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ts12755 06-13-2020 11:06 PM

Our people need to get their lives back outbreak or no outbreak. The very old and the very sick need to stay home. Especially the old people that don't work anymore or have children in school.

ColdNoMore 06-14-2020 05:23 AM

If any meaningful contact tracing program were in place, we could find out what % the Floyd protests...contributed to the rise in Covid-19 cases.

And I'm sure that many people gathering, a lot without masks...certainly resulted in at least some additional cases.

But the fact that the virus is now reaching and increasing cases in rural areas, where no protests ever occurred, simply tries to once again...obfuscate and throw out red herrings in an attempt to blame only one demographic.

Not that fair, decent & intelligent folks...are surprised in the least.
:ohdear:

GoodLife 06-14-2020 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1783820)
If any meaningful contact tracing program were in place, we could find out what % the Floyd protests...contributed to the rise in Covid-19 cases.

And I'm sure that many people gathering, a lot without masks...certainly resulted in at least some additional cases.

But the fact that the virus is now reaching and increasing cases in rural areas, where no protests ever occurred, simply tries to once again...obfuscate and throw out red herrings in an attempt to blame only one demographic.

Not that fair, decent & intelligent folks...are surprised in the least.
:ohdear:

Experts Fear Large Protests Could Lead to Spike in COVID-19 Cases

“Things like yelling, speaking loudly, chanting can increase the number of droplets that are exposed,” said Abby Rudolph, an epidemiologist at Temple University. “Police tactics like teargas and pepper spray increase the risk of coughing and expelling mucus and droplets in the air.”

Experts Fear Large Protests Could Lead to Spike in COVID-19 Cases – NBC10 Philadelphia

GoodLife 06-14-2020 06:06 AM

But the fact that the virus is now reaching and increasing cases in rural areas, where no protests ever occurred, simply tries to once again...obfuscate and throw out red herrings in an attempt to blame only one demographic.

Are you sure it's only increasing in rural areas? We know that kids never drive into the big cities when there are massive protests. :ohdear:

GoodLife 06-14-2020 07:32 AM

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As we have seen, the media picks and chooses which states they want to portray as doing a good job or a bad job on virus control. Even though Florida has managed the pandemic much better than New York, it gets attacked in the press repeatedly.

Now they are running stories about spikes of cases in various states and appear to put the blame on reopening too early. Comparing graphs of new cases in Florida and New York gives a better understanding.

Florida

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Look at that huge spike! 2500 new cases in one day!

New York

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Look how good New York is doing, they've gone down from 12,000 new cases per day to 2000, great job!

I don't know if the Florida spike is an anomaly from backlogged tests or if its a sign the virus is resurging. If it's a resurge I would certainly take a look at huge protests that have been taking place for past two weeks as a source for new infections.

There has been no big spike in Sumter County, 4 new cases in past week. There also haven't been any huge protests either.

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf

Bay Kid 06-14-2020 07:54 AM

They are just getting to testing in rural areas, plus city folks are escaping to the rural areas from all directions.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-14-2020 09:31 AM

I have been going to the restaurants and they have been spacing tables and staff have been masked , but you look up at bar especially outside bars and it’s just like before the virus hit.. I do feel safe in restaurant here’s a little tip before you go into bathroom put on your mask , it’s close inside of bathroom, and people from even off the street are using them

Everett Rhyner 06-14-2020 06:25 PM

I think that’s a good idea that’ll take care of some of the traffic problem in the January February and March they should re-open everything

MEbner2805 06-14-2020 06:34 PM

That’s the entire Sumter county mind you! People love to spread doom and gloom and the facts say otherwise here. We can’t shut the world down forever and after a while the shutdown is more destructive than the virus. We had a high death rate of 2018 flu and nobody complained so not sure why the hysteria is occurring right now. People can’t survive if they do not work. Businesses will all close and the ignorance will surely backfire. Common sense approach is best.

Clydles1 06-14-2020 06:37 PM

Houston...
 
Got stuck in a rally at LSL this afternoon. No one, and I mean no one, had a mask. I realize they were in golf carts but come on, yes it’s going to be around for a while but let’s not be stupid people!

Carlsondm 06-14-2020 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1782976)
The sooner we get back to 100% open the sooner we will know what we are really dealing with.

The increased testing (?) supposedly contributes to higher incidences.

The problem we see is us elders (early 80's) will have to REMAIN conservatively vigilante until there is a vaccine.

