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nututv 06-17-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1786072)
Just wondering.......will you don a mask when visiting a doctor in the office if the doctor mandates wearing a mask is required?

Of course I would, not to would be selfish and disrespectful. That said, if I knew of another place that didn't, I be making tracks for them.
I'm fit, I exercise and according to my doc, have the workings of someone in their late 30's and I'm 62 even though I've had a TIA and have sarcoidosis (it's a pulmonary disease btw). I can still do pull ups, push ups etc. I weigh what I did when I graduated high school in 74, less than I weighed when I got out of boot camp. Am I supposed to wear a mask because some obese person is afraid of what I don't have when they've been putting their heath at risk for decades? lol Nope! 300,000 people die annually because of obesity or from a condition related to it (and have been for quite some time now). Do you go around telling them they're fat and to stop eating so damn much? 40 percent of the population is obese. BTW, want to save energy? There's a great start, just think of what is required to get that many people, that fat.

I've answered your question now please answer mine. Would you go out of your way on a beach, parking lot, trail, in the ocean kayaking to pick up a mask, set of gloves that someone removed and threw out? I have, dozens upon dozens of times.

ColdNoMore 06-17-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1785711)
From a doctor:

"OK, here’s my rant about masks: I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!
(It is true that some people, with advanced lung diseases, may be so fragile that a mask could make their already-tenuous breathing more difficult. If your lungs are that bad, you probably shouldn’t be going out in public at the present time anyway; the consequences if you are exposed to Covid-19 would likely be devastating.)

“But”, you ask, “can’t viruses go right through the mask, because they are so small?” (“Masks keep viruses out just as well as a chain link fence keeps mosquitoes out,” some tell us.) It is true that individual virus particles can pass through the pores of a mask; however, viruses don’t move on their own. They do not fly across the room like a mosquito, wiggle through your mask like a worm, or fly up your nose like a gnat. The virus is essentially nothing more than a tiny blob of genetic material. Covid-19 travels in a CARRIER – the carrier is a fluid droplet- fluid droplets that you expel when you cough, sneeze, sing, laugh, talk or simply exhale. Most of your fluid droplets will be stopped from entering the air in the room if you are wearing a mask. Wearing a mask is a very efficient way to protect others if you are carrying the virus (even if you don’t know that you are infected). In addition, if someone else’s fluid droplets happen to land on your mask, many of them will not pass through. This gives the wearer some additional protection, too. But, the main reason to wear a mask is to PROTECT OTHERS. Even if you don’t care about yourself, wear your mask to protect your neighbors, co-workers and friends!

A mask is certainly not 100% protective. However, it appears that the severity of Covid-19 infection is at least partially “dose-dependent.” In other words, the more virus particles that enter your body, the sicker you are likely to become. Why not decrease that volume if you can? “What have you got to lose?!”

“But doesn’t a requirement or a request to wear a mask violate my constitutional rights?” You’re also not allowed to go into the grocery store if you are not wearing pants. You can’t yell “fire” in the Produce Department. You’re not allowed to urinate on the floor in the Frozen Food Section. Do you object to those restrictions? Rules, established for the common good, are component of a civilized society.

“But aren’t masks uncomfortable?” Some would say that underwear or shoes can be uncomfortable, but we still wear them. (Actually, being on a ventilator is pretty darned uncomfortable, too!) Are masks really so bad that you can’t tolerate them, even if they will help keep others healthy?

“But won’t people think I’m a snowflake or a wimp if I wear a mask?” I hope you have enough self-confidence to overcome that.

“But won’t I look stupid if I wear a mask?” I’ve decided not to dignify that question with an answer!! ������

“But I never get sick; I’m not worried.” Well, then, wear a mask for the sake of the rest of us who are not so perfect!

There is good evidence that masks make a real difference in diminishing the transmission of Covid-19. Please, for the sake of others (and for the sake of yourself), wear your mask when in public. It won’t kill you!

P.S. - And, by the way, please be sure that BOTH your nose and mouth are covered!"


:bigbow:...:bigbow:...:bigbow:


I have to honestly admit though...my mind is slowly being changed.

