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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1051746)

And now we can eat eggs again. If you are old enough you can remember when milk was bad for you, then it wasn't just not bad, it was good for you. Now we can have red wine and dark chocolate and drink coffee. The moral to this story: eat eggs and dark chocolate and drink milk, wine and coffee. Before they change their minds again.

It may not be the same "they" changing their minds. Various groups do different studies and it all depends on what a particular group is looking for at the time. For example, I believe it's a relatively recent discovery that animal protein promotes cancer. Yes, a person can eat animal protein for several decades without getting cancer, just as a person can smoke cigarettes for several decades without getting lung disease. The true issue is one of risk. How can we lower our risk for getting degenerative diseases?

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1052144)

we have expressed more than enough our desire not to have someone's obsession constantly shoved in front of us.

civility aside, wait 1 minute, nothing was shoved in your face by VPL, you read threads by choice.

You can also set anyone to ignore

National Institutes of Health Physicians Pushing a Plant-Based Diet

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1052148)

civility aside, wait 1 minute, nothing was shoved in your face by VPL, you read threads by choice...

With or without choice, your assessment is definitely a matter of opinion.

Just because one person does shove it in your face, doesn't mean you may not have an interest in the thread's topic...more than one person posts in these threads.

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1050624)

The author of The China Study, who studied nutrition nearly all of his life, referred to veganism as "a plant based diet". I never heard the phrase "plant only" diet before this thread.

I doubt that very many people will take the time to calculate whether or not they are getting 50% of their calories from plants. Non-starchy plants are very low in calories. MyPlate, which is used as an acceptable example, has 3/4 of the plate devoted to vegetables and grains(1/2 vegetables plus 1/4 grains). 1/4 of the plate is reserved for "lean protein" but the calories are allowed to go as high as 49%? That doesn't seem to make sense. Where did you get the information "50% of calories from vegetables"?

What's wrong with calling it what it is, a "omnivore diet"?

Notice that nothing was said about preventing cancer and cancer is the second leading cause of death. The vegan diet, as presented by Dr. Colin Campbell, includes a cancer prevention strategy as well as a prevention strategy for all the other degenerative diseases.

Unfortunately, in today's world people are changing the meaning of words in order to suit their purposes. The word based in this context does not mean that a diet is entirely of plants. Jazz based music may contain elements of classical.

Petroleum based products have other substances mixed in.

It doesn't matter what the author of The China Study says. The words are plain English. A plant based diet means that most of the food in the diet comes from plants. It doesn't mean a vegan diet which is a plant only diet.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1052160)

I'm in too!! And I think we should eat chocolate and drink wine to celebrate. :)

I am in for eating chocolate and drinking wine and no talking about damn man eating plants!!

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1052159)

Thank you, PB.