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Haggar 06-16-2020 08:18 AM

Masks
 
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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784906)
No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

Hate to let science get in way but air is .383 nanometers. The corona virus is 5 to 20 nanometers, The size of the air molecule is what lets you breathe while wearing a mask but prevents N95 masks from the transmission of most of the virus molecules.

It cannot capture all of it because it not a tight fit on your face.

I have many friends who are nurses and doctors. They were panicking over the lack of available masks. To those who don't want to wear masks do you think they know something you don't?

Mumbles 06-16-2020 08:22 AM

Ohhhh
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1784908)
NOT TRUE. PLEASE DON"T SPREAD YOU MISINFORMATION!!!

The virus, in and of itself is easily small enough to go through a regular mask. But people DO NOT expel single viral RNA strands. They expel a bunch of viral particles in even larger aerosolized droplets, which a mask can stop most of the time if worn properly. However, a mask is very ineffective at stopping a person from GETTING the virus

It would be so convenient, for those of us who are not medical doctors, to have you print your CREDENTIALS when you make statements about a deadly disease. If you are NOT a medical professional at the doctor level, it would be most helpful if you began your statements with : IMO or IMHO. That would help the rest of us interpret your statements as non-professional.
That may go a loooong way in helping us keep cool heads and may even severely damage bad bickering in this forum.

Mumbles 06-16-2020 08:25 AM

Ummmm
 
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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784959)
Let’s help the community as a whole by having no one leave their house. Everything is home delivered until not one new case of the virus. Ok? Then, in November, guess what? A new strain of the flu. So let’s just wear masks and social distance forever because each year a new flu strain appears. Get it? It goes way beyond “keeping us safe.”

What an excellent idea. I'm all for it, believe me. IMHO we would all stay IN and NEVER go out again! lol

ldivens 06-16-2020 08:27 AM

The protesters have rights we don't have

kendi 06-16-2020 08:27 AM

I haven’t been in a store yet where It was so crowded I couldn’t stay 6 feet from others. When someone who is passing me is closer than 6 feet I simply look in another direction as not to breath on them. I really don’t think it would matter if I was facing them though since I’m only breathing normally. If a mask is required I wear one. If I were in a crowded place I would wear one but mostly for the mental health of others. The panic over this virus is ridiculous.

Mumbles 06-16-2020 08:27 AM

Hmmmm
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1784987)
Just wondering.....did you read the article I linked?

I did. I hope all of it is true to fact. I am going to completely rely on it.

Jacob85 06-16-2020 08:29 AM

I agree with the article. Yes some droplets can get through but it only makes sense that having a mask on everyone is better than none at all. If you practice physical distancing with the mask you have cut down your chances of receiving enough of the load of droplets to infect you. Time exposed, strength of the amount of virus you inhale plus distance will lower your risk. It makes sense.

kendi 06-16-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 1785163)
It would be so convenient, for those of us who are not medical doctors, to have you print your CREDENTIALS when you make statements about a deadly disease. If you are NOT a medical professional at the doctor level, it would be most helpful if you began your statements with : IMO or IMHO. That would help the rest of us interpret your statements as non-professional.
That may go a loooong way in helping us keep cool heads and may even severely damage bad bickering in this forum.

Even those in the medical profession have different opinions.

kendi 06-16-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 1785173)
I agree with the article. Yes some droplets can get through but it only makes sense that having a mask on everyone is better than none at all. If you practice physical distancing with the mask you have cut down your chances of receiving enough of the load of droplets to infect you. Time exposed, strength of the amount of virus you inhale plus distance will lower your risk. It makes sense.

Don’t need the mask when social distancing.

HelenLCSW 06-16-2020 08:31 AM

Not true
 
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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784906)
No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

and your scientific source for this information?

Mumbles 06-16-2020 08:32 AM

Hmmmm
 
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Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life (Post 1785114)
Masks do not stop vapors pure and simple, they are political statements and nothing more..

And, you know this how?

theruizs 06-16-2020 08:32 AM

Dr. Fauci discouraged masks because he was concerned about shortages for medical use. If you do any amount of research at all it is pretty clear that masks help reduce the spread. It is not that they protect you from getting it (although they are now saying it may help). It is more that it helps keep the infected who are pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic from spreading it to others. The only mask that is really good at protecting the wearer is the N95. Others will provide some protection, at least better than none. But any mask or face covering at all is very good at keeping infected people from expelling virus into the air through breathing, talking, coughing, or sneezing. If you choose not to wear a mask you are risking others health, not just your own.