While I will still minimize my interaction with others, always wear a mask in public and think everyone should also do so, the anti-mask/anti-science faction...does have a point though.

If they want to thin their own herd, without endangering others...shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

nututv 06-17-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1786160)
If they want to thin their own herd, without endangering others...shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

It's called 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness'. It was written somewhere once. If you want to smoke, smoke. If you want to drink, drink. If you want to be fat, eat. You want to jump off a bridge, jump. etc etc.
Just don't blow the smoke on someone that doesn't, force a bottle down the next guy, force feed another or push the person off that's leaning over the rail.

ColdNoMore 06-17-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786182)
It's called 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness'. It was written somewhere once. If you want to smoke, smoke. If you want to drink, drink. If you want to be fat, eat. You want to jump off a bridge, jump. etc etc.
Just don't blow the smoke on someone that doesn't, force a bottle down the next guy, force feed another or push the person off that's leaning over the rail.

Which, in essence, is exactly...what I said. :oops:

Velvet 06-17-2020 01:36 PM

Honolulu Star Advertiser today:

China also limited other travel around the capital, keying in on hot spots. Beijing had essentially eradicated local transmissions until recent days, with 137 new cases since last week.

On Wednesday, the city of 20 million raised its threat level from 3 to 2, canceling classes, suspending reopenings and strengthening requirements for social distancing. China had relaxed many lockdown controls after the Communist Party declared victory over the virus in March.

....

We are dealing with a very, very contagious disease.

nututv 06-17-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1786205)
Which, in essence, is exactly...what I said. :oops:

And I was agreeing. BTW, in a previous post I asked you the following.
'Would you go out of your way on a beach, parking lot, trail, in the ocean kayaking to pick up a mask, set of gloves that someone removed and threw out?'

ColdNoMore 06-17-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786216)
And I was agreeing. BTW, in a previous post I asked you the following.
'Would you go out of your way on a beach, parking lot, trail, in the ocean kayaking to pick up a mask, set of gloves that someone removed and threw out?'


Depending on how far away and if I had a method to do so, without touching them...probably yes.

I often go out out of my way on the golf course and other places...to pick up trash.

Help me out though, what does that question...have to do with the subject of the thread?
:confused:

regas56 06-17-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1786109)
Hmmm. No masks in the hospital? Those stays were in the last 2 or 3 months? And rubbed shoulders with a 1000 people at Walmart? A little hyperbole to make a point I guess. With all you’ve been through it seems to me wearing a mask to protect others from similar suffering would be a given for you. And let’s be honest, it is nothing like wearing a blanket. Little kids can handle wearing them for hours, I think us adult men and women could too.

Yes it was in the last 2 months.. NO..zero hyperbole. Yes.. 980 and all counted at a time in our Walmart.. I wear a mask on my job during the week (drywall) and YES most I see wearing a mask it's a joke the way they wear it, baggy and hanging off so it's just a fashion statement..If you're retired and in the top 20% for God Sake STAY HOME and beat the odds but I do not believe that paper shield on your face is going to extend your life any longer than SOCIAL DISTANCING but it will give you a false sense of security and for proof just look at all the people tugging, pulling and readjusting them CONSTANTLY with their hands..

Lindsyburnsy 06-17-2020 03:18 PM

When people talk, sing, sneeze, they often spit or spray and a mask will protect you from those droplets that can carry the virus. What is it about not wanting to wear a mask?

nututv 06-17-2020 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1786262)

Depending on how far away and if I had a method to do so, without touching them...probably yes.

I often go out out of my way on the golf course and other places...to pick up trash.

Help me out though, what does that question...have to do with the subject of the thread?
:confused:

I'll try and keep it short. I have little faith in humans. They not only screw up everything for other humans but they take everything else down the drain with them, Mother Nature. Now Mother Nature I have an overwhelming amount of faith in, and empathy for.
I'd lie awake at night knowing that I passed by a glove that was going to end up in a turtles mouth killing it.
Masks and medical gloves (which I wear neither of) I'm told I should wear to help others, yet so many of the others just throw them out like a cigarette butt. Who is responsible for cleaning up the supposed 'bio hazard' mess?
I mean I'm being told I'm putting others at risk not wearing them, yet I'm forced to clean up after these same people picking up their used masks and gloves. I picked up one in Brownwood just last week.
It was more a curiosity thing. I'm just so frustrated at the average humans lack of caring.

