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coffeebean 08-15-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1983358)
Since all (vaccinated or not) are now seen as major spreaders of the contagious Delta variant, the only differentiator is who gets sick. Why are you (no one specific; just the reader in general) all worried about those not willing to get vaccinated (me and millions of others)? It's not like the unvaccinated are a special risk to anyone. Your fellow vaccinated citizen is just as likely to be infected and contagious as all the talking heads are saying right now.

All you vaccinated folk can infect each other without any help from me or others. You can also catch and spread the virus to all the "vulnerable" population (elderly, sick, immune compromised, etc) all by yourselves.

So, why the passports? Lockdowns? Masks? F*cking the economy up? Now, it's even move obvious that it's all about control. The only people at risk are those CHOOSING not to get vaccinated. Let me take my risk. Don't worry about me. Go about your lives.

It would now seem, given the current parameters, that we should just put COVID-19 on ignore. According to the experts, there is no reason to ask anyone "are you vaccinated?" as your behavior should be the same no matter what the answer. The unwashed masses are not more likely to be infected / contagious / dangerous than all those who chose the path of putting an experimental cocktail in their arm (twice).

It boils down to this fact: The various rules then are simply to coerce vaccination.

Spin it anyway you like but the fact remains folks who are vaccinated pose much less of a threat for spreading the Delta variant than unvaccinated people........

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science | CDC

coffeebean 08-15-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1983366)
This quote is taken from the link you provided: “He adds that his team's analysis shows that almost every single one of the 100 million unvaccinated Americans who hasn't had COVID-19 yet will likely get it in the coming months”.
Based on that, we will achieve herd immunity pretty quickly…

Based on that those un-vaccinated people will also be offering up the ability for the virus to mutate and create all sorts of new variants. Oh joy of joys!

coffeebean 08-15-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1983371)
Get the shots and we will get to Herd immunity quicker.

Get the shots and we can prevent those impending variants while we are at it. Get a clue.

coffeebean 08-15-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1983385)
Via the words of the CDC's own director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, vaccines are now failing, and vaccinated people may now carry higher viral loads than unvaccinated people, contributing to the spread of covid.
The vaccine hoax is now collapsing as vaccinated people are now catching the "delta" variant and spreading it to other vaccinated people. Even worse, the vaxxed are the "super-breeders" who are incubating yet more dangerous vaccine-immune covid mutations.
Thus, people who signed up to be vaccinated not only got played by the CDC, they are now the super-spreaders and super-breeders who are worsening the entire pandemic.

I do not think our CDC director said any of this. Kindly supply a source for "her words". Better yet.....how about a video so I can see her say those things with my own eyes and ears. Thanks.

biker1 08-15-2021 08:15 AM

Presumably, the vast majority of the readers of this forum have been vaccinated. I would guess the number is well in excess of 90% based on what I have seen from the CDC. So, I am not sure who you are preaching to. Regarding variants, the Delta variant was first observed in India. Since only about 25% of the world's population has been fully vaccinated, the opportunities for variants is, and will continue to be, huge. I would suggest that you get a clue because you appear to be focused on the inconsequential (a relatively small number of people in The Villages who, for whatever reason, haven't been vaccinated) and seem to spend the better part of your day fixated on this forum.

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1989322)
Get the shots and we can prevent those impending variants while we are at it. Get a clue.


coffeebean 08-15-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1983435)
No one escapes this life, alive. You can use all the makeup and botox you want and look young, but you ain't young and will DIE eventually. If it ain't COVID it's war or terrorism or a building collapse.

I get what you are saying BUT......I prefer to depart this life later than sooner. I will continue to eat right (well, most of the time), exercise and keep my mind sharp (well sort of anyway) and love life.

coffeebean 08-15-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1983482)
Not true. That is false information.

Not false at all. I could link several stats but will go to the naughty room so won't do it. The information is to be had. Just go to reliable sources.


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