Cybersprings 06-16-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1785144)
According to the deniers on here, a mask is not instrumental in limiting the spread of the virus. Therefore, the deniers are also saying that you should not cough into your shirt sleeve/elbow or wash your hands frequently.
Come on, a mask will limit the germs, even if it does not prevent the spread. A mask is better than NO MASK and you all know it. Of course it won't stop ALL the virus "microbes." But, it does help. So does wearing eye protection and gloves. If you do not agree, that is up to you. Deny, deny, deny and go about your business playing Russian Roulette. Personally, I am not concerned for myself but I wear protective gear to "help" prevent my spouse from getting the deadly virus. Perhaps some of you deniers do not have anyone that you love enough to care about their welfare. Hope you deniers attend lots of demonstrations too, to test out your assertion that living without precaution is just as effective as those that do their best to protect each other with what is available.

Nearly 1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. Please tell me you do not drive or ride in an automobile so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone that you love enough for that?

frasep 06-16-2020 08:41 AM

What you're saying may be true but it's not like we're wearing masks 24/7.

OhioBuckeye 06-16-2020 08:45 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784906)
No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

I’m not here to argue with you but I’ll keep wearing mine & you can keep sucking in all of the virus air that I miss & the ones that do wear a mask appreciate it too. The people that wear mask will keep wearing ours even though the virus goes right though, then if we get Covid-19 I’ll agree with you. Hope you’re right, but just as a safety precaution I’ll keep wearing mine. Thanks for your expertise information though!

aces_04 06-16-2020 08:46 AM

Do or don’t but
 
If one chooses to wear a mask please,
Don’t pull it away from your face as you talk.
Don’t wear it on your chin.

It defeats the purpose

If you do either why?

airstreamingypsy 06-16-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ldivens (Post 1785168)
The protesters have rights we don't have

Yeah, that pesky Constitution gives them those rights.

theruizs 06-16-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 1785186)
Nearly 1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. Please tell me you do not drive or ride in an automobile so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone that you love enough for that?

I keep my car in good condition and it has good brakes, turn signals, etc. If you drive a car that does not, you are selfishly putting others at risk. Same with wearing a mask or face covering when in public, “so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone you love enough for that?”

2daisy 06-16-2020 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=Slapnut;1784984]Where did you get your information from. Ask most nurses and doctors who will tell you that breathing in and out your own nitrogen is bad for your body. The pH level isn't balanced and this will result in not enough oxygen to your brain. You're also breathing in and out your own bacteria which isn't good for your body. Go ahead and believe what you want but if we were meant to breathe through masks,we would have been born with them. Also don't force what you feel is right on other people[/QUOT
This is so selfish. You don't like to breath in your own bacteria, but is okay to spread to others. Shame on you!

Cybersprings 06-16-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1785207)
I keep my car in good condition and it has good brakes, turn signals, etc. If you drive a car that does not, you are selfishly putting others at risk. Same with wearing a mask or face covering when in public, “so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone you love enough for that?”

My mistake...I didn't know all accidents were caused by vehicles in known poor condition. I thought some of them happened as a result of driver mistakes, blown tires, road hazards, etc. If you do not use an automobile, there is a 100% chance that you will not accidentally kill someone with one. If you wear a mask, there is a percentage less than 100% that you will not infect someone with a virus that is~99% survivable. Which choice do you make? Have you been wearing a mask for years to ensure that you never gave someone the flu? Just curious

by the way, I wear a mask when I go into the store. I'm just sick and tired of the people who are attacking those who don't. And I always cough when I wear a mask, which then makes people look at me like I have the plague. I take of the mask the minute I walk out of the store and breathe the fresh air...no coughing.

nututv 06-16-2020 09:08 AM

A funny thread really. Everything from the sky is falling to no way. I'm on more of the no way side. Masks, lock-downs, groups being unlawful... (unless you're protesting of course). It's all just a social experiment in controlling.
'Mask shamers' (yeah, that's a term now)
I was told I was taking chances not wearing a mask a few weeks back by a lady that had to be 100 lb overweight. She nearly screamed at my reply, I'll bet she hasn't 'shamed' since. lol
I'm in my early 60's, I'm active, very fit and haven't so much as had a cold in years. In the past 15 days, I've paddled probably 100 miles and cycled probably 60. I would have done much more but the afternoon storms keep me in more than I'd like.
The obesity rate in America is at 40 percent. An estimated 300,000 deaths per year are caused by it. If you have a 'condition' due to your being too fat (diabetes etc.) that has put you at risk of getting the flu... hey wait a minute, you mean you've been ignoring your body for decades but now it's my responsibility to keep you healthy? haha No!
I can guarantee everyone here is going to die of something. You can sit there and put blame on someone else or just man up and put blame on yourself.
Life is like a sail. You can hang around that mast until you dry rot or you can go out in tatters, shredded from the winds. I prefer the windy ocean thank you.
And on a side note. I've handled far too many masks and blue gloves these past few months myself. From parking lots, to trails, beaches and even one probably a mile out in the gulf.