Astron 06-17-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784906)
No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

Could you please give us your qualifications to make such a clinical judgement that appears at odds with the findings of numerous peer reviewed research articles such as the one referenced by the OP? Thank you.

ColdNoMore 06-17-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786312)
I'll try and keep it short. I have little faith in humans. They not only screw up everything for other humans but they take everything else down the drain with them, Mother Nature. Now Mother Nature I have an overwhelming amount of faith in, and empathy for.
I'd lie awake at night knowing that I passed by a glove that was going to end up in a turtles mouth killing it.
Masks and medical gloves (which I wear neither of) I'm told I should wear to help others, yet so many of the others just throw them out like a cigarette butt. Who is responsible for cleaning up the supposed 'bio hazard' mess?
I mean I'm being told I'm putting others at risk not wearing them, yet I'm forced to clean up after these same people picking up their used masks and gloves. I picked up one in Brownwood just last week.
It was more a curiosity thing. I'm just so frustrated at the average humans lack of caring.


On that...we totally agree!
:thumbup:

coffeebean 06-17-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786125)
Of course I would, not to would be selfish and disrespectful. That said, if I knew of another place that didn't, I be making tracks for them.
I'm fit, I exercise and according to my doc, have the workings of someone in their late 30's and I'm 62 even though I've had a TIA and have sarcoidosis (it's a pulmonary disease btw). I can still do pull ups, push ups etc. I weigh what I did when I graduated high school in 74, less than I weighed when I got out of boot camp. Am I supposed to wear a mask because some obese person is afraid of what I don't have when they've been putting their heath at risk for decades? lol Nope! 300,000 people die annually because of obesity or from a condition related to it (and have been for quite some time now). Do you go around telling them they're fat and to stop eating so damn much? 40 percent of the population is obese. BTW, want to save energy? There's a great start, just think of what is required to get that many people, that fat.

I've answered your question now please answer mine. Would you go out of your way on a beach, parking lot, trail, in the ocean kayaking to pick up a mask, set of gloves that someone removed and threw out? I have, dozens upon dozens of times.

Regarding obesity.......last I checked someone's obesity was not contagious and potentially fatal to others. That was not a good analogy at all, IMHO.

Picking up discarded masks and gloves? No, I would not do that. It is not my job. Someone should be responsible to clean up after the people who litter. But......good for you for cleaning up after those inconsiderate folks.I thank you.

coffeebean 06-17-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1786160)
:bigbow:...:bigbow:...:bigbow:


I have to honestly admit though...my mind is slowly being changed.

While I will still minimize my interaction with others, always wear a mask in public and think everyone should also do so, the anti-mask/anti-science faction...does have a point though.

If they want to thin their own herd, without endangering others...shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

Is there such a thing as "herd selection"? How would that work? Asking for a friend.

coffeebean 06-17-2020 07:05 PM

Deleted. Double post.

coffeebean 06-17-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786216)
And I was agreeing. BTW, in a previous post I asked you the following.
'Would you go out of your way on a beach, parking lot, trail, in the ocean kayaking to pick up a mask, set of gloves that someone removed and threw out?'

It wasn't ColdNoMore that you asked that question. It was me, coffeebean. I have already replied to the question in a previous post.

Dayeight99 06-17-2020 07:15 PM

Then wear it everyday for the rest of your life because there’s always “something going around”. Seasonal flu, colds, etc. They’re all contagious. Please, never take it off or you’re a hypocrite.

ALadysMom 06-17-2020 08:22 PM

Robbie: you are awesome.
Great rant.

