just wondering.......were those two people who died from Covid immunocompromised? Folks who are immunocompromised do not get the full benefit, if any at all, of the vaccine protection.

Yes. That is my understanding.

That's the point NOW...

Initially, we were told that it would prevent infection... Yet here we are...

One of the individuals was in their late 80's. I don't know the medical history of these individuals, but one of them was on a cruise right before they came down with COVID. So they were healthy enough to go on a cruise. I don't believe either individual had any life-threatening illness (eg. cancer).

So, they had their vaccinations before they left on their cruise and caught covid and died anyway, right? Not trying to imply anything, just wondering if we are still wanting to blame death by covid on the unvaccinated, or finally admitting that the vaccination is not quite the miracle elixir that everyone wishes it to be. I am not down playing the worth of the vaccination, and have mine but some folks seem to believe that it is ONLY the unvaccinated that are dying from covid. We were on line every morning to get our vaccinations, driving hours to our appointment, and still caught covid. Yes, it was a mild version, but the point is that you can't depend on just a vaccination to protect you. You must be prudent in your daily activities until this thing dies out, IF it does.

IMO: I have not been hit by a car crossing the street but I still look both ways every time (as insurance!). Clearly the vax does not prevent covid but it does lessen the severity if it is contracted. And…there are documentated cases (in fact just saw one on the local news last night) about people with even mild covid symptoms suffering from longer term after effects (including balance issues, blood clots, lack of energy etc). Look at The Villages Newcomers (Jerry & Linda). They say they are not yet back to 100% more than 3 weeks after contracting covid with mild symptoms.

The rate of infection, especially severe infection went down consistently across the world as vaccinations increased. That correlation is good enough for me. Will I get / need a forth shot? Haven’t decided yet. I do get annual flu shots so maybe I’ll do an annual booster if that is recommended. Neither me nor anyone I know who was vaccinated has had severe reactions to the vaccine. On the other hand, you don’t get a ‘do-over’ if you forego the vaccine and become severely ill or worse yet, die. Not worth the risk to me.

We were both vaccinated, and we caught the dreaded covid. Even though she tested positive twice, she still insisted that she had nothing more than a mild cold. She still adamantly insists that it couldn't have been covid, since it was milder than colds she has had. On the other hand, I do not get the flu and hardly ever catch a cold. Probably ten years since I had a cold. Covid gave me a congested head and a sore throat and some coughing. No fever. My taste was distorted, which made tomato sauce based food taste terrible and sweet foods taste extra sweet. No effect on my sense of smell.
Supposedly, we now have an abundance of antibodies plus the vaccination so we should be in pretty good shape. Supposedly, those that have had covid have three times the protection of those that are vaccinated. Add the vaccination to that protection and we should be able to enjoy a fairly normal lifestyle. I probably won't be getting boosters for it. It is waning right now, and that looks to be a pretty good forecast for the future. That's my opinion and I did not mean to influence anyone else's decision. I may be totally wrong, but that is just my reasoning on the booster idea. One thing that also makes a difference is that I have NO medical issues, and that should be a consideration in anyone's rationale when making health care choices.

All about money 💰. Why stop at 4.

You're talking about a 4th shot and currently we are being told to delay getting the second shot for a few more weeks, instead of getting it at four weeks. Not sure if they are even sure about what is best, but like some say....their information is "evolving." Who knows if a third shot (booster) is even needed. Or, maybe they want us to get a booster every three months. I've been vaccinated and still got the covid so I don't know if a booster is even needed FOR ME.

Do you think you were played....

Who to believe? So easy to be lied to.

Media/political success story.....mass confusion!!

Please STOP. Do not give them any ideas.

Waiting to see if you disappear before commenting.

Gary, my onc advised against the vaccine. I developed a low grade fever (under 100) and a sore throat in end of January.. I was set to get the monoclonal treatment, however that option was taken away. Treated with a strange assortment of meds. The symptoms hung around for a couple of weeks, but never got worse. I do not know if the meds halted and reversed the virus progression. The only thing I do know is that I wish there was more transparency around the tests conducted by the vax companies, and more options to treat the illness.

