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CoachKandSportsguy 08-08-2021 09:19 AM

Very simple answer the government's lack of interest
 
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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1983313)
I accept the premise of your post which is why I simply do not understand our government's lack of interest in therapeutics?

Our Govt, meaning the US, as there are many govt around the world, is now populated with people who love being in power more than being a leader. Most have never had to lead in the true sense of the word, which includes shared sacrifice.

Also, the supreme court decision which allowed corporations to act as voting entities allowing political contributions has created a third party to the people electing government officials, and they have much deeper pockets than individuals.

I urge all of you to read Tom Nichol's book, "Our Own Worst Enemy: The Assault from within on Modern Democracy"
Amazon.com

You can see this happening very slowly within the political organization of "The Villages"

and yes, you and I (the royal we) are all still humans with all the normal human foibles available to us to falter with, the most common being believing in stories but weighting negative stories much more heavily for survival. ..

almost retired guy
president of my high school's internet debate club

kkingston57 08-08-2021 02:25 PM

Just a thought and too late now, but the politicians should have considered giving the stimulus money to vaccinated persons only.

Have 2 nieces from a sister and a niece and nephew from brother. 2 of the 4 will not get vaccinated. Guess which ones, based upon Grade Point Average, are not getting jabbed?

GrumpyOldMan 08-08-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 1985922)
Just a thought and too late now, but the politicians should have considered giving the stimulus money to vaccinated persons only.

Have 2 nieces from a sister and a niece and nephew from brother. 2 of the 4 will not get vaccinated. Guess which ones, based upon Grade Point Average, are not getting jabbed?

I disagree, it is not too late now. It has been suggested (in this thread or another on here) that a $5,000 check go with each jab.

Swoop 08-08-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 1985922)
Just a thought and too late now, but the politicians should have considered giving the stimulus money to vaccinated persons only.

Have 2 nieces from a sister and a niece and nephew from brother. 2 of the 4 will not get vaccinated. Guess which ones, based upon Grade Point Average, are not getting jabbed?

The ones with the higher GPA decided against getting vaccinated…

Bay Kid 08-09-2021 06:41 AM

No welfare payments until you are vaccinated. That should do the trick. Also go look for a job!

JMintzer 08-09-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1986101)
No welfare payments until you are vaccinated. That should do the trick. Also go look for a job!

It'll never pass the SCOTUS...

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-09-2021 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1986101)
No welfare payments until you are vaccinated. That should do the trick. Also go look for a job!

Sure, the ones who are least likely to have access to the vaccine are the ones you want to punish.

Federal funding of the vaccine is NOT distributed evenly throughout this country.

JMintzer 08-09-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1986132)
Sure, the ones who are least likely to have access to the vaccine are the ones you want to punish.

Federal funding of the vaccine is NOT distributed evenly throughout this country.

Correct...

Here in DC, they concentrated the vaccine disbursement in the poorer parts of the city before giving it to the richer parts of town...

Wait a sec... That's not what you meant at all!

GrumpyOldMan 08-09-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1986227)
Correct...

Here in DC, they concentrated the vaccine disbursement in the poorer parts of the city before giving it to the richer parts of town...

Wait a sec... That's not what you meant at all!

Yup, that's right, and that is one out of 20,000 cities in the US.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-09-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1986227)
Correct...

Here in DC, they concentrated the vaccine disbursement in the poorer parts of the city before giving it to the richer parts of town...

Wait a sec... That's not what you meant at all!

Here in Florida, they concentrated it on one very exclusive batch of the absolute wealthiest and politically-connected first. Then they gave it to the Seniors. Then the essential workers but only over a certain age. Then the plebians were allowed to get it.

fishon 08-09-2021 01:30 PM

The CDC announced that we can beat the Delta and Lambda variants if we just self isolate for fourteen days and mask up…….

Uh, hold the phone. I’ll get back to you.

JMintzer 08-09-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1986280)
Yup, that's right, and that is one out of 20,000 cities in the US.

You don't think the same thing was done all across the country?

golfing eagles 08-09-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1986283)
Here in Florida, they concentrated it on one very exclusive batch of the absolute wealthiest and politically-connected first. Then they gave it to the Seniors. Then the essential workers but only over a certain age. Then the plebians were allowed to get it.

Agree the order was seniors, essential worker then everyone else. But would you care to cite a source that substantiates that the vaccine was first given to an "exclusive batch of the absolute wealthiest and politically-connected". And don't include a photo op where politicians received the vaccine in public to show people it was safe.

golfing eagles 08-09-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 1986286)
The CDC announced that we can beat the Delta and Lambda variants if we just self isolate for fourteen days and mask up…….

Uh, hold the phone. I’ll get back to you.

Yep, looks like they're back to those magic masks again.

GrumpyOldMan 08-09-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1986294)
You don't think the same thing was done all across the country?

No, do you?


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