ALadysMom 06-17-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1785717)
Wearing a contaminated mask is detrimental to the wearer but is still very beneficial to others around the wearer. I know that sounds very selfish but it is true. It is very easy to keep a fabric mask not contaminated for the wearer. Just fold it up so the inside does not touch anything other than your nose and mouth. Do not touch the inside of the mask with your hands and do not allow any surface to brush against the inside of the mask. I fold my mask up in this safe manner and place it in a plastic snack bag and keep it in my purse. I do wash my cloth masks every time I do the laundry. This is so easy to do and keeps the mask wearer safe from contaminants other than their own droplets.

I appreciate your admission but there are more than just a few loopholes 😷 (get it? LOL) in your sanitization procedure. Sorry. Not touching the inside is a great attempt at cleanliness but the world is a huge microbial soup and your damp mask inside that plastic bag in Floridian heat is a growth vector for mold, bacteria and, yes, viruses. The chemical residues of soap, fabric softener, etc. from the laundry and the dyes, microfibers and other things from the fabric are being inhaled with every breath you take. There are good reasons why medical masks are sterile, made from specialty paper and single use/disposable.

Staying home is so relaxing by comparison.

nututv 06-17-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1786426)
Regarding obesity.......last I checked someone's obesity was not contagious and potentially fatal to others. That was not a good analogy at all, IMHO.
Picking up discarded masks and gloves? No, I would not do that. It is not my job. Someone should be responsible to clean up after the people who litter. But......good for you for cleaning up after those inconsiderate folks.I thank you.

Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed. I heard that here from a TOTV PHD/MD/BS lol. Remove 300,000 annually from ER's and hospitals in general and you've removed a major headache. And I agree it isn't contagious but have you ever seen a skinny kid who had obese parents? Some of the biggest kids I taught in scouts had mom's and dad's that were seriously wide. It runs in families. McDonald genes we called them.
Let's see, 40% of the population is obese. You don't think that to produce what is required to create and sustain all that doesn't create millions of tons of 'stuff' that's potentially fatal to others.

It's not my job! That is by far, the saddest thing I can remember reading. It sure the heck is, it's everyone's job. Do you have kids or grand kids? Better show them all the wildlife you can while you can. We're killing them with cruelty and pollution faster than the poor animals can multiply.
Then I guess it's my job. I've seen this first hand, it's repulsive.
This whale had more than 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach when it died.

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

ALadysMom 06-17-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786536)
Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed. I heard that here from a TOTV PHD/MD/BS lol. Remove 300,000 annually from ER's and hospitals in general and you've removed a major headache. And I agree it isn't contagious but have you ever seen a skinny kid who had obese parents? Some of the biggest kids I taught in scouts had mom's and dad's that were seriously wide. It runs in families. McDonald genes we called them.
Let's see, 40% of the population is obese. You don't think that to produce what is required to create and sustain all that doesn't create millions of tons of 'stuff' that's potentially fatal to others.

It's not my job! That is by far, the saddest thing I can remember reading. It sure the heck is, it's everyone's job. Do you have kids or grand kids? Better show them all the wildlife you can while you can. We're killing them with cruelty and pollution faster than the poor animals can multiply.
Then I guess it's my job. I've seen this first hand, it's repulsive.
This whale had more than 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach when it died.

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Wow. Just wow.

sallybowron 06-17-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1784906)
No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

I was told that using a very thin layer of chiffon inside your mask will prevent the droplets from going through a mask.

coffeebean 06-18-2020 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1786524)
I appreciate your admission but there are more than just a few loopholes 😷 (get it? LOL) in your sanitization procedure. Sorry. Not touching the inside is a great attempt at cleanliness but the world is a huge microbial soup and your damp mask inside that plastic bag in Floridian heat is a growth vector for mold, bacteria and, yes, viruses. The chemical residues of soap, fabric softener, etc. from the laundry and the dyes, microfibers and other things from the fabric are being inhaled with every breath you take. There are good reasons why medical masks are sterile, made from specialty paper and single use/disposable.

Staying home is so relaxing by comparison.

So far, I haven't harmed myself by wearing my cloth mask more than once. I will make sure that it is laundered frequently.

coffeebean 06-18-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1786449)
Then wear it everyday for the rest of your life because there’s always “something going around”. Seasonal flu, colds, etc. They’re all contagious. Please, never take it off or you’re a hypocrite.