There will not be another lock down.

We will learn to live with what ever numbers result just like we do with the flu, auto deaths, et al.

Increased testing contributes to higher incidences? Hahaha. You are SO funny.

Nationwide statistics already hint at which states are slumping on the testing. The important number should be the % of deaths per total positives. Florida skimped on the testing so it shows a higher % of deaths per positives. The more general testing to locate the asymptomatic COVID carriers, the lower the percent deaths would be for Florida. Many Govs realized this.

At any rate, our numbers are still climbing so be careful.

ColdNoMore 06-14-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clydles1 (Post 1784318)
Got stuck in a rally at LSL this afternoon. No one, and I mean no one, had a mask. I realize they were in golf carts but come on, yes it’s going to be around for a while but let’s not be stupid people!

Of late, and since I can't change their minds anyway, I'm leaning more toward "if a certain part of the herd wants to thin themselves out...let'em go for it." :D

I'll just keep wearing my mask and do everything possible to avoid others, especially those...who don't seem to care about anyone but themselves
.
:ohdear:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 05:22 AM

Yesterday, there was one additional case reported "near the Villages". It was in Lady Lake. So far the number of cases in The Villages has remained stagnant. Mo new cases in the past week in spite of more testing.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Clydles1 (Post 1784318)
Got stuck in a rally at LSL this afternoon. No one, and I mean no one, had a mask. I realize they were in golf carts but come on, yes it’s going to be around for a while but let’s not be stupid people!

I'll say it again. The Corona Task Force has stated that the risk of contracting the virus outdoors is very low and it is almost impossible to contract it when the temperature is above 77 degrees F.

Am I the only one that has heard this report?

Linda Taranto 06-15-2020 08:53 AM

I remain cautious, my husband is in a Memory Care facility and I haven’t seen him (except through the window) since the beginning of March. I just got tested (negative) as a requirement for going to his room and seeing him in person. I will also need to remain cautious when I am not in the facility. I am so thankful that we are finally getting to this point because this sweet people in memory care facilities have no contact with their loved ones and don’t understand. Many are declining and many are dying. Where they live I call God’s Waiting Room. They won’t be getting better.
So everyone has their own story or reality, let’s respect each other’s opinion and view.

JoelJohnson 06-16-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1783148)
81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.

The right metric is deaths over total outcomes. Until we know the outcome of those that tested positive for COVID-19, we don't know much. They might recover or they might die, we have to wait to find out. But if we know the total number of deaths and the number of recovered then we can determine the death rate.
If we go with about 3,000 deaths and 23,000 recovered in Fl, then we get 23,000 + 3,000 = 26,000 (Total outcomes). 3,000 / 26,000 = .115 or 11.5%.

So about 12 people out of 100 die.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-17-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlsondm (Post 1784330)
Increased testing contributes to higher incidences? Hahaha. You are SO funny.

Nationwide statistics already hint at which states are slumping on the testing. The important number should be the % of deaths per total positives. Florida skimped on the testing so it shows a higher % of deaths per positives. The more general testing to locate the asymptomatic COVID carriers, the lower the percent deaths would be for Florida. Many Govs realized this.

At any rate, our numbers are still climbing so be careful.

Sorry to disagree, but the number of deaths is irrelevant. For one thing it will be tied to the demographics of the area. In an area with an elderly population like The Villages we can expect to see a much higher death rate.
The other thing that the death rate doesn't take into consideration is the number of people hospitalized, or the number of people whose lungs have been permanently damaged by ventilators.
Where do you get that Florida has skimped on testing?

GoodLife 06-17-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1785098)
The right metric is deaths over total outcomes. Until we know the outcome of those that tested positive for COVID-19, we don't know much. They might recover or they might die, we have to wait to find out. But if we know the total number of deaths and the number of recovered then we can determine the death rate.
If we go with about 3,000 deaths and 23,000 recovered in Fl, then we get 23,000 + 3,000 = 26,000 (Total outcomes). 3,000 / 26,000 = .115 or 11.5%.

So about 12 people out of 100 die.

Might want to contact the CDC about your calculations. Their current overall death rate for all age groups is 0.4%. The only age group over 1% death rate is over 65 at 1.3%

When you include CDC projected 35% additional asymptomatic cases, the overall death rate for all ages is .26%

COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios | CDC

CDC's Latest 'Best Estimate' of COVID Death Rate Is 13 Times Lower Than Initial WHO Claim


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