matandch 06-16-2020 09:17 AM

Just you wait and see!

am.zinger@aol.com 06-16-2020 09:21 AM

Dr. Fauci says no... video
YouTube

Scorpyo 06-16-2020 09:29 AM

Oh my god, I might get nitrogen narcosis if I breathe with a mask on. That damn dentist must be trying to kill me with the nitrogen he gave me. And that damn mask might stop a few droplets from getting through. If it won't stop 100% then I'm not wearing it. If I'm not 100% protected I'd rather not be protected at all! Interesting and intellectual arguments wouldn't you say?

Barefoot 06-16-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1785169)
The panic over this virus is ridiculous.

I don't think it's ridiculous at all. The virus can kill people.
That's why people wear masks in public, and practice social distancing.

am.zinger@aol.com 06-16-2020 09:32 AM

DON'T WEAR A MASK: Dr. Fauci from March 8th - YouTube

nututv 06-16-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by am.zinger@aol.com (Post 1785231)
Dr. Fauci says no... video
YouTube

And some other Doc says yes. lol

allsport 06-16-2020 09:36 AM

No, the research shows if both you and whoever you are around wear masks the likelihood of the virus to spread is very small. If you don't, it is very likely you will get the virus. Follow the science not the fantasy you see on TV.

allsport 06-16-2020 09:38 AM

Follow the latest science, any new disease has evolving information but the countries that wear masks have gotten rid of the virus. Fairly simple science.

Barefoot 06-16-2020 09:39 AM

I agree that masks help stop the spread of the coronavirus.

allsport 06-16-2020 09:40 AM

Stay out of my air space because you are reckless and that is your right. Me, I want to stick around a while longer.

nututv 06-16-2020 09:52 AM

There are so many great quotes regarding all of this. Here are a few of my favorites.

Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.

Sheep only need a single flock, but people need two: one to belong to and make them feel comfortable, and another to blame all of society’s problems on.

Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear.

Barefoot 06-16-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by am.zinger@aol.com (Post 1785243)

That video is more than three months old! The thinking on wearing masks has changed since March 8, 2020.

nututv 06-16-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1785266)
That video is more than three months old!
The thinking on wearing masks has changed since March 8.

It's an AOL account. He or she probably just received it. lol

Byte1 06-16-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 1785186)
Nearly 1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. Please tell me you do not drive or ride in an automobile so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone that you love enough for that?

Apparently, you either did not read my entire post or I did not simplify my post enough for others to understand.
In order to correlate your post with mine, you should have said something like "I suppose you make passengers wear a seatbelt to protect them in case of an accident." I have been doing the shopping for my spouse for the past three months, including in the beginning by ordering on line and picking it up curbside. I think I said that I only wear protective gear because I wish to lower the chances of infecting my spouse. I hardly see how "not driving" would relate. Of course, if I did not go out to shop there would be less chance of contracting the virus. But, according to your suggestion, it would not matter whether or not I left that house, right?

Barefoot 06-16-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1785253)
Follow the latest science, any new disease has evolving information. The countries that wear masks have gotten rid of the virus. Fairly simple science.

:agree:

TSO/ISPF 06-16-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 1785186)
Nearly 1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. Please tell me you do not drive or ride in an automobile so as not to accidentally kill someone...or do you not have someone that you love enough for that?

that's pretty OFF topic. So people who don't wear masks while in a public market or other public place don't wear seat belts?
Sound about right? Do unto others...

coffeebean 06-16-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf6969 (Post 1785010)
What is Dr. Fauci saying today? Wear a mask- No need to wear a mask- wear a mask- Not necessary to wear a mask?????????????????????????????? WHAT?????:ohdear:

The final word is WEAR A MASK. Take that to the bank!

scottvs1961 06-16-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1785285)
:agree:

While I am sure I will not be allowed to post a link since I am a newbie here. Hopefully you can copy and paste this into a browser.

This is a recent research article on the transmission of the COVID-19 virus.

Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19 | PNAS

coffeebean 06-16-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1785030)
Nothing like a good ole mask in 90 degree heat. Please. Common sense over fear.

Outdoors is not as critical for mask wearing so no worries about 90 degree heat. Indoors, where social distancing is not guaranteed, is when it is necessary for wearing a mask to help slow the spread of the virus.


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