Now that is just silly. Of course there will come a time when we can all take off our masks and feel safe from Covid-19. That time will come when there is a safe successful vaccine and/or there is a safe reliable effective treatment.

In the meantime, I'll continue to wear my mask indoors when social distancing is not guaranteed. Can't wait to go maskless all the time like the old days and not have to worry about this pesky virus out there.

coffeebean 06-18-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786536)
Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed. I heard that here from a TOTV PHD/MD/BS lol. Remove 300,000 annually from ER's and hospitals in general and you've removed a major headache. And I agree it isn't contagious but have you ever seen a skinny kid who had obese parents? Some of the biggest kids I taught in scouts had mom's and dad's that were seriously wide. It runs in families. McDonald genes we called them.
Let's see, 40% of the population is obese. You don't think that to produce what is required to create and sustain all that doesn't create millions of tons of 'stuff' that's potentially fatal to others.

It's not my job! That is by far, the saddest thing I can remember reading. It sure the heck is, it's everyone's job. Do you have kids or grand kids? Better show them all the wildlife you can while you can. We're killing them with cruelty and pollution faster than the poor animals can multiply.
Then I guess it's my job. I've seen this first hand, it's repulsive.
This whale had more than 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach when it died.

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Sorry to disagree with you but, it isn't my job to pick up items that may be contaminated with the virus.

I have, however, prior to this coronavirus pandemic, walked around our neighborhood in NJ with a large trash bag and picked up all sorts of litter and never gave it a second thought. I enjoyed it in fact, especially how nice the area looked when we were done. My husband and I used to do that together. We always wore gloves when we did our "clean up trash" walks. Having said that, I'm not going to do that now in this time of a pandemic.

coffeebean 06-18-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1786548)
I was told that using a very thin layer of chiffon inside your mask will prevent the droplets from going through a mask.

I tested a single layer of a Bounty paper towel by spritzing it with water in front of my bathroom mirror. I've tried that "experiment" also using a single layer of T-shirt material. The mirror stayed absolutely dry. I purchased cloth masks online and did this same test. No droplets got through the double layer of fabric to the mirror. I feel pretty good that I'm keeping my droplets contained from anyone around me when I'm indoors and social distancing can not be guaranteed.

I don't think these masks protect me much at all but that is not the reason for wearing home made masks.

Barefoot 06-18-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786536)
Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed ... Snipped .... Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise.

COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that? Talk to the families of people who have died.

Altavia 06-18-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1786889)

I don't think these masks protect me much at all but that is not the reason for wearing home made masks.

I would not underestimate the level of protection, every little bit helps reduce risk..

There was a Missouri hair salon where the stylists and all of their clients wore face masks. Two hairstylists with coronavirus ended up not infecting any of their 140 clients.
One stylist treated 84 clients and the other worked with 56, and six co-workers were also exposed. Forty-six of them pursued testing and all tested negative, while the rest were quarantined for a 14-day period, according to the health department.

Additionally, there were no cases of coronavirus out of the more than 400 other people who were in the Great Clips location during the shifts by the two affected stylist.

Missouri Great Clips hairstylists with coronavirus did not infect 140 clients

Altavia 06-18-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1786536)
Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Maybe people unwilling to help reduce the risks for others should not consume hospital resources if they become infected...

ColdNoMore 06-18-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1786933)
COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that?
Talk to the families of people who have died
.

I agree. :(

nututv 06-18-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1786933)
COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that? Talk to the families of people who have died.

I'm a member of a family who has had someone pass away. From my newborn son 30 years ago to my 94 year old father last year. I myself have been on the brink twice.
If I had the choice of clearing out all mankind for the sake of all Mother Nature, we'd all be gone and she and her millions of species would thrive without our greedy and inconsiderate 1. Sorry, just my opinion.
'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few' is an arbitrary assertion and a restatement of the baseless moral theory known as utilitarianism, which asserts that each individual should act to serve the greatest good for the greatest number.
Now back to the mask thread I guess.

cleanwater 06-18-2020 05:40 PM

Played Cane garden golf today. Had to pay inside. Sign on door says Masks are recommended. I wore mine. No one else did. I was especially unhappy none of the staff wore masks. TERRIBLE EXAMPLE to set. Where is the golf mgmt that allows their staff to flaunt their recommendations? When Covid arrives here again we’ll be hit hard if basic precautions are not used.

nututv 06-18-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cleanwater (Post 1787275)
mgmt that allows their staff to flaunt their recommendations?

