Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 1983574)

a gentle reminder - (from another post elsewhere)

Imagine being born in 1900.
When you are 14 years old
World War I begins
and ends when you are 18,
with 22 million dead.
Shortly after the world pandemic,
flu called ′′ Spanish ",
killing 50 million people.
You go out alive and free,
and you are 20 years old.
Then at the age of 29 you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange causing inflation, unemployment and hunger.
Nazis come to power at 33.
You are 39 when world war 2. begins
and it ends when you are 45 during the Holocaust (Shoah), 6 million Jews die.
There will be a total of more than 60 million dead.
When your 52th Korean war begins.
When you are 64, the Vietnam war begins and ends when you are 75.
A baby born in 1985 believes his grandparents have no idea how hard life is,
and survived several wars and disasters.
A boy born in 1995 and 25 today believes that the end of the world when his Amazon package takes more than three days to arrive or if he doesn't exceed 15 likes for his posted photo on Facebook or Instagram...
In 2020., many of us live in comfort, have access to various sources of entertainment at home and often have more than needed.
But people complain about everything.
They have electricity, phone, food, hot water and a roof over their heads.
None of this existed.
But humanity survived much more serious circumstances and never lost the joy of life.

Maybe it's time to be less selfish, stop whining and crying

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1983821)

I mentioned about the health care workers (nurses, etc.) not wanting to get the vaccine and a poster thought I equated that with the stats on the doctors, which was not my intention. I merely wanted to point out that nurses and other health workers were not on board with the vaccinations and perhaps that was telling in some way.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1983291)

The first is cherry picking out of the bible--and not very relevant to the current situation--to suit one's own belief.


The second is a faith-based opinion that has nothing to do with science, from one of the original anti-vaxxers, talking about small pox vaccination. A hundred--hundred!-- years ago. Opinions and faith-based ideas that differ from what's empirically established is not valid science.

Originally Posted by Cview (Post 1983769)

Ivermectin was what I wormed my horses with, what kind of doctor prescribes ivermectin for Covid????

Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1985374)

That's exactly the problem. There has been no science to prove masks work, the virus has never been isolated, the creator of the pcr test says it doesn't work, & the vaccines don't either.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1983291)

The first is cherry picking out of the bible--and not very relevant to the current situation--to suit one's own belief.


The second is a faith-based opinion that has nothing to do with science, from one of the original anti-vaxxers, talking about small pox vaccination. A hundred--hundred!-- years ago. Opinions and faith-based ideas that differ from what's empirically established is not valid science.

Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1985374)

That's exactly the problem. There has been no science to prove masks work, the virus has never been isolated, the creator of the pcr test says it doesn't work, & the vaccines don't either.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1985416)

All of this is false. Completely false.

Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1985466)

Not exactly. There are studies out there that find masks are not effective, especially the type the majority are wearing. All you have to do is look at them. There are numerous gaps that allow the virus through. The virus goes through the cloth masks. Maybe if worn properly, the N95 masks would work but few are wearing those.

If you want a 'mask' to work, you need a respirator, the type you see body shop painters using. There is a definite seal around the mouth and nose. Air passes through a filter that captures any virus.

Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1985466)

Not exactly. There are studies out there that find masks are not effective, especially the type the majority are wearing. All you have to do is look at them. There are numerous gaps that allow the virus through. The virus goes through the cloth masks. Maybe if worn properly, the N95 masks would work but few are wearing those.

If you want a 'mask' to work, you need a respirator, the type you see body shop painters using. There is a definite seal around the mouth and nose. Air passes through a filter that captures any virus.