If the CDC and the FDA recommend and approve a 4th booster for my demographic, I'll get the 4th booster. As long as it's recommended and approved by the CDC and FDA, my insurance will cover it. If it turns out to be another yearly shot like the flu shot, I'll get them both every year. I had the flu once a few years ago. Not interested in going down that route again.

My sister and husband both have had COVID. My husband had the current Omicron version - felt miserable for a few days but was otherwise his usual self. Sister was sick as a dog for months, lost her sense of taste and smell, had trouble breathing, trouble moving, any worse and she would've needed hospitalization.

I'm not interested in finding out how badly I'd experience it, if I caught it.

Hey, Pat did you have a conversation with my Primary Doctor? :1rotfl: He just told me the same thing you said almost word for word. He and his wife will not be getting shot #4.

He did advise me to get the shot. So shot #4 for me on Monday. What the hell. :super:

I am not a Doctor or advisor to others about their decision on any shot. It's none of my business.

This is why home prices will be so much lower in a couple years.

My wife said she has no intention of getting a booster, period. She is a cancer survivor and has diabetes, had two shots and recently survived covid.

My doctor examined my blood work and mentioned that I had my two shots. Did not ask me if I wanted a booster, and I didn't bother asking him if I should.

One who would be 80-85 years or more old probably has a different view on whether to vax 4 or not.

It was never a question for me. Looked to see how the thousands people over 50 who got 4th shot were doing in Israel. They are doing fine. The vaccine doesn’t cost me anything, so everything is looking good.

Huh? Care to exaplin?

The sheep are helping Big Pharma boost their profits.

Doesn't cost you anything? Wanna bet?

I do not recall ever being told that the mRNA vaccines will prevent infection. Only "sterilizing" vaccines can prevent infection. mRNA vaccines are NOT sterilizing vaccines.

I recall VERY VIVIDLY thinking, "thank goodness I'm fully vaccinated because I will not become hospitalized and die from this virus if I get infected. I never ever thought I would never become infected with the virus because I was vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine. MSM "hammered" that fact with every reporting about the mRNA vaccines.

I don't know about the J&J vaccine because that is not the vaccine I was given and therefore did no reading about that one at all.

As an aside......."sterilizing immunity vaccines" do not make a human sterile. What they do is offer sterilizing immunity meaning the virus can not infect an individual who has been vaccinated. I do not understand why people continue to think that our Covid vaccines offer sterilizing immunity to every person who is vaccinated. They never have.

Read about sterilizing immunity............

COVID-19 Vaccines: The Myth of '''Sterilizing Immunity''' - The Atlantic

Coronavirus: few vaccines prevent infection – here's why that's not a problem

Cancer is not the only condition that can make an individual immunocompromised. You just never know by looking at someone who may be immunocompromised. Someone in their late 80s could die from the common cold so there is that.

Having a strong robust immune system will most likely prevent a vaccinated individual from dying of this virus. Not so however, in unvaccinated individuals. They take their chances and seem to be very proud to do that.

At this point, Omicron seems to be no more than the common cold in individuals with a strong immune system who are fully vaccinated and boosted. Those who are not vaccinated.......good luck to you.

Do you feel the same way about the annual flu vaccine? Is that a money grab too?

One and only flu shot was 2002, with a lovely anaphylactic reaction, good news is I have never had the flu.
1/2 dose of first Moderna vaccine with severe reaction. Big Pharm doesn’t make any money off of me.

Many don’t get flu vaccine, do quite well without

Interesting perspective. I know many unvaccinated individuals who easily survived COVID (I was one of them... I got it before the vaccine was available. I know a number of people who survived before the vaccine was available. One of them was on a pacemaker and had respiratory issues... yet... they survived).

I got COVID a second time after I was vaccinated twice. I was sicker the second time.

Based on my experience and knowing a number of people who have had COVID... It's just not that simple. Unvaccinated people survive. Vaccinated people who have had the booster die. (and...Unvaccinated die...Vaccinated people survive).

Personally, I think people have to do what they think is right for them. And I think people have to stop judging people for making decisions that aren't in alignment with what they might think.

Then your memory is faulty. The POTUS told us exactly that. Faucci told us exactly that. Maddow told us exactly that...

I believe her words were, "If you get the vaccine, the virus stops. You cannot catch it and you cannot spread it..."