Because is a recommendation, not mandatory attire. If I had a choice, I wouldn't have been wearing one. If it bothered you that much, you should not have been there IMO.

coffeebean 06-20-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1786986)
I would not underestimate the level of protection, every little bit helps reduce risk..

There was a Missouri hair salon where the stylists and all of their clients wore face masks. Two hairstylists with coronavirus ended up not infecting any of their 140 clients.
One stylist treated 84 clients and the other worked with 56, and six co-workers were also exposed. Forty-six of them pursued testing and all tested negative, while the rest were quarantined for a 14-day period, according to the health department.

Additionally, there were no cases of coronavirus out of the more than 400 other people who were in the Great Clips location during the shifts by the two affected stylist.

Missouri Great Clips hairstylists with coronavirus did not infect 140 clients

This is certainly a plus for wearing home made masks. Watching those folks in Tulsa (waiting for the rally) being interviewed and they are saying they are not worried at all about getting the virus and they will not wear masks. These people honestly believe what they are saying. It baffles me how they can deny a story such as the one you posted. Masks do slow the spread of this virus but some folks out there will not believe the evidence.

nututv 06-20-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1788288)
Masks do slow the spread of this virus but some folks out there will not believe the evidence.

Maybe some folks are healthy enough they aren't worried if they get it or not? Like me.
My grandfather died of the flu in the late eighties. I don't recall seeing anyone wearing masks then.

ALadysMom 06-20-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1785744)
You bring up extremely valid points. I'm the first one to say I'm very disappointed in our current administration and the experts who told us all not to wear masks unless we were sick or caring for someone who was sick with Covid. That was wrong on every level and they have since come "clean" with their reasons for being deceitful to the American people. I don't buy their excuses, AT ALL.

Once we got the recommendation from the experts and the CDC that wearing masks can help slow the spread of this dreadful virus, the American people sprung into action. We were requested not to stockpile PPE that our health care professionals needed to care for our sick. So what did we do? Home made face coverings were being made at an accelerated rate. Mask instructional videos were exploding on YouTube. Americans answered the call just like it was a war effort.

We did the right thing and left the available PPE for the front line workers. We are covering our faces with our home made masks and I'm so proud of the effort put forth by those Americans who choose to help mitigate this virus. Now, I'm seeing masks everywhere in retail stores and pharmacies so they are now readily available to the public.......just like toilet paper. Thank goodness!

I share your pride & am grateful for your thoughtful reply.

ALadysMom 06-20-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1788288)
This is certainly a plus for wearing home made masks. Watching those folks in Tulsa (waiting for the rally) being interviewed and they are saying they are not worried at all about getting the virus and they will not wear masks. These people honestly believe what they are saying. It baffles me how they can deny a story such as the one you posted. Masks do slow the spread of this virus but some folks out there will not believe the evidence.

All of the people I have seen in OK are outside, socially distanced (from those they don’t live with) and are happily & bravely practicing their Constitutionally-protected rights.

The first Amendment doesn’t say “except when others think you shouldn’t” because there are always those who think you shouldn’t.

nututv 06-20-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1788311)
The first Amendment doesn’t say “except when others think you shouldn’t” because there are always those who think you shouldn’t.

It sure does. Just before the sentence about having guns in the next Amendment.

ALadysMom 06-20-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1786278)
When people talk, sing, sneeze, they often spit or spray and a mask will protect you from those droplets that can carry the virus. What is it about not wanting to wear a mask?

I’d be a lot happier if everyone would wear a brand new, sterile, single-use N-95 (or better) medical-grade mask since those have actual science & an engineered design.

ALadysMom 06-20-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1788314)
It sure does. Just before the sentence about having guns in the next Amendment.



First Amendment:

“Congress shall make no law
respecting

an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;